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    Users can post whatever they want. But anytime mods are dicks I hope that people call them out. So that if it is something I post to I can switch to another group.

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    You mentioning the car thing is so true. Anytime you mention stuff about cars here, you’ll get the typical comment reply using it as a soapbox platform to say how cars are the devil.

    The FuckCars users are some of the most toxic people on this site. It’s not even worth arguing with them.

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      I get why people are anti cars. But those who want to take cars away from people who enjoy them and who are trying to behave responsibly just suck.

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      As I recall, there was a split in that Reddit community about whether to migrate here. Most of them decided to stay there on the (reasonable) grounds that they wanted to reach as many people as possible with their (IMO justified) message. So presumably the ones who came here are the dogmatic ideologues who prefer hating to persuading.

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      Same thing for technology.

      I had to block five tech communities because it’s nothing but “technology evil” posts and comments, and when I complain about the lack of positive feedback, they just tell me I’m ignorant to reality…which is irrelevant to me just wanting to enjoy positive tech communities…

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        And god forbid you mention Windows. You’ll be told you’re better off dead in no time…

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        I stopped hanging out in most tech communities for the same reason. Thinking of quiting a few more and a few game ones, the behaviour has started dripping in.

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          Why don’t you guys start a new community that suits you? I bet there’s more people that feel the same way.

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    1. Stop caring about ‘votes’

    2. Don’t caring about what people you don’t want to hear from. Just block them.

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      This.

      Seriously, people, start filtering out who gets to tell you shit.

      Of course, don’t overdo it and create an echo chamber for yourself, block the extremes, but don’t block basic disagreement.

      I started doing this years ago, primarily on Twitch.

      I despise copy pastas and edgelord comments, it’s why I generally watch streamers that have a relatively chill and small audience.

      But I do go into Kripps chat simply to fill up my block list with people that relentlessly spam chats with copy pastas and other similar sorts of comments.

      Later I started being a bit more gung-ho doing the same on all platforms and it made all types of social media oh so much better.

      You’ll quickly notice that a lot of the comments that put your teeth on edge came from the same few loud and obnoxious people, because once you start blocking people like that, after just 10-20 of them, the comments you see are already far more palatable.

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      I apologize to everyone I’m about to insult but lemmy users generally behave like redditors. People generally don’t write comments with relevant information in order to have them passed over. It can be frustrating, especially when the rest of the comments are repeated jokes or could be summarized as alternative articulations of “this.”

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        Nah, there’s one key difference between lemmy users and Reddit users. They behave mostly the same, but there is also a sense of superiority where they just think they know better because of the platform they choose to use.

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            Redditors think they’re better than everyone else. Lemmy users think they’re better than Redditors and everyone else. Lemmy users are one step higher on the superiority complex totem pole

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        Yes. unfortunately the behavior modification sticks with them. I recall seeing some submissions with pictures of text as well 🙄

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    Haven’t seen too much negativity on lemmy.ml or lemmy.world but did want to say that we have a Mechanic Advice community that’s growing a little every day if you’re into that stuff. It’s a fetus now but will be grown in no time

    Oh, and the community is https://lemmy.world/c/mechanicadvice for anyone interested!

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          Odd that it never came up when I searched for it previously. I wonder if you might be missing subscribers because they can’t find the community like me.

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            It’s only really been active for a little bit, maybe that’s why? Aside from that, I’d guess that maybe it’s an issue with different instances though couldn’t say for certain as I’m Lemmy inept. Are you on Lemmy.world?

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              No, I’m on sh.itjust.works but I can search lemmy.world. i was active on mech advice on Reddit before coming over here and have looked for it a few times. Even now, though, I searched for it right before I took the direct link to the community and got nothing. It’s just weird.

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                I figured you could! That is strange. I searched it just now and got it, the only difference I can think of other than being on sh.itjust.works would maybe be the app you’re using? I’m not savvy enough to have much of a guess tbh but it would be nice if people could find us!

                I know I was bummed out when I couldn’t find a community for it, one of the biggest miffs I had about leaving Reddit!

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                  That’s my guess, either federation or app. Hopefully it doesn’t affect a lot of other people!

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                Your instance probably simply doesnt know that this community exist. You cant magically see all communities on a different instance you’re federated with.

                It’s one of the problems of activitypub right now.

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    you have to understand that some of this people have extremist beliefs because they are poor and resent those who are doing better than them. so having a car makes you a target. edit: as you can see they resent my comment but have no arguments against it.

    you can give them a chance if you want but the moment they show their colors you should just block them and move on. the world is full of resentful people. you can usually look at their comment history and see it’s getting close to being worth reporting to the fbi in some cases.

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      If that’s your argument, you should add that you doing better has nothing to do with your individual actions. Otherwise you just sound like a billionaire fanboy.

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        I don’t disagree that systemic factors play a huge role, but individual actions can definitely contribute a lot as well. A family member of mine grew up dirt poor in a developing country but worked their ass off to save money to move to the US, worked their ass off more and is now in the top of their field, owns a house, multiple cars, paid for their kids college, etc. Luck almost certainly played a part (and choosing the right field to go into) and it’s obviously the case that a lot of people who work hard all their life are never able to get out of poverty, but individual actions can definitely contribute to moving up the socioeconomic ladder. It certainly shouldn’t be the only factor, though, as conservatives and the rich want it to be.

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          Of course you are right and they can contribute a lot in an individual person’s life. But when you look at the statistics, there are numbers on economic freedom of moving into an upper class of where you start with.

          And some countries are good in that regard. Some countries are very very bad in that regard.

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        Nothing to do with your individual actions? Really? So there’s no difference between someone who works their ass off in school / uni and someone who just fucks around and drops out? I get that the children of the richest 1% can fail successfully, but for the bottom 99% you have to have some substance in order to succeed.

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        As someone who “crawled out of a shithole” i can accept that “luck” or circumstance plays a big role. But if you are not born privileged and you grasp what’s important to do better and put effort (and the circumstances allow it) then your efforts are as crucial as putting them in the right place which might be impossible to accomplish for most.

        For that reason I cannot agree with dismissing my individual actions.

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    Downvotes mean literally nothing here, even more so than Reddit. So I’d say don’t be discouraged. And if nobody ever disagrees with you in life, you are doing something wrong.

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      Downvotes mean your comment is more likely to get removed by a mod, and you’re more likely to get banned.

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    The people replying on your comment aren’t even from lemmy.ml

    Where you see a user name with an instance after, the instance is one with access to the same content. Lots of users access the big insurances.

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    I think lemmy.ml users are pretty well behaved and reasonable. Sometimes you get a rude response, it’s the internet.

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    It seems like a lot of Lemmy users are slightly radical american “leftists”. This is an example of this on Lemmy.world. It seems that some users see Lemmy as a forum for politicly “left”-leaning americans, not a general purpose forum. Maybe some people prefer an echo chamber?

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      “slightly”.

      That’s being very nice. The correct word would be anarchist.

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        I haven’t seen a single anarchist on Lemmy. Not even one.

        The most obvious group, and the one this thread is about, is about as far as it’s possible to get from being anarchists.

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          “eat the rich” “destroy the institutions”

          Etc… That’s not left. Insinuating killing it destroying societies is, by definition, anarchist.

          Socialism, Communism are about change, not control or jealousy.

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            No - anarchism, by definition, is the complete absence of institutionalized authority.

            Those around here who are calling for the destruction of institutions have no intention of creating a society free from the hierarchy of authority - they want to destroy the current authority merely so that they can replace it with their own.

            Again, they’re about as far as it’s possible to get from being anarchists. They’re as authoritarian as fascists - they just have a different set of norms they want to forcibly impose, and a different set of people they’re eager to oppress and murder along the way.

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      Fediverse can be confusing. But your link appears to be a post on !memes@lemmy.ml not world.

      Lemmy.ml and lemmygrad, as well as the Lemmy software stack were started by leninists after getting pushed off reddit. If you don’t like it. And even as a leftist I can understand that. Since leninists tend to be blind, dogmatic, and somehow more authoritarian than a large chunk of capitalists. Block and avoid the domain. If you wander into their domain and push back. Be prepared for toxicity. Just like you yourself would likely give if they wandered into your areas and admonished you.

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      I hate the political landscape on Lemmy. The fact that their are people who are unironically communists shows the lack of political maturity in those groups

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      Some lemmy instances are explicitly leftist and that’s something we all just need to accept. You can block those instances or you interact with them, but it’s not anyone’s place to tell an instance how to do things on their own server. There are general purpose instances as well.

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      This is especially true for lemmy.ml. Political arguments and circlejerking sometimes start in completely unrelated topics and comments literally saying that every right winger is a fascist get lots of upvotes. It’s like a distilled version of some far left subreddits.

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    Lemmy is a bit of a darkweb corner. It’s growing fast from Reddit users, but redditors are not particularly known for being the best form of the online argument either.

    Like anywhere else, I’d say pick your communities carefully. And accept that a platform that is in shift and growth has a lot of potential for weird encounters. Try not to take the bad experiences too personally.

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      Something that takes a bit of adjustment that a lot of ex-Redditors here are yet to realize: the fediverse is specifically built for curating your experience overall. It’s not meant to replicate the Reddit’s everything all jumbled together experience. There technically is somewhat of a post algorithm to a degree on lemmy, but most of the fediverse doesn’t have that and what lemmy has is a very bare minimum. Follow the communities you are interested in and block the ones you really can’t vibe with. When more granular blocking and silencing comes especially on the admin end, it’ll be more easy to utilize that curation experience as well. No one here is forced to interact with you and you aren’t forced to interact with them, and if the person you cant vibe with is an instance admin or a community mod you can go somewhere you vibe better or start something new yourself instead if you have time and energy to do so.

      Free yourself and block that community that raises your blood pressure. You aren’t missing anything, I promise.

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        This exactly. I keep my front page the list of my subscribed communities sorted by activity. And it’s all good in the hood. If I want to go looking for trouble then look at all sorted by activity. Just like or even more so than on reddit. Just throwing yourself out into the deep end of the stream to see what happens to float by is not a good idea for just starting to get involved. Follow what you like and slowly expand from there.

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    yes, very tolerant people here.

    I saw there was a conservative community and decided to look at it.

    every single post is downvoted to -20 because that’s bad.

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      I saw there was a conservative nazi community and decided to look at it.

      You had a typo. I fixed it for you

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      Conservatism is bad. Conservatism has only one tenant. Conserving power for your group and your group alone. Whether or not said power structure is good or bad. Conservatives themselves are intolerant and selfish. But always shocked when their selfishness and intolerance is returned to them. If you want tolerance and understanding show tolerance and understanding. The same advice I would give to leninists.

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    I’m new to Lemmy from Reddit and I’m very confused about like Lemmy.world lemmy.ml. I understand subreddits the equivalent of what that is. But what do these .whatever’s change?

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      It’s like Gmail and Outlook/Hotmail, different servers run by different people but you can talk across them

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      They are individual copies of the Lemmyverse that all sync content with each other. That’s the ‘federation’ part. Some of them are weird and scary places, friend.

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      An instance is more like an own reddit and not a sub.

      Lemmy.world is a reddit. Lemmy.ml is a reddit Feddit.de is a reddit

      Each of them act like reddit does.

      But those reddits connect to each other and you have access to the content and communities of the other instances.

      All those instances have several communities which are like subs

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      Think of it like email (lists). There can be a !fuckcars@lemmy.world and a !fuckcars@lemmy.ml (the latter doesn’t exist, but it could)

      You can access both communities, subscribe to both and post to both. Their content is (mostly) identical, the only difference is who’s hosting it.

      There is no central authority determining the rules. For instance, Reddit can ban whatever they like and allow whatever they like. That’s not how it works here. The only rules are what each community decides are their own rules. Certain communities, such as !piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com no longer exist in some sort of tolerated limbo, unlike on Reddit where they could be shut down at a moment’s notice.

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      Have we officially reached the point where mainstream internet users don’t know how URLs work?

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    If downvotes are the issue, beehaw.org doesn’t allow downvotes. Those folks are automatically eliminated from that. You can then just ignore the comments you don’t like and it’s all good. 👍

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      A few notes though:

      • Beehaw does not allow for user-created communities. One could pitch an idea to the admins, but should not have high hopes.
      • Beehaw is planing to test (non-federated) software other than Lemmy in a few months from now, because they are growingly dissatisfied with how the software works (esp. from an admin’s point of view). So if you wish to stay part of Lemmy/Kbin/other parts of the Fediverse you may wish to consider not making Beehaw your “home”. I in fact made this account on lemmings.world, because I wanted to have sufficient time ahead of that in order to “test the waters” so to speak. Pre-Beehaw I was on lemmy.ml, but this was in part because there was no federation yet (making everyone flock to the biggest of ~5 instances of Lemmy that existed at the time).