You take weird showers my friend.
You still have people active in the current politics, who voted against counting rape in marriage as such.
The hippie movement was something like 1% of boomers… Maybe as high as 5%, but that’s doubtful
Most boomers spent the 60s beating the shit out of Civil Rights protestors and spitting on children because their schools were desegregated.
It’s just boomers want everyone to think they were cool so they lie about what they were like back then.
And they also lie and tell younger generations that they’ll also get racist, hateful, and stupid as they age. Yets facts don’t back that up.
Most boomers did none of those things because most people were just living their lives.
In Spain we have a “miracle”: the day after Franco died everyone was fighting against Franco the day before. Even the ones in the government.
“Spain went to bed being francoist and woke up ‘lifelong democrats’”.
And this is the same. Everyone was hippy and embraced free live and all that… even if they voted for Nixon and were against ‘mixing races’.
Most boomers spent the 60s beating the shit out of Civil Rights protestors and spitting on children because their schools were desegregated.
I think that’s just a Southern thing. Living in the North, my grandparents never discussed beating the shit out of civil rights protesters. Nor did they spout overtly racist things.
They were prejudice, but it was more of a I’ve never seen anyone with that color skin and it’s different so I’m uncomfortable.
Oh wow…
Yeah if they never told their grandkids they were huge pieces of shit, they most not have been. That absolutely proves they were part of the 1% of that generation actually on the right side of history.
It’s not like as a generation they’ve spent 60 years lying about what they were like back then…
The thing about racist relatives is that they DO SPOUT THAT SHIT AT HOME. Where do you think kids hear it first?
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I had a very similar experience, didn’t think my family was racist at all until I got engaged. Northerners just hide it.
Northerners just don’t engage if it’s not in their backyard. It’s a lot easier since there is a lower density of POC.
100%. Grew up in the Northeast, never experienced true racism in my family until I met my Arkansas relatives.
The hippies I knew born in the 50s just wanted world peace and to stop racism. And wanted their pot to be legalized. And to listen to their rock and roll. And not have their books banned and have safe birth control….whoa, it’s like yesterday is today all over again.
There was also a lot more dangerous cults running all over.
boomer weren’t just white people. There was a lot of activism to end racism and to get unions in place.
Their way of protesting was insane too. People were setting themselves on fire and purposely starving themselves. Self harm was a form of protest. They weren’t lying about that.
Just how old do you think boomers were in the '60s? The generation didn’t start until the baby boom after WWII (hence the name), so the oldest were at most 25 years old at the end of the decade.
The boomers didn’t join the Silent Generation in the role of civil rights reactionaries until the '70s or '80s.
People just like using “boomer” as a euphemism for “old.” Same type of person as those who have used “millennial” as a euphemism for “young” for the past decade plus.
And boomer seems to be just any white person with grey hair. It’s not even referencing a specific generation. It’s just a catch all for ‘all the old, white people I don’t like who have the right to vote for things’
The teens and young 20 somethings in the 60s were the counter culture. You know, “don’t trust anyone over 30”. So they were boomers.
There are so many quotes that I’ve seen, about how young people are more liberal, and as you get older, people tend to get more conservative.
… I’m an “elder” millennial… like, so early on in the millennial generation that I barely count as a millennial, myself and all my same-aged friends have pretty much been very liberal from a young age and I can confidently say, none of us have changed in this regard, despite all of us reaching 40.
All the shit they say about getting older and changing your mind might be true for some, but on the whole, it’s little more than someone flapping their jaw and making sounds. No basis in reality.
To give an easy example, all of my friends who are similarly aged, who attended college, have long since paid off any student loans we took out for college, even me, who did two diplomas (more than most) and had a difficult time getting into my field and earning a fair wage. Ask any of us about student loan forgiveness and we’re all supportive. Why punish a whole new generation of people just because we had to go through the terrible and broken system, and paid everything off ourselves? Why should they suffer like we did?
More than a few don’t even have children, so it’s not like their kids are going to see a benefit from it. Yet, we support it. Because that’s what we believe in.
I’m in my mid 50s now and I haven’t got more racist… I’ve got angrier that things that were wrong in my youth are still wrong now, angrier at politicians that claim to represent me spouting racist bullshit. But if anything I’m more left wing than I was, and I’m definitely more liberal than I was 10 years ago.
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As a tail end boomer, I spent the 60s watching sesame street, Hanna Barbara cartoons and attending kindergarten classes.
If you spent a decade attending kindergarten classes, then you may have an issue.
But dreaming about racism and destroying the environment for fun, right?
It depends. Some people were literally using the counterculture movement as a sort of cover for their insanity, you’ve got people like Manson that were turning hippies into serial killers.
Then you’ve got the polar opposite, of actual hippies staying dirty hippies and not caring about anything that might be a bother to anyone. The worlds most innocuous and mild people after Buddhist monks maybe, assuming you don’t mind the smell of patchouli oil.
So, it’s a whole range of people, as usual. Any attempts to lump them all together into a group and apply a universal set of traits to that whole group is dangerous, mistaken and oversimplified.
… said the person who wasn’t there.
Nono “boomers” are all inherently evil. It’s not ageism if everyone just joins the jerk.
I work in the trade industry. Most of these people are conservative boomers. The things these guys say are absolutely horrifying. It isnt just the older guys though. Its the blight of converativism. These dudes say things that sound like they should be said by someone 1000+ years ago or in Saudi Arabia or something. Im talking about not just racism, homophobia, mysoginy but also honor killings, reasons rape can be justified, flying into a blood rage because you feel another has offended your masculinity. Moving to rural America (even in the north) has been incredibly eye opening to how insanely backwards parts of our society is. You have no idea until you see it.
Most people who aren’t conservatives have no idea who they’re dealing with
I doubt most of the conservatives even really know.
The “trade” industry?
Trade (noun)
a skilled job, typically one requiring manual skills and special training.
“the fundamentals of the construction trade”
synonyms: craft, occupation, job, day job, career, profession, business, pursuit, living, livelihood, line, line of work, line of business, vocation, calling, walk of life, province, field, work, employment, métier
Usually someone who is in the trades calls it “the trades”. You never hear the term “trade industry” which is why I noted it
I’ve heard the term twice today actually.
Yeah it was a little weird wording. Im not in the trades. Trying to be vague because internet, but while I work WITH plumbers and HVAC specialists, and have previously worked in the field, Im not one myself.
Gotcha
How do you do, fellow workers?
what nationality are these boomers you are talking about? They all sound white and maybe from Texas or a small town that got caught in a time warp.
Casually mention that you’d no longer want to be referred to as “he/him but them/they” and watch the arteries burst lol
That was specifically hippies, who strongly tend to be pacifistic and egalitarian. Find an old hippie that kept the philosophy, they’re interesting to talk to. Pre-marital sex among the general population did increase thanks to new and readily available forms of birth control, but I’d expect that people in the '90s were probably having more casual sex than people in the '60s. Remember, hippies were a minority.
you gotta remember that the 60s had many different counter cultures and it wasn’t all just hippies. it’s also where conservatives like george will and paul weyrich came about.
Hippies were a small minority. They were just covered a lot by the media, but people seem to forget that Nixon won his re-election by a landslide.
being a boomer was prolly pretty good deal if you were a white heterosexual dude
They’re the loudest about how the good old days were just so good, and old, and days.
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Oh yeah if you read the scifi written during that time it’s just a big male fantasy of easy access to loose women.
That’s just the style of pulp.
It’s like the style of the classic western is a lone cowboy passing through, witnesses a bad thing and tries to exert justice but gets in trouble for it, also meets a girl, suffers a big setback and slowly claws his way up so his justice wins and he’s vindicated, and he moves on. Fin.
The cowboys are always broken but heroic, the love interests are always foils to play off or expose the cowboy’svreluctantly heroic nature, and there’s like a dozen extras to stand around, maybe punch the cowboy or shoot at him.
Misogynistic? It looks that way against our enlightened culture, sure. Formulaic? Mostly. But they’re still entertaining tomsome, right? And not for the misogyny any more than Days of Thunder is about tires.
Boomers in 1960 would have been, like, 15 years old at most. Remember that generation starts from the end of WW2 in the fall of 1945.
Just because you feel that, doesn’t make it true.
There’s no real difference between boomers and anyone else. Still using the same wetware as every other human for 10k years.
There will be rapey boomers, rapey gen x, rapey millenials and rapey gen z.
For example, Andrew Fucking Tate and his regressive masculinity bollocks is extremely popular all over
Nearly eight in ten 16-17 year-old boys in the UK have watched Tate’s content
https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/article/anti-toxic-masculinity-movement
And Rooshv is a genx. Brock Turner is millenial
as someone who lives in the UK, seeing Andrew Tate’s influence on kids is really depressing. those kids are gonna grow up as assholes not knowing any better
Yeah… but I think the question is: if Andrew Tate didn’t exist, how many of those assholes would be balanced well adjusted men. Not many.
You don’t think role models affect how kids develop?
Of course they do, but my point is, how many kids with parents who are good role models are attracted to Tate?
good point
When I was younger, I looked up to a guy who was a piece of shit like Andrew Tate. I started acting like him and treating people poorly. I lost good friends and relationships. I realized that I was losing them because I was being a piece of shit. So I stopped.
I guess my point is, even if someone is a piece of shit after looking up to Andrew Tate, they’re not hopeless.
PS: that guy ended up getting a girl pregnant accidentally. No idea where he is now, but I hope he’s not being a piece of shit to his kid.
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Lol, those kids are funny. They’ll be alright.
this made me want to game end
The difference is what was considered acceptable. My father in law (who is an asshole) told a story about how they would make comments to a woman he worked with about her boobs. This was in the 70s. She didn’t have much choice but to put up with it. There was no HR to go to, or they wouldn’t care. So they kept doing it.
Nowadays people are a lot more cautious at work. I know it’s just one setting, but that’s a great example how things have changed generationally.
Not commenting on people’s appearance at work is an 80/90s thing.
Yup. Just to emphasize the point – the term “sexual harassment” didn’t exist in the 1960s as a legal term. It only really came about in the mid-1970s as a result of feminist lawyers applying ideas from civil-rights law to gender and the workplace.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_harassment#Etymology_and_history
Just because some statistics show something like
Nearly eight in ten 16-17 year-old boys in the UK have watched Tate’s content
Doesn’t mean that every single one of those views were done in the same way.
I watched some crazy shit when I was 16 but I didn’t think Faces Of Death was anything more than entertainment.
You could just read the article I linked
Nearly eight in ten 16-17 year-old boys in the UK have watched Tate’s content, according to a survey by the anti-extremism group Hope Not Hate, with just over half viewing him in a positive light.
That is a seriously alarming number
