Some people, communicating via satellite phones, have described the attack as the “heaviest bombardment yet,” according to independent journalist Sharif Kouddous.
“People can’t call ambulances or civil defense. We are being bombed in an unprecedented manner,” said an unidentified journalist at a Gaza hospital, according to a translation by The Nation’s Palestinian correspondent, Mohammed El-Kurd. “The sky around us just lights up [with explosions], and no one knows what’s going on.”
I guess the silver lining of this shitshow happening right as I joined Lemmy is that its giving me a massive list of hateful idiots and servers to block right out of the gate
Things have gotten so out of hand. It is a shame.
Generals gathered in their masses
Just like witches at black masses
Evil minds that plot destruction
Sorcerer of death’s constructionIn the fields, the bodies burning
As the war machine keeps turning
Death and hatred to mankind
Poisoning their brainwashed mindsPoliticians hide themselves away
They only started the war
Why should they go out to fight?
They leave that role to the poor, yeahTime will tell on their power minds
Making war just for fun
Treating people just like pawns in chess
Wait till their judgement day comes, yeah!Now in darkness, world stops turning
Ashes where their bodies burning
No more war pigs have the power
Hand of God has struck the hourDay of judgement, God is calling
On their knees, the war pigs crawling
Begging mercy for their sins
Satan laughing, spreads his wingsNight bombings are always known to be the most accurate.
Yeah - we should be glad that weapons technology actually evolved to a point, where carpet fire bombings of cities like Dresden or Hamburg (WW2) are a thing of the past.
Don’t forget Tokyo! Those we’re all war crimes interestingly enough.
Oddly the siege of Gaza may very well fall into that category with the amount of ordinance that’s been dropped, although the terminology would likely be different due to the guided aspect.
Carpet bombing of cities, towns, villages, or other areas containing a concentration of civilians is considered a war crime[5] as of Article 51 of the 1977 Protocol I of the Geneva Conventions.[6][7][8]
The term obliteration bombing is sometimes used to describe especially intensified bombing with the intention of destroying a city or a large part of the city. The term area bombing refers to indiscriminate bombing of an area and also encompasses cases of carpet bombing, including obliteration bombing.Perhaps it might even get it’s own unique term someday. I do find it quite similar from what I’m reading on the first instance of carpet bombing though, the bombing of Barcelona
Along with the variance of the times between each individual attack, this had a demoralizing effect on the civilian population, which suffered prolonged anxiety quite out of proportion to the number of bombs dropped over a long period of time. Coupled with the fact that there was little discernible military value in the choice of targets within the city, and the cessation of the attacks for no apparent reason
Edit: sorry meant to add this as well
The Italian bombers dropped 44 tons of bombs.[7] Rather than aiming at military targets, the Italians intended to destroy industrial areas of the city and demoralize the Republican side, in what some authors have described as the first aerial carpet bombing in history.[1] Their targets and declared objectives were military warehouses, arms factories, trains with soldiers, and the port, but civil buildings, cinemas, consulates, and theatres were also hit or destroyed during the bombing.[8]
It’s probably worth pointing out that the Geneva Convention article you’re quoting was written a couple decades after both Tokyo and Barcelona events.
I guess take it up with the Wikipedia editors if you don’t like it?
I’m not saying it’s not a war crime according to the definition. I was just pointing out that the specific crimes precede the definition by a couple of decades.
The world is watching. No justice, no peace.
the world has never truly been at peace though - maybe prior to the evolution of bacteria, but I doubt it.
The natural world is chaotic and violent, so that means we as thinking humans who know what it is to suffer pain and the loss of loved ones, must not only add to that violence and chaos but also devise new, sophisticated ways of inflicting suffering. But also don’t forget that we’re better and more civilized than animals. /s
Until I experienced violence myself, I was unwilling to process the logic or think it through. Then I lived a portion of my life where I was in physical danger from very bad people, and I was forced to think it through.
Being prepared to retaliate is the most effective defense against those who are not sympathetic to your needs, whom you cannot avoid. It’s why animals demo their weapons when cornered. It’s why plants “waste” energy producing toxins that harm would-be eaters.
Every organism has weapons, and evolution’s been optimizing for over a billion years. Like, a little flap of skin no longer used is selected out over the course of a million years because it provides a disadvantage against those not wasting the energy to grow the little flap of skin. But nature spends energy putting claws on kittens. Why?
It’s logical; it’s just ugly and unpleasant to acknowledge. The only time people acknowledge it is when their circumstances change such that not acknowledging it is worse. ie when they are faced with the necessity of dealing with violence.
Israel is no better than Russia.
Much as I loathe Putin, he has yet to do anything this savage.
A poll published Friday found that only 49 percent of Israelis want to hold off on the ground offensive against Hamas, down from 65 percent last week.
Disappointing to say the least.
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Entirely predictable though. Unlike previous rounds between Israel and Gaza, they haven’t been targeting the rocket infrastructure. Hamas and PIJ have been bombing Israeli cities daily since October 7th. It doesn’t get much coverage because most are intercepted and Israel intentionally censors most documentation of it - but you can find it in the liveblogs of most Israeli news sources.
The Hamas and IDF aligned telegram channels have both been remarkably consistent about cheering when about our munitions landing in their territory and decrying the reverse.
but understandable - after all, there’s still quite a few hostages that the terrorists are holding. hopefully they’re being treated humanely and not, you know, tortured & etc but terrorists thrive on terrorism…
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One tragedy doesn’t justify the other tragedy, or make it less important. It’s not a competition.
One tragedy can’t justify another. But one is causing the other.
I’m pretty sure Aliens exist and there are big signs around our solar system that say something like “Avoid that system, murderous apes”.
I hope all the Gazan civilians set free from any form of violence from anyone…
As anyone else. But as a species we don’t seem to get it that violence achieves nothing.
All rights are won through violence.
Sure, and look how many rights the most violent places on Earth enjoy.
Big mouth for violence until you or your loved ones happen to be under the path of a bomb.
Because if you play the violence game, you will always find someone more ruthless and/or well equipped than you are.
So America will topple, when??
What you said has no basis in reality at all. the USA was founded on violence. Canada was founded on violence. Mexico was founded on violence. All of south america was founded on violence. India fought a war against British occupation and won. Etc. etc. etc.
You seem to be conflating all violence with political violence and that’s not a mistake you should be making.
Hell, the Magna Carta, the foundation on which all common law resides, was founded on violence.
Oh, I’m sure America will topple, sooner or later. Who knows? In one or two Trumps, perhaps. Or maybe it will take 50 years, or a century or two, until civilization itself collapses because of unchecked climate change. History teaches us that all empires fail, and there’s no reason to believe that history will stop at the U.S. of A.
And obviously there’s no denying that violence has always been a driving factor in history. But saying that it doesn’t mean saying that it is desirable. Sure violence brought us here, but, unless you’re a psycho billionnaire, you will have to admit that this is far from a perfect world.
I’m not saying violence is completely avoidable (I stand with Ukrainians’ right to defend their country in any way) but maybe it could be that we can try applying it less and less.
Well there’s violence and there’s the capacity for violence. The most effective thing is the capacity for violence. The actual violence isn’t useful; except as a means to prove one’s capacity.
The best is to achieve that without having to actually hurt anyone.
Yeah, tell that to Gandhi
Tell what to Gandhi?
During World War I (1914–1918), nearing the age of 50, Gandhi supported the British and its allied forces by recruiting Indians to join the British army, expanding the Indian contingent from about 100,000 to over 1.1 million.[39][37] He encouraged Indian people to fight on one side of the war in Europe and Africa at the cost of their lives.[37] Pacifists criticised and questioned Gandhi, who defended these practices by stating, according to Sankar Ghose, “it would be madness for me to sever my connection with the society to which I belong”
ALL rights are won through VIOLENCE
Nope, they are not
Unless you consider voting full engage civilian violence
Name one that wasn’t won through violence. Hell, even the Civil Rights Act was written in blood.
All of the civil rights in my country were slowly incorporated by democratic means through the last century.
Edit, this includes paid vacations, paid maternity leaves for both mother and father, female vote, abolishing slavery, public health, free secular public education (12 years obligatory + university), unemployment insurance, universal income*, abortion
Edit2: that doesn’t mean that all rights are won without violence and my country had a lot of violence, but it was about who was holding the power. Rights were voted through the decades almost independently of who was in power.
Rights are not won by voting.
