• intensely_human@lemm.ee
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      You don’t see the conflict?

      Here it’s a case of hypocrisy, as it’s a conflict between berating someone else for some behavior, and engaging in it ourselves.

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        You’re making a false equivalence. Musk is scared about losing more of his money. People here seemingly don’t like Meta and don’t want it to infest lemmy. Those aren’t even close to being the same.

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          Or, Musk’s actions could be in line with protecting free speech. I mean, that’s the fear we have of Meta here: that it will destroy this space and silence voices.

          So if (a) Musk claims he’s protecting free speech, and then (b) takes actions consistent with that view, then there’s no opening to make an argument of the form “Must claims X but does Y”, when Y could be interpreted as a manifestation of goal X.

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            I thought the law suit was centered around the fact that Twitter shit canned a bunch of programmers, and meta picked them up to make threads. So elon is claiming intellectual property theft.

            At no point did they mention that they were trying to save free speech. That wouldn’t make sense.

            I would hope elon loses this suit. You can’t force an employee you fired into a non disclosure agreement and then just not pay them wile locking them out of their field of work for 10 years.

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              Yeah I don’t think he has a case either. I’m talking about the perceived motivations when his actions are consistent with his stated motivations (for running twitter, the ones mentioned in the comment thread I responded to), as evidenced by our own shared pairing of stated motivations and actions.

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              Well what I said was:

              • Musk claimed to be working to protect free speech
              • Musk’s actions are consistent with that goal
              • If fighting Meta isn’t consistent with that goal, then why are we fighting Meta?
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                No they aren’t? He’s trying to save himself from losing billions more dollars. It has nothing to do with free speech. As the other poster stated, it’s about perceived IP theft.

                Assuming ‘we’ is lemmy, Musks motivation is complete different, aka money. You restating the point you tried to make doesn’t give it any more credence.

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                  Did you notice the phrase “is consistent with”?

                  How do you suppose that differs in meaning from a phrase like “allows us to conclude that”?

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                    But his actions aren’t consistent with anything having to do with protecting freedom of speech. So you saying “is consistent with” is irrelevant.