• blind3rdeye@lemm.ee
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    11 months ago

    It’s too late to avoid problems; but it’s certainly not too late to take action. This is not a binary yes / no or climate change / no climate change situation. It’s a continuum. We can’t avoid it completely, but the longer we delay action the worse it gets. There is still a lot of room for it to get worse. So reducing emissions is more important now than it has even been, even if some problems are unavoidable.

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    Stages of climate change denial:

    1 it doesn’t exist

    2 we aren’t causing it

    3 it isn’t that bad

    4 we can’t solve it

    5 it’s too late now (so might as well go on consuming oil)

    We can’t just throw our hands up and give up because we don’t know how bad it will be yet. So we should still try everything we can to stop ghg emissions and sequester those already in the air.

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/climate-consensus-97-per-cent/2013/sep/16/climate-change-contrarians-5-stages-denial

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      That’s basically the mindset I’m in.

      We’re screwed and won’t shape up in time. But I’m still going to self reflect and improve myself.

      There is very little chance. But there is zero chance if everyone lets zero chance stop them from caring about their own actions.

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      That’s nicely said.

      I think however, the problem is more that everybody wants to solve climate change, as long as it doesm’t cost them anything.

      And since big companies and banks are the only ones with enough money to make a significant difference, climate change will only be solved by having cost-competitive clean sources of energy. Which we have.

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    This is a leadership problem. The problem really does need to be solved at the top.

    The reality is most working class cannot just stop, unless handed a practical alternative because stopping would mean not going to work, not earning income, and being rendered homeless. Likely living in their car first which would put oil consumption right back in play.

    Whatever alternative you’re thinking of that the working class might be able to achieve as an individual probably has a buy-in cost. Given the even greater number of folks living paycheck to paycheck in the last two years, that buy-in isn’t a plausible ask.

    Sucks. But here we are. Find a cost free (to the working class individual) solution that doesn’t interrupt the 5-6 day/wk work schedule or require any extra costs or moving and you’ll solve it. Until then, working class folks are going to do what they must to keep the lights on and the water running, and that’s usually going to be commuting to work in a gas consuming vehicle. As such, the solution needs to come from the top, not the bottom.

    Earnest question. Is there enough lithium on the planet to turn around every vehicle in the United States to electric? Assume infrastructure for charging. Even then, do we even have the lithium, cobalt, manganese, nickel, and graphite or whatever else electric vehicle batteries need for it?

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    11 months ago

    Mildly interesting: this scene in the meme is actually about accidentally putting spicy pepperoni in the kids eyes.