I’ve never driven / idk how parking works
Why is this bad ?The reason many accessible spots like this had large clearance on both sides is so if the person in the vehicle needs extra space to get out. Many times they may have a lift or ramp that raises and lowers an accessibility scooter into and out of the side of the van and blocking this area stops them from accessing their equipment.
Thanks a lot this is good to know :)
Whoever left it like that, should get a smaller mobility scooter. These oversized ones can’t be driven indoors, and as such, you get this.
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I used to work with a Vietnam vet that had his leg blown off and he rode a Harley with whatever you control with your left foot somehow relocated. He told good stories about being part of a tank crew and ordered flaming shots at the bar, fun guy to talk to.
Just saying, don’t assume.
Other than the both having motor vehicles, how does that story relate to this picture at all?
The relationship is “you can ride a motorcycle (or tricycle in this case) and also be disabled, thereby being eligible to park there.”
It’s a motor vehicles parked where one is not allowed to be parked, what does disability have to do with any of this?
I think what you’re getting at is “disabled or not, parking on the painted margin is prohibited,” which is correct as far as I know, but I think most people would think about it differently if the driver was disabled.
e.g. Someone with difficulty walking wanted to exercise their permission to park there so that they could be closer to the entrance, but still wanted to leave a wide spot open so another disabled driver could potentially use it. Still wrong, but many people would perceive that differently.
Again, not defending the behavior (and the driver likely wasn’t disabled, just a jerk)… But surely you see how their disability status is relevant in a scenario concerning a disabled parking spot?
No one is eligible to park there. That’s the point of the stripes. There is a perfectly good space for disabled right next to where they parked if they have a placard/plate.
I’m not defending their park job-- it’s bad-- I’m just describing the relationship to the other person’s “disabled veteran with a Harley” story, which is what the person I was replying to asked about.
Parked in the handicapped space, there is room for two more vehicles with side ramps. Parked where he is, there is still room for two vehicles with side ramps (both using the other ramp space, one pulled in, one backed in) plus room for a vehicle without a side ramp.
Parked the way you want, there is room for 3 vehicles. Parked the way he did, there is room for at least 4.
The only way he is an asshole is if he doesn’t have a handicap sticker.
There’s a reason they didn’t make it a spot, so vehicles with wheelchair ramps can actually function. Otherwise there’s not enough room and they’ll be trapped in their vehicle. So considerate.
Ok. Go look at the image again, and this time, stop and think about it.
You are driving a vehicle equipped with a ramp on the left side. You certainly can’t pull into this space; your ramp will be blocked by the trike. But, you can still back in to the space, and use the ramp access on the opposite side.
The alternative is that he takes the whole space, and you don’t have a handicap space accessible to you at all.
And you are telling me that it is preferable for him to simply take the entire space he is entitled to take, rather than leave enough room for you to park as well?
Are you serious right now?
Left foot is gear shifter. It’s an up/down button. Easy to relocate.
But who the fuck cares? Vet, hero, dog-savior. Don’t park like a fucking asshole. Park in an actual spot or don’t park there at all. In this image’s case they are potentially blocking 2 spots, at least 1 handicapped. I hope he got 2 $500 tickets.
It looks like there are 3 marked handicapped spaces. He is entitled to 1, leaving two, both with side ramp access.
The way he is parked, there is still room for two vehicles with side ramps, both using the other, marked ramp space (one pulling in, the other backing in). And there is still an empty, presumably marked space on the other side of him. It isn’t accessible to a vehicle with a side ramp, but the overwhelming majority of handicapped vehicles don’t need or have them.
You want him to leave room for two other handicapped vehicles. He parked in a way to leave room for 3 other handicapped vehicles. And for that, you’re going to call him a fucking asshole?
I think your sphincter is cutting off the blood supply to your brain. You might want to address that.
Weird hill to die on.
Yeah that’s fair. Tbh this is probably just a able bodied jackass, just throwing an alternate viewpoint out there.
Then park IN the handicap spot. Not blocking the handicap spot’s ramp access.
So, he parks in the space, and he blocks any other handicapped vehicle, regardless of whether it needs ramp access or not.
Or, he parks there, and he only blocks vehicles that need ramp access on the side AND can’t back into the space to use the ramp access on the other side.
The way you want him to park, he is definitely blocking a space. The way he is actually parked, he is probably not blocking any spaces.
Whether in the space or beside it, two more vehicles with side ramps can still park in those three spaces. Beside it, there is room for a fourth vehicle without a side ramp.
The only way this guy is an asshokenisnifnhe isn’t actually handicapped, but being that he is on a trike, there is a good chance that he is.
I’ll never understand big motorcycles. In what way is it better than normal cars?
I have a big motorcycle, two wheels, not three. I will try to explain.
Visibility on a motorcycle is phenomenal. Not only do you not have roof pillars in the way, you’re sitting high enough that you can see over things (like you can in an SUV or truck).
There is so much room for activites … in your traffic lane. I never have concerns about being too close to other traffic, construction barriers, curbs, etc.
Performance-wise, if you want to experience crazy acceleration without spending supercar money, get a motorcycle. And a big motorcycle will handle high speeds on the highway just as well as, if not better than, a car at the same price point. (At least mine does.)
Fuel economy. My big - nay, giant - motorcycle gets 33MPG, and that’s including occasional crazy acceleration I noted earlier. And my fuel injectors are dirty, too. On the down side, mine requires premium, but there are big bikes out there that will take 87 octane.
I would never park like this, and I have had words with people who do.
Im just curious. Is it a Goldwing? Maybe an electraglide. If its bigger than those i would be very curious. I live in the SW, so i ride routinely. I agree with the view. Its nice being up higher (r1200gs), though as of late i am grateful my fuel economy is a bit better at 40 ( its also a 2007, so older ). Being on a bike leaves you more exposed, but i kinda feel safer. Like you mention, we have space in a lane, we can maneuver into, and out of, places cars cant. When we do hit, its worse, but with good driving habits you can do a lot more on a bike. Meh, could be i just really live my bike and have become biased.
2007 Triumph Rocket III. Way back, I almost bought a naked 76 Goldwing, but it turned out to have some mechanical problems that spoiled that deal. Now I am on “the bike” for me.
Do you know he wasn’t disabled? Those tricycles are often used by people who can’t ride a bike anymore but still want bugs in their teeth.
It’s not IN the disabled spot though, it’s next to it.
I’m assuming he is disabled. It looks like there are three marked handicap spaces. The way you want him to park, two additional vehicles with side ramps could park. A total of 3 handicap vehicles, 2 with side ramps.
The way he actually parked, two vehicles with side ramps could park (both utilizing the other ramp space, one pulling in, the other backing in), and another handicapped space is still available for a vehicle without side ramps, which are the overwhelming majority of handicapped vehicles. A total of 4 handicap vehicles, 2 with side ramps.
Now, I admit, my arithmetic skills were developed before the era of “New Math”, so they might have changed it since. But when I learned it, “4” was greater than “3”.
infront of the train station where i live there is always cars that park over 3 spaces i have no idea what one would have to think to not just park normally
Wtf kind of markings are those even?
Handicap parking, it’s the extra space meant for a side loading ramp.
it’s the extra space meant for a side loading ramp.
Oh, that makes a lot of sense. Thanks.
Didn’t even notice, what the fuck is going on there?
Possible stupid question: What is the appeal of those three-wheeled motorcycles anyway?
A lot of times they’re used by disabled people who can’t ride traditional motorcycles.
That makes sense.
All the safety of a motorcycle with the maneuverability of a car.
This guy /s
They’re just giant mobility scooters.
I know a couple of guys with them, often its older guys with back, hip or knee issues.
So you could be handicapped and riding one of those is what I think I am reading?
That didnt even cross my mind but, yeah that could actually be the case and they parked over to one side to leave room deliberately.
Indeed… Nothing in the image proves to us that the person riding this isn’t actually disabled… quite the opposite honestly. Hell I’d even make a case that they missed the handi-spot completely and they’re driving a motorcycle… they’re probably mentally disabled but that might be doing an injustice to those who are also disabled but recognize road markings and their meanings.
Or… they parked over to one side to keep the other side of the space open for someone in a small car who is also disabled.
By blocking the driver door on the non handi spot and the passenger on the handi spot? Yeah no. Just follow the rules. There’s a point to having universal rules.
I ride motorcycles. When I get too old I’ll be riding one of those with my oxygen tank strapped to it.
I dislike bikes but my guess is it’s more stable than a 2 wheel bike, slightly safer death trap.
Where I live you can drive these with a regular car drivers license, because they are technically considered cars according to the law. So you save money and time not getting a motor cycle license. But that probably doesn’t apply to the US.
In the US, it depends on motor size and a few other things. Also varies by state. But that’s often true.
A motorcycle is: “a motor vehicle with motive power having a seat or saddle for the use of the rider and designed to travel on not more than three wheels in contact with ground”
I think they count as standard motorcycles in the U.S.
I can’t speak for everywhere, but in Texas you have to have an M class license (motorcycle endorsement) in order to ride one legally.
I’ve ridden one before. They’re fun, but I’m happier with my car.
Trikes are usually ridden by older people anyways so it’s possible this person actually is legally handicapped and didn’t want to take up the whole spot since they have a smaller vehicle.
They were probably attempting to be courteous here, not an asshole.
Doubt it. Surely anyone legally handicapped knows to stay clear of the loading/ramp area of a handicapped spot
I love when people double park in front of a business but if you drive up the street a block or park of the other side of the road there’s plenty of spots, but instead flashes hazard lights and parks in the fucking road/way.
Welcome to every downtown area everywhere.
Welcome to every downtown area everywhere
… in the United car-dependent States of America.
And every drugstore, grocery store, Starbucks, Walmart, etc…
He probably thinks he’s pretty considerate cause he didn’t use the handicapped spot.
Geriatric motorcycle.
Who buys motorcycles with training wheels?
Riders who get old mostly. Bikes aren’t light once they start to tip.
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Why are those stripes yellow? They should be blue, to indicate it’s the access ♿ path for people exiting wheelchair accessible vehicles. (Or with other mobility issues, but specifically it’s wider to drop a ramp.)
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There’s only one way I can surmise to excuse this: If the rider is legit disabled, maybe they use 2 crutches or something, and when they arrived some non disabled asshole had taken the actual spot. While they were inside asking the store owner to call for a tow or ticket (because it’s private property it has to be the owner) the asshole left.
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That’s not universal. In some states, only the handicap symbol is marked blue, with the space and restrictions marked in yellow. I think all-yellow markings - including the symbol - are still allowed in some jurisdictions. I prefer the blue marking for everything, but the yellow may be accepted here.
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If he is, indeed, handicapped, he is entitled to use one of the three spaces, leaving two spaces with ramp access. However, parking in the ramp access, there is still room for two vehicles with side ramps to use the other ramp space, and there is room for one more handicap vehicle without a side ramp. He has made room for 4 vehicles instead of 3.
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It’s not nice making fun of the mentally handicapped.