Damn I feel bad for the parents
They chose to bring the baby on the plane.
No shit? That doesn’t somehow stop my sympathy
30 years ago, when I was a child, my father was in the US Army. Because of that, we relocated all over the country every two years or so. We did NOT have the choice of whether or not to bring my baby brother onto the plane we couldn’t even afford ourselves because the move was paid for by the Army. They say jump, you say “how high?”.
You don’t know every situation. And after 41 years of life, I don’t pretend to know what someone else’s situation is either. So I generally let dumb shit like this slide now. It’s not important enough to get worked up over.
Why? They chose a life of hell.
Because while a baby on a plane might be annoying to other passengers, they’re getting the worst of it and the contempt from others on top of that. Must be fun
I have a dysfunctional baby. We took an 8 month old on a plane to Japan because of a family tragedy and she freaking got excited when we hit turbulence and when we landed. Five other babies lost their shit but my kids all giggling.
Actually, she also lost her shit in a literal way, Jesus fucking Christ the amount of poop that came out after the pressure change or someone. Ain’t nobody talks about that but all babies shit their pants at landing— pretty sure.
Get her a dirt bike and a ramp. You may have a future stunt woman on your hands.
Please don’t fly with your kids, especially babies, and if you do, please for the love of all that might be holy, don’t do it in business and first class!
If you have to fly business with the rest of the poors that can’t afford a private jet, you don’t get to complain.
I’m going to go with the very opposite opinion. Don’t fly with your kids, especially babies, but if you do, do it ONLY in business and first class. Working class people have enough shit without having to deal with your baby.
Uh, we’re working class people who are paying to avoid your baby.
Rich people deserve to suffer. Always fly first class with your kids and give them caffeine pills before the flight.
Based and energy pilled.
People in business class or first class are almost never rich. Sky mile programs, travel credit card point programs, gaming point relationships between airlines and affiliates can make business and first quite affordable. And for when it can’t be affordable, if someone is paying for it, it’s not usually for luxury. I try to always send my wife at least business class so she is treated MUCH more as a human being than she normally has been in coach, as she is a minority and disabled. Rich people charter planes or own them. Those in business class are usually people who just plan ahead better than you. And if you’re jealous of that, then you’re a jealous piece of something.
Please don’t leave your house, and if you do, please for the love that might be holy don’t do it in areas actually inhabited by people.
Please tell that to parents who can’t keep their kids polite in public. Being a child is not an excuse to be a monster.
don’t do it in business and first class!
Lol. If you’re wasting those sums of money to fly, I hope you do get noisy kids right next to you.
Here are some reasons for business class and first class:
- Certainly treated better by staff when flights are delayed or cancelled - They took excellent care of my wife and her food and lodging needs when her flight was disrupted by a volcanic eruption at her intended destination.
- The airline lounge - food, drinks and comfortable places to wait while stuck at airports
- More and heavier checked bag allowance - Super important if bringing things to family
- Laying down on long international flights to sleep
- Most importantly, if you are a person of colour or disabled, the staff treat you a hell of a lot better - Shouldn’t have to pay more to be treated like a human being, but on a lot of airlines, you do
So it’s not a waste, especially when my wife is flying alone 7600km, 10,500km, and even 11,700km as both a person of colour and a disabled person to deal with family tragedies. For you to want to screw with people for that… Yeah, don’t care for you.
There’s plenty of people who have to do all of that and don’t have crazy amounts of money to blast on a plane ticket. My heart is not bleeding. And all this over someone bringing a child on a plane.
Children are usually fine. Let me be more specific. Babies. Babies are often a problem on flights. Often it’s because of the cabin pressure hurting their ears because of their under developed eustachian tubes. All babies? no. But a lot of them. Learn how to help manage the child’s ear pain if you must bring them. Otherwise, you’re just being mean to your baby.
As for your plenty of people / heart not bleeding comment. Nice to meet you, Karen.
What should people do exactly? FedEx their kids?
Yes, PSA bring teething toys and gum if your child is old enough to help equalize their ear pressure that’s fine, but kids are people too and they have a right to travel with their parents. The flying experience is aggressively uncomfortable and kids complaining isn’t even the half of it.
No. Just don’t go. You chose to raise a child, part of that includes not dragging them where they don’t belong until they are old grown enough to behave. If you have to go, arrange care for the child while you are gone if they aren’t mature enough yet. Bringing a baby on a plane says, “I refuse to pay money to take responsibility for my choosing to have a child, so I’ll bring it with me and put that burden on everyone trapped with me on a plane.” Gee thanks.
Could you just not go instead?
Thanks for explaining to everybody why you deserve to be treated better than everyone else because you have more money.
I don’t. Paycheck to paycheck. Learn to use the tools of airline mile programs, credit cards with points, and airline mileage affiliate programs. Use your brain, not your money.
K I did all that and decided with my brain I’m gonna bring my kid too and I don’t give a shit if the rich assholes in first class complain even if they insist they’re “paycheck to paycheck” after airing a list of grievances about how they hate having to interact with plebs on an airplane.
I mean seriously you said in another post rich people own planes. If everybody who doesnt own a plane isn’t rich I’m gonna go ahead and say you’re completely out of touch.
I said charter or own. Wealthy people often charter. Who said anything about interacting with plebs? This thread is about mother freaking babies on this mother freaking plane! :) Now, if you think the definition of plebeian is just someone who has a crotch goblin traveling with them, that’s a totally different problem for another post. Your assumption first class is only for the rich is in error. It might be someone with some savings, but very likely not rich. What is your definition of rich?
Now, as to you being angry and just wanting to use your child to piss off other people, keep that doing that. See how that goes for ya. While rare, parents have gotten themselves banned from airlines for being terrible people. Let’s see if you fit that bill.
Really putting the pseudo in pseudospock, there lol
I’m going to do it and then laugh at your annoyance.
Up to you. May or may not go well for you. While I won’t do anything to you except an unkind look, you don’t know who else we’re flying with and what they might be going through. You really want to risk you or your child’s well being just be right? Have you seen the crazy’s on planes lately? I’ll tell you this, if someone does read you the riot act or worse, I sure as hell won’t come to your aid. And despite wanting to film such a happening to see you miserable or worse, I won’t, because I won’t want to contribute to giving you evidence you could use against your attacker(s). If you think it’s terrible I wouldn’t try to protect your baby, not my fault you were such a terrible parent that the child would have been better off being aborted than being your child.
If someone attacked me or my child on a plane I would fuck them up real bad.
While we popcorn and watch your inflight entertainment.
Lol. I’m also not the biggest fan of children, but what are the parents supposed to do? Not having vacation? Leave them home alone? Throw them out the window on the drive to the airport?
Usually, yes. Stay home or have a sitter or nanny. If it’s a family emergency or tragedy, benedryl for the child before the flight. Do NOT change the child outside of the plane’s lavatory. Premium economy, not business class, as premium has some perks for bringing your baby, is more affordable than business class. Daytime flights if possible. Red-eye’s people want to sleep. Be prepared, binkies, blankets, diapers, quiet toys, etc. Try to fly when you will have the most energy, hard to parent if you yourself are sleeping from exhaustion. (not always a choice, we know.) Insure your flight. If the baby is sick, colic, or especially if it has inner ear problems, don’t go or again, arrange care for the child. No need to make the baby suffer, and in turn making you and everyone else miserable, too. Many people will not be kind if the child wasn’t feeling well and kept them up 14 hours, which will be hard on you in addition to your own exhaustion.
They can pick a vacation where they don’t have to fly… They chose to have kids and that comes with a lot of baggage.
last flight I was on had a crying kid and a guy who kept trying to slip booze into his coffee and had to be confronted several times.
guess who was the most annoying one.
point is, flying fucking sucks, most mature adults realise this and just get through it despite the discomfort. complaining about it like an entitled prick demanding certain people can’t fly is frankly pathetic
Screaming children are half the reason flying sucks. If your kid does not do well in public, pick another vacation or have someone watch them. Part of the responsibility that comes with having kids.
Why would they care about your opinion enough to not go on holiday where they want? If you want to fly without the chance of noisy kids then fly first class, or better still, private jet.
No? Can’t afford? Suck it up then lol, people are going to live their lives regardless of a bit of noise that you can easily cancel out with headphones.
Lmao How about the parents suck it up and choose a different vacation where they’re not subjecting the public to their terrors? I didn’t choose to have kids, I should not have to put up with other people’s kids. Too many people have kids who have no business being parents.
No? Can’t afford? Suck it up then lol, people are going to live their lives regardless of a bit of noise that you can easily cancel out with headphones.
hell yeah, fuck them poor people
get a sitter. If you can afford a holiday, budget for a sitter.
Or don’t have holidays until the snot factories are old enough to behave if you can’t afford a sitter. You chose to have children.
Let’s see who will pay for your retirement and medical care eventually… (unless if you live in that US hellscape ofcourse)
If you’re having kids with the express intent that they care for you when you’re old, you’re already doing it wrong.
If that’s all you’re having kids for please do not have kids.
Oh yeah, one hundred percent. The only reason I got kids was to make sure they can take care of my retirement.
Just as I’m taking care of my parents. I have totally absolutely 100% not broken off all contact with them because of their shitty behaviour. No sir, absolutely not.
well most likely be dead before anyone under 30 reaches that age.
Yes, because it’s perfectly normal to leave your young kids with strangers for a couple weeks while you go on holiday, or visit family.
Then don’t go on vacation until they’re old enough to be well behaved lmao
The same can be said for adults.
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For a night, for a couple days maybe but for weeks? Hell no, that is not what babysitters are for. And you’re delusional if you think so. A parent who leaves their kids with a stranger for weeks is not a good parent and could be brought up on child abandonment charges.
Don’t have vacations or visit family even if it’s for a wedding or funeral. Stay inside your house until your kids graduate high school to be sure. Having a life is not worth the possibility of inconveniencing other people for a few hours every so often. You’re ruining other people’s lives if you do so.
Why do you need to fly for vacation? When did flying for vacation become mandatory?
It’s not. But it’s much easier to deal with kids on a 2hr flight than it is to deal with them on a multiple day drive. And just because I have kids doesn’t mean I have to choose the more difficult option. I say this as a parent who has driven across the country with my kids, multiple times.
You require a multiple days drive for a vacation?
Oh, I was speaking for other people. I’ve never actually been on a vacation.
But it’s much easier to deal with kids on a 2hr flight than it is to deal with them on a multiple day drive
“I’ll make everyone’s flight miserable because I don’t want to experience the bad consequences of my choices”
And just because I have kids doesn’t mean I have to choose the more difficult option.
you did choose the more difficult option the moment you chose to have children. having children comes with inconveniences and because that’s your choice to have children you have to deal with the consequences, not others
Lmao yes, I have to make my life more difficult because I chose to have kids. That makes perfect sense.
‘your choices, your consequences’
not ‘your choices, everyone else’s consqeuences’
it isn’t that hard to understand is it? your entitlement is insane
Lmao dude. Get off your high horse. Your comfort doesn’t trump mine and vice versa. If anyone is entitled here, it’s you, believing that parents have to always go out of their way to make sure everyone else is comfortable just because they have kids and you don’t.
Maybe it’s different in the USA, but I’ve travelled a lot and don’t think I ever remember a long haul flight without multiple babies and young children. It’s just a fact of travelling.
I recently did a 16hr flight solo and the other 3 seats in my row of 4 were parents and a toddler.
That’s just part of flying and you should plan for it (noise cancelling headphones, sleeping tablets, ear plugs).
European flights are full of kids. It’s just the “child free” movement are very vocal and feel extremely entitled.
kids crying/screaming on public transport/etc rarely bothers me. impatient parents hissing at them to shut up and sit down does, however… i get it, they’re tired, being a parent is hard, but still.
a kid cries on the tram? i keep reading, barely even notice
a parent goes off on their kid? rips me right out of the book and makes me take notice
I had a man in his 60s tell me “if you board a flight without noise canceling headphones in 2023, that’s on you.”
We were flying to Italy (from US) with our 5 month old to visit my Aunt one last time before she passed away a few months later. Baby cried here and there for a total of maybe 1.5 out of the 9 hours. We felt so guilty but people were incredibly nice at the end when we apologized for disturbing their flight.
She’s a pretty good flyer overall but will throw her occasional 5 minute fits. I think about that man’s joke after working our asses off to calm her down.
Being angry at babies is what pathetic people do.they cant do much about their situation.
Its on their parents but… as you say… sometimes you just gotta fly. With the kid.
Anybody that complains about children and babies can go fuck themselves. You shouldn’t have to feel guilty for being a parent.
YES
Yes you should. That child is going to face pretty bad economic and climate times. The likelihood of them dying from climate change or starvation is going up. And because of covid damaging immune systems, dying of the increasing numbers of illnesses running around. Not to mention the return of once defeated diseases due to anti-vax movements.
They chose to bring a kid into a world of misery because they were needy, or they thought it would be cute, or whatever. Selfish reasons. That’s who should go f themselves.
Yeah, noise cancelling headphones delete the mechanical noise and the standard level of chatter. Screaming is left in that void to come right on through and into your brain. They don’t block angry baby screams, they make them stand out.
I don’t know what kind of noise-cancelling headphones he has but mine wouldn’t help against crying - they reduce the volume of buzzes, humms, and other background noises, but I can definitely still hear shrieks quite well.
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When you realize most of those judgemental passengers were those kids like 20 years ago (2003’sh). 😀
As long as there is effort from the parent’s side to help the baby adjust, then people should be more human and acknowledge this is how humans grow up!
No-one’s claiming that it’s unreasonable or unprecedented for kids to be noisy and disruptive due to (among other reasons) still-developing brains that can’t fully process social norms and responsibilities.
We’re saying that, given that everyone knows that fact, the parents who choose to bring poorly-behaved kids onto planes are being selfish and irresponsible.
The kids are mostly blameless in these situations - they’re still developing, they can’t (depending on age) be expected to be fully responsible. It’s the parents that are selfish shitbags.
Yeah ok I’ll just fucking have my kids put down at the vet before I go on holiday! Get a fucking grip!
Right?
I just fly Delta cause parents can’t afford it 🤷 Problem solved.
I miss Delta. I always flew Delta, but my wife likes to be frugal.
Don’t be overdramatic. You’re allowed to travel but you’ve gotta accept that no one’s happy to see you.
Well good, I accepted that long before I ever had kids!
The only people I’m not happy to see are insufferable r/childfree redditors who hate on literal children. If you hate babies there is something wrong with your brain.
I like kids, I don’t like sitting in a small metal box with the unavoidable sound of crying for hours though. Flying sucks enough as it is.
Were you forced to have kids at gunpoint?
Logical solution to this is to wait until your kid grows up a little bit and stops crying for no fucking reason. You can still travel with your toddler if you really want to, but use your own car. I don’t get the reason to take a kid this young, to travel with you, since he’s not going to remember anything anyway
People have families lol
We all have families…
I live in Norway. It’s my constitutional right to have 5 weeks of paid holiday a year (excluding public holidays) whether or not I have children. Driving isn’t viable as it would take several days just to get to a ferry that leaves Norway. Crying children are a part of flying, get used to it.
Doesn’t mean you have to fly somewhere for a simple holiday.
Yes I could drive a day and go camping in northern Scandinavia and get eaten alive by mosquitoes the size of sparrow hawks.
Could you? Then we can find that child a better parent.
Children* they enjoy their holidays in Spain.
It’s a baby, baby don’t know, baby don’t care. YOU want time in Spain. Ffs
You can have holidays in the same country that you live you know… Since you have a small child, it would be best to take care of him, instead of flying around in planes
A couple of hours in a plane is less stressful for a toddler than several days in a car seat I assure you.
Probably yeah, but also less stressful would be to plan your exotic seaside resort vacation in two years, when the little spawn of satan is not prone to crying for reasons classified.
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Because, as we all know, the only way of travelling across the ocean is by plane.
Yes, it literally is though. Like what, you expect them to spend a month at sea?
It doesn’t take a month to travel by ship.
Greta could do it in less than 2 weeks. And that was in a sailboat.
That would solve a lot of problems… You should get on that.
It won’t kill you to not go to Norway for a couple of years
I live in Norway. But sometimes it’s nice to leave for a few weeks.
It is also nice to not be on a plane with crying kids.
Are you forced to take a plane at gunpoint?
Logical solution to this is to use your own means of transportation in order to be sure to be alone if you don’t like children. You can still take a plane if you really want to, but use your own plane. I don’t get the reason to take public means of transportation, since there will always be other people in them anyway.
Lol, allright let me just sit with my fucking toddler right next to you in a 6 hour flight. I coud’ve just waiter two years until he’s old enough to not cry at random shit to take him to Spain, but fuck ya’ll. I’m not locked in here with you, you’re locked in here with me and my toddler
90% of your profile’s comments are in this thread
Either you seriously hate children to a ridiculous degree- in which case you need to see a therapist because this shit ain’t healthy- or you’re a troll.
I’m going with troll.
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It was an answer to Mycoolnejm, not to you ^^
You realise that some people live in places where that isn’t possible. I have to drive for about 10 hours to not be in the Arctic anymore.
yah please do no one wants your little shits around.
don’t go on holiday if you have cum pets. You chose that when you couldn’t keep it in your pants.
You think you’re more deserving of a holiday just because you’re shooting blanks?
You do realize you don’t have to take a plane to go on vacation, right? It won’t kill you to not take a plane for a couple of years
i stay quiet and read my book and don’t annoy the entire plane/train/bus.
You’re annoying the entirety of lemmy instead
I’m here on lemmy, and I think he right fine. Shit, I should buy him a beer. It’s the baby’s that annoy, aaaand their entitled parents.
Do you want a medal?
You are annoying the entire forum right now. You are outsourcing your shittiness online because you are deeply unwell and need an outlet
One kind of people makes humanity not go extinct in the near future.
humans are an overpopulated and invasive species, there are millions of human children waiting to be fostered
b-but muh genes
Genetics isn’t destiny, but a lot of important traits are highly heritable. Consider for example the heritability of IQ. I can see why someone who considers him or herself a good specimen would want children more like him or herself that like the sort of person whose children end up needing to be adopted.
yeah that actually makes sense
Eh, I’m mortal anyway. I don’t benefit from other people’s annoying offspring being around after I’m gone.
And they don’t benefit from your presence now, or in the future, or at any point actually.
Yeah, that’s why I leave them alone and I want them to leave me alone.
cum pets
Honestly? You should.
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I’d be interested in acquiring some children. For… purposes… Where can I get some?
I’m gonna be unapologetically that person one day. Get into a tube full of stinky humans and complain that babies exist in the world. People need to get over themselves.
Especially now that Noise Cancelling headphones are everywhere and work as good as they do. Since I’ve got my Sony headphones a crying infant becomes only a really minor inconvenience
Children don’t only make noise. So noise canceling headphones only handle one possibility of the outcomes.
I don’t think hours of noise canceling headphones are a realistic solution for everyone, like people with autism or sensitive ears.
What we should have is a “children’s section” in the back of the plane. If your party only contains adults, then you can only book in the adult section until it’s filled, and same with parties that have kids. Parents don’t want to disrupt everyone, but imagine this on a longer bus or train ride!
When I bring my whole family somewhere I almost always book the farthest back on the plane I can. There doesn’t have to be specific sections… just people with common courtesy.
but one thing I’m noticing as a common theme in these threads is that there’s an innate blame on the children/parents. Kids oftentimes CANNOT pop their ears due to how narrow their Eustachian tubes are. https://kidshealth.org/en/parents/flying-ears.html There can be cases where the baby’s ears actually tear if the Eustachian tubes are blocked due to a cold or something of that nature.
The better answer is to just educate them in a friendly manner. If you do it tactfully then maybe junior will simmer down and everyone can move on without this passive aggressiveness we see in the photo. Giving the kid a bottle (if they’re that young) is often all that needs to happen to work the tubes open a little bit to relieve the pain.
Now… if you’re a parent… and have a colicky little one… skip the plane if you can. You know your kid. If they’re not going to take to the plane well, then you’re just being a dick to everyone around you.
So in other words: putting a sick young child on a plane is a health and safety risk for the child
Anecdotally my spouse and I know this; our kids are just extremely energetic. We aren’t simply uneducated on how ears work, and getting unsolicited tips from childless people while already busy with our kids is just another stressor.
Call me a dick if you want, but sometimes flying noisily is the only practical option. No we’re not going to drive cross country to grandma’s funeral.
We aren’t simply uneducated on how ears work, and getting unsolicited tips from childless people while already busy with our kids is just another stressor.
Well… considering I have 2 kids. You can put your bullshit “tips from childless people” garbage argument away. The source of the information is irrelevant if the information is true regardless.
Regardless that doesn’t negate the overall “common courtesy” theme of my post.
I apologize if my reply came across as an attack against you personally. I thought you were suggesting that anyone reading your post (not just you) should go up to stressed out parents and explain how ears work.
While other parents do sometimes chime in with unsolicited tips during stressful situations, they seem to (usually) be more aware of whether or not their actual information is relevant, and not just a distraction.
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Ok, then replace “funeral” with any family function you need to attend. Should your kids miss school on Friday and Monday to drive to and from a weekend wedding?
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I don’t think you’ll find many parents willing to make that sacrifice for courtesy.
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Kids exist in the world. Get over it. You’re the adult in the situation.
I DROVE across Canada rather than dare take a plane with a possibility of screaming and kicking children. Sensory issues are a bitch.
Sometimes plane travel can’t be helped, and little children can be loud and obnoxious. I feel for those around me, but as a parent we have to endure this far longer than anyone else. It’s not like we like the noise either.
“Why won’t anyone think of the paaaaareeeents? Nobody suffers more than me from the problem that I created!”
So now I need to conform to some dead-end 20 something because they can’t be bothered to bring headphones on a plane?
Like I wasn’t an adult without kids at some point who had to fly with crying babies on board.
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“Conflating the two is ableist and insulting.”
I think the auto-reply should be an audible sigh and a “just shut the fuck up”. But hey, you tell me how you thought this would go?
Imagine being a childless person in a children’ section. No one should have this kind of pain for hours
Ok, I’m imagining I’m a person who doesn’t care and just needs to get on the next flight. I would have a choice that I don’t have right now.
I’ve had to use canceling headphones for several hours a day for months due to asshole neighbours. Doing that provokes and exacerbates migraines. Using common sense and separating noise emitters from noise sufferers should always be the first step.
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My understanding is that it generates waves that cancel out the sound waves so your ear drums are actually receiving more sound pressure than without the noise canceling headphones even though you don’t hear the sound.
oh my god it’s so relieving to hear that i’m not the only one
Yep, during booking they should only show the back rows available if you’re traveling with children of certain age. It should be simple, I think.
This ass taking weird selfies in his first class seat looks so entitled
not gonna lie that guy has an incredibly punchable face
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there are quite a few people that have faces that just have a “punch me” written on them. he is one. I am not a violent person
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Don’t want to be pedantic but you don’t “own” children, you are parent.
oh, but you DO want to be pedantic.
very much. (to be a bit too pedantic here)
Thx, I don’t like this kind of view, too.
There is a quote in my native language: “Kids are only borrowed.”
literally pedantism
OP is probably not a native English speaker and didn’t mean for it to sound this way
If you’re going to travel, use ANC headphones instead of complaining about people’s children.
Agreed. I don’t have kids and I feel that it’s my responsibility to bring earplugs and headphones if I want a quiet flight.
I don’t have kids either, but I know having them isn’t easy at all, specially having them stuck in a plane for hours.
ANC headphones don’t work against shrieking cum pets.
Or maybe people shouldn’t bring toddlers on a plane. You don’t need a plane to have a perfectly fine vacation.
your second sentence is a solution for you too
As if that’s a good reason to make a flight completely miserable
so you want freedom to fly but think others don’t. A+ hypocrisy
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Adults without kids should bring speakers with crying noises blasting from it. When people understandably get upset tell them to deal with your bad decisions.
Sounds like a good method for adults that like to get punched in the face a lot.
How anybody flies without noise-canceling headphones these days is beyond me.
They’re good at cancelling out deep grumbling noises but purposely let through high tones so users can hear fire / safety alarms ringing. Unfortunately baby’s screaming is more similar to the latter and cuts right through to your ears
It still takes the edge off… I have two little sirens myself.
In business class, no less. Like come in you rich dorks, you have no excuse to be prepared for this shit.
Overpriced. And then you need them for every member of the family :)
And they also might not work well enough
Or just suck it up and be and adult instead of complaining about literal babies 24/7. Go back to r/childfree
noise-cancelling headphones don’t help with crying babies unfortunately, just hums & buzzes like the engines, HVAC system, etc.
I just had a 9 hour flight where both bathrooms were plugged and aisles were completely covered in puke because this kid got so sick, and refused to throw up into a bag. Every time he got sick he ran from his mom and threw up somewhere else on the plane
Left flight with puke on my backpack and shoes. Whole back of the plane was vomiting throughout the flight due to the smell. Nobody could use the bathrooms for the last 3 hours of the flight
My noise cancelling headphones were not effective
Literal nightmare fuel
Yeah I’ve always had pre flight anxiety, all the “what ifs” going through my head
I actually didn’t think it could ever be so bad. Forever scared to fly ever again…
Im gagging just thinking about it. Ok, i will forever bring a facemask plus aromatic salts with me everytime i do an intercontinental flight!
I’m taller than average so it already sucks but last year I had three flights IN A ROW where I got placed behind somebody who was obsessed with leaning back in their seat. Like they’d lean back as much as the seat would let them which was already painful but then they’d try and push it more and more and jump back into the seat which was only hurting my knees more. One was 6 hours and I literally could not sleep 1 second because of the pain. three DIFFERENT people did this! Noise cancelling headphones did not help.
I know your pain friend. Worse still when you see the extra legroom seats were all given to 5 foot nothing grandmas
Should have gotten Bose.
Lol I’d have paid good money to see that.
Yeah I know it barely even sounds like a true story, but it really happened
Vancouver to Frankfurt via condor, Aug 3.
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Dude. How did the fucking marshals not step in? Allowing anyone, child or not, to repeatedly spread bio hazard on other passengers is not ok. One time? Fine, kids are gross and things happen. Repeatedly? That kid is a terrorist.
Believe it or not but not everyone is from the US. Flight marshals are mainly a US thing
Recalibrate your irony sensors.
Canada to Germany flight. Not much can be done while you are flying over Greenland.
The kid was mentally ill. I blame the mother. She tried to wash a blanket or something in the sink, clogging the entire plane. People were pissing into bottles
Surprised this didn’t make the news really. It barely sounds like a true story
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I always book late night / red-eye when travelling with kids / grandkids. For some magical reason I cannot comprehend, they sleep nearly the entire flight.
