Yeah, but in federated social media you can just pack up and set up a new instance.
You won’t ever need to leave the whole thing behind to disconnect from corporate BS.
That’s why I started my own instance, I got the freedom to pick and choose what instances I allow, so if any corporation decides to join the fediverse I don’t have to wait for the admin to defedederate.
Just make sure if you’re using it as a personal instance to make it so no one but the admin can make communities and restrict your sign ups so your instance can’t get taken over by nutjobs.
My concerns the product advertisers attempting to sneak in, bragging or something. It felt rampant on Reddit, so it’s probably left me wary. 😣
Double edge sword. “This guy is shilling” reports go rampant .
Hopefully, the Reddit bot trackers peeps will move to lemmy, and lend us their wisdom.
I learnt so many ways realise a poster or commenter was a bit from those peeps. Amazing MVPs!
And folks like kitboga taught me that spammers/scammers generally stick to a script.It’s gonna be an arms race! Hopefully we win!
And if that happens, you can bet your ass there will one day be instance-wide ad-block that auto-blocks users/instances known for posting ads.
If that becomes a thing, there will be instances that explicitly filter it out.
The problem is its hard to tell what’s an ad and what’s not. Sometimes people ARE just enthusiastic about a product they found and want to share it.
It’s easier when it’s a large company like Burger King or something; like most people won’t just suddenly start raving about this great new burger place they found called Burger King. It’s different for more obscure companies. It could be actual Lemmy users who are just passionate or it could be company employees trying to sneak advertisements into site discussions.
I don’t think there’s any AI or other tools that could distinguish the two.
Congratulations, you’ve been defederated. Please do not resist.
I really hope it works out as smoothly as this, it feels like advertising sneaks it’s way in somehow though. 😣
I haven’t seen any ads thus far on lemmy and it’s pretty great.
I’m more worried about the advertisers sneaking in through “bragging”, like Reddit saw. 😣
Bragging? I’m not familiar with this. What does that mean in terms of advertising?
It’s a form of guerrilla advertising where they play on FOMO and try to make people jealous of someone who is “loving” the product. It’s one of the harder forms of shilling to detect because it can sound just like a regular person who actually does enjoy a specific product.
So all the Sync posts aren’t ads in disguise?
I don’t know what a sync post is either man haha
Yeah that’s what I was thinking. I haven’t seen a pop up or a banner ad; but I’ve seen plenty of ads in the form of a creator trying to sell their creation and other shill stuff. Not nearly as often as on Reddit, but it’s not something you can escape from on social media.
I’m fine with that. I just don’t want to be reminded that hellofresh exists every five minutes.
My man, have you met our lord and saviour hypnotoad?
⚡️😵💫⚡️
It’s not and I’m Lovin’ It. The Fediverse I mean. Want to defederate from corporate ads? Just Do It. Have It Your Way and Make Every Second Count.
Really, you just need to Think Different.
This is the most beautifully crafted comment I’ve read all day. Bravo!
Where is c/angryupvote
I hate the word normie (ususally used by incels and the like)
ok normie
It’s a nickname. His actual name is Normald
ok normie
controversial opinion; I think lots of companies should host lemmy instances for their own support forums.
I think that news organisations should create their own distribution instances. The BBC has started to set up their own Mastodon server. I would definitely prefer to be able to create my own news feed, direct from source, and selected for greater criteria than how many rage clicks a headline is likely to garner.
Not controversial at all.
There are considerations.
Corporate instances affecting public opinion.
Corporate opinion silencing/moderating public opinion.
All that, and user moderation as well.A company may not like legitimate dissenters, but it might be in the public interest…
Unmoderated, it might turn into a cesspool.
So, who moderates it? AI/AutoMod? And how? What algo? Does that retroactively apply on updates?This happens on actual company forums. Yes.
So, we need 2 lemmy communities per company? Their one, and a public one? What if the public one is being unfair? Who knows about that?It’s tough!
Anything that gains too much steam and mainstream attention is ripe for corporate takeover/infiltration. Federation should hopefully keep them at bay for a while.
This is called enshittification, and happens to all platforms.
I felt kinda bad for the people who were here when I joined two months ago. They had their own little community which would get quickly overrun by ex redditors. I wasn’t sure if I was a refugee or a colonizer.
If those people want their own isolated communities, those exist elsewhere. You join the fediverse because you expect it to grow and network.
I feel like it’s like discovering a hidden place at a lake that’s really beautiful. You can’t really claim it as exclusively your’s but would still very much prefer it if no one else went there, as selfish as that might be
To be fair they could create a server and just not Federate with anyone? Or federate selectively?
Yeah, I actually like this concept. The fediverse has the power to be much larger, but it doesn’t have to be for any group that wants to keep things small.
I also kind of like how the fediverse has space for just the worst, most bigoted folks to fuck around and find out here. If they run away to rumble or truth social or whatever alternative they’re trying this week, they can stay in their little bubbles and pretend they’re the real popular voices, at least until it inevitably implodes.
In the fediverse, they can see the federation graphs, they can read the defederation announcements, and they can start to see exactly where they stand in popular opinion. I think that’s got to have an effect on them long term. The paid shills can try to deny reality from their followers, but it’s harder.
Corporations are coming, it’s inevitable, but at least this time we won’t have to deplatform ourselves to have a sensible discussion.
Great. Now I’m worried I’m a normie and not the “Manifest Destiny” nerd I have been trying to be.
/s
Seriously though, from the comments, it’s seems like the corporate rats gaining ground in places that are federated is going to be a lot harder, and more user resilient.
I read a comment earlier somewhere that at least they hadn’t seen anyone use /s yet.
…yet.
As soon as a space is big and diverse enough that you stop recognising usernames or even instances, you’ve got to signal intent. It’s unavoidable. Only alternative is to give shelter to shitheads, who say the same things, but mean them.
I wouldn’t mind some of the “normies” joining. I’m a programmer too, and while the programmer/Linux jokes get a little bit of a chuckle out of me I wouldn’t mind some other stuff.
What’s a normie? I don’t think I have seen one yet. /j
Can we stop the gatekeeping and that normie bs, plz ffs
No
Different version:
Only nerds with the worst opinions migrate
Only nerds with the worst opinions migrate
Yes i wouldnt like to be linked to someone that whants costanza to step on them.
You clearly have no taste.
