I don’t think I have seen this but the reason we see this effect is murder. The richer you are the older you you manage to live. Either you are too poor and misadventures get your. Or the things that you have progressive beliefs about will get you oppressed and maybe murdered by society. I don’t think it is intended. It could easily be so however, it is just a slow oppression and crushing of everyone in society.
Yeah there is hardcore survivor’s bias.
Also the statement is at best only partially true for the older bougie and middle class fucks who lived through the 80s-90s as neoliberalism did it’s best to delegitimize socialism, and who dominate todays discourse about that period, due to wealth and survivor bias.
It’s all nice and all, but where does the picture comes from?
Eat the rich at any age
I was actually more right wing as a kid. Now that I’ve learned some things about the world that’s when I became a left leaning liberal.
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Don’t stop there… commit fully to the dark side
I’m at a pretty low level of rightishness, but I fluctuate a bit. I’ve been socially left since my late teens and sort of homeless but libertarian economically. My personal ethics are definitely closer to some left-lib ideologies.
I’m really uncomfortable with subjective categories. My brain wants objective lines. I’m also extra empathetic. Working out a personal philosophy that fits both is kind of time consuming, but worth it because my brain really likes objective lines.
If you make sure that you never ever stop learning and that there is never an end to the process you will eventually go further.
Don’t stop.
I will never stop learning. This is actually something I admire my parents in. They never stop learning new things
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Went from voting far right in 2017 (fucking welfare abusers ) to far left in 2022 (fuckibg corporations costing three times more than welfare) kek
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My friends who have kids now did become more conservative. But most of them are very religious and grew up going to church every Sunday. So… I think they might have had a certain influence.
After I had kids I found Satanism and became a communist. I have no idea what your friends are doing but they’re doing it wrong.
I’d guess those friends were always that conservative, it’s just that now they have less energy and incentive to tone it down around friends…combined with having more to lose now.
OK, teenager.
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What age do I have to hit before I become so bitter and joyless?
Again, this is not a boomer issue. I was told the same thing by Silents. I’ve only moved left-er.
The difference between you and others your age that didn’t move left is likely material conditions. Those that got it reasonably good likely feel like capitalism worked for them so it should work for everyone. Property inheritance also plays a significant role.
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I’m 43. I keep moving further left.
“people get more selfish and small minded as they age, that’s just a fact!”
Subtext here is that white boomers became more conservative because the civil rights movement made them miss Jim Crow
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Thats actually opposite for me. I remember being more conservative in my 20. I remember watching people like Amazing atheist, armored sceptic, shoe on head and some others that I dont remember. Now in my 30, I have actually softened up a lot and got more liberal views now.
I remember a high school friend’s father saying something to me like, “You’ll get more conservative when you start paying taxes.” This was around 1993-1994 or so.
I’m 45 now, modestly wealthy, and pay plenty of taxes. I can’t envision ever voting for a Republican for any public office ever again…and the current circus of bullshit around TFG just seals that deal for me.
Same (though not American). I did the opposite. I started off conservative cause that’s what my family and community was. Then found out that was hateful bullshit and am now extremely progressive. I’m happy to pay my taxes (and I pay waaaay more than average). I do sometimes wish they went to better things and weren’t squandered as often (especially on MPs paying for $16 glasses of orange juice), but overall Canada does a decent job at using its taxes. It’s impossible for taxes to go to 100% agreeable things, since there’s no satisfying everyone. They’re ultimately a net benefit.
I also don’t have kids but am happy to see kids get the benefits of my taxes (and many other things taxes go to that don’t directly benefit me). People who expect tax dollars to always benefit them are selfish and narrow-minded, which I think is the root reason some people don’t like taxes.
Even if conservatives go back to being about “small government”, I can’t see myself voting Republican. I don’t think I’m anything. I can see “small government” working. But I can also see the democrats vision of “government should do things” working too. I can see either technique working. The problem is, back when Republicans used to promote “small government”, I noticed after a while, they never made government smaller. When I confronted some of them on that, they used to say at least its not as big as what the democrats want. What the fuck does that even mean? Democrats, on the other hand, actually try to do stuff.
They want small government for the rich and big government for anyone that’s not a conservative pentecostal Christian. Simple. Lol
They only became more conservative because the party used to be somewhat sensible but also used a bit of nostalgia in their campaigning. Now they just use hatred and nostalgia for times where you could openly be hateful. More flies with honey and all that.
Also as someone who is in a not great position, thanks for voting and caring. Selfishly I ask that you especially listen to help for disabled folks. I am in a really bad position and its hard to get out of it because so few people care. When people don’t care then they don’t think about it when voting and we end up in worse positions. Disability benefits, where I am anyway, are stagnated and haven’t risen alongside inflation in 30 years while rent/food costs have exploded. Minimum wage isn’t a livable wage and disability here gets less than minimum wage.
Sorry for the ramble. Been a harsh couple days.
