Does warmer mean temperature? Color? Something else?

  • FishFace@lemmy.world
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    It’s the “of one type” that gets me - to me that says I should be examining either the outdoor or the indoor pictures, not comparing between those two types of picture. So I should somehow pick the warmest outdoor or warmest indoor pictures.

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        I would write it “Select all the images of the type which is warmer than the other type of image”

  • Mandy@sh.itjust.works
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    The most surprising thing is how you and some commenters dont see how obvious and dead simple the answer is

    Like, should they show you a block of ice and a fire next time?

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      Something that’s obvious to you isn’t necessarily obvious to everyone.

      • Ms. ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.ml
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        Am neurodivergent, didn’t even occur to me they’d be talking about snow vs indoors. I thought because it is a visual test they meant color temp which for me registered as the middle left, center bottom, and maybe an argument for bottom right.

      • geogle@lemmy.world
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        Warm could also translate to “cozy” or overall “hue”. Neither would necessarily pick the indoor photos. I don’t think you need to be neurodivergent to be confused, maybe just a little more artistically minded.

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        Thanks for reminding me of my neurodivergence, I couldn’t figure it out either.

        I was starting to think “ok this one looks lit and cozy, and how am I supposed to tell how well insulated these houses are?”

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      More surprising is how apparently some of you haven’t encountered captchas that employ nuance, and what seems like the obvious answer sometimes isn’t.

      • Mandy@sh.itjust.works
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        my man, its a blizzard and indoors, what part of that has any more nuance than being beaten over the head with the answer

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          The different snow images have different color tones, some matching that of the example image. The center image has a cool color tone, which doesn’t match. Captchas are made to defeat AI logic, so sometimes it’s not the obvious thing. It could very well possibly be selecting all images that match the color tone, something a bot may not work out. It could be just selecting indoor images. I wouldn’t know for certain until I got one of these and succeeded or failed. Personally I think it would be too easy for a bot to just ignore all images that have snow, or are mostly white, because that doesn’t resemble the example image at all.

          edit: and in case it needs to be said, getting beaten over the head by anything doesn’t involve nuance. That’s the opposite of nuance.

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            There’s a sample picture of a living room, then pictures of living rooms and snowy houses.

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              Yes, thank you for your entirely original response, and demonstrating again that many people lack depth in their thinking. Honestly it’s sad that you replied to that explanation with this.

              I’m also starting to believe that some of you don’t understand what “sometimes the obvious looking answer isn’t the correct one” means.

          • BluesF@feddit.uk
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            Captchas aren’t made to “defeat AI logic”, the human detection happens in part outside the picture selection part. The picture selection is for training AI. In this case you are training an AI to distinguish the (potentially abstract) concept of warmth.

          • moody@lemmings.world
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            I couldn’t get past “pick the smallest animal”

            There was a large picture of a hummingbird, and a tiny panda. Both choices were wrong, apparently. They probably meant that I should pick the pettiest animal.

      • Honytawk@lemmy.zip
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        The thing is that a captcha is made to be solvable by almost anyone.

        So whatever you think the answer is, is probably one of the many correct responses.

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      Exactly. Not that you would need it, but it even gives an example image showing the inside of a room lol

  • dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    If you’re wondering why does it seem so strange, it’s because the learning model is actually hyper sophisticated now. It knows what a bus, a bicycle, and a sailboat looks like, now it’s asking for comparative assessments of complex images. It clearly understands that snow is covering houses and that snow is cold.

      • Butt Pirate@reddthat.com
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        It isn’t supposed to be a good user experience, it’s supposed to train their AI models, and they figured out how to get you to do it for free.

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    I worry about commenters in this post that seem to take this as some sort of highly complex problem verging on philosophical rather than a silly little riddle to go through as fast as possible to get to the primary part of website.

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    Great, now they expect you to be thinking about lighting temperature terms. People who don’t do photography or haven’t read light bulb boxes won’t know wtf this means.

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        The example shows an interior room which would indeed be warmer. There are two which could be what they want you to select.

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        Are you sure about that? Because I’m not. I would have to actually get this captcha and succeed or fail.

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            Yet different snow images have warm or cool color tones, some matching that of the example image, and the center shot appears to be a cooler color tone. You could be correct, but you could also be wrong. Again, it seems like some of you haven’t encountered captchas that employ nuance, where sometimes the obvious looking answer isn’t the correct one.

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    Only number 3 conveys the concept of warmth to me. A wintry scene contrasted with orange tinged light visible through house windows is a classic trope to evoke warmth and cosiness. The interiors are undoubtedly a physically higher temperature at the location of the photographer, but that is not being communicated visually by the picture.

    What “of one type” means, I have no clue.

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    Numbering left to right, top to bottom, I think the answer should be 3, 5, 6, 9.

    Fuck you for trying to get me to train your AI. If you want my work, fucking pay me.

    Edit: To be clear, I think those answers would be most likely to almost seem correct to an alrgorithm, but actually break their objective for training.