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    Losing users is fine as long as a steady core remains. The summer growth was explosive, so some shrinking is expected.

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      Also I’m sure there were a lot of accounts made on different intances before people settled into one account

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        Absolutely. I had like 5 or 6 accounts created in that period, some on instances I don’t even remember. Now I just have this one and my lemmynsfw for scientific research.

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    Now I’m sure that the number of users is lower than a few months ago, but I wonder how many people are just lurking, never commenting/ posting.

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      Honestly I love the Lemmy. I do check in every day, but I don’t often comment or post, I’ll admit it.

      Then again I never really posted on Reddit either.

      I tried Mastodon, I actively did, and I still lurk from time to time—logically it makes the most sense for me to use professionally—but there’s something I don’t just like about it. Probably that simply it isn’t my platform of choice—or maybe it is that I would technically need to use it professionally to replace FB and IG.

      There’s so much social media fatigue. I just want to relax and goof around, doing it respectfully of course.

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      Probably a lot, lurking is how I use both platforms. There’s the 90-9-1% rule for a reason

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        I sometimes have a twinge of guilt about it too. When I was younger and had more free time, I would spend time on actual submissions and not just comment. But I’m too old and tired for that shit these days.

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      Also, I imagine a lot of people created profiles on more than one instance while making the transition and then abandoned the others.

      I originally started on lemmy.world but now just use fedit.uk

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            I didn’t use the catchphrase I think you’re referring to (Eric Andre?) but even if I did…the post I replied to is a generic catchphrase meme…so your point is kind of moot lol

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              The post title is the new mantra since the Reddit exodus, connected to very relevant content. It’s not just a low quality comment void of any nuance and designed solely to capture upvotes from the lowest common denominator…kinda like what they do on Reddit.

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                Dude, that’s exactly what this post is lol

                Reddit sucks and we all know it. That’s why the majority of us are here

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                Catchphrases have cultural significance of having a shared understanding of the intent, both delivered straight and ironically. Your attitude is not conducive to a shared experience.

                Or are you suggesting that you never use quotes of any kind, regardless of the source?

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                  I’m suggesting that using a catchphrase as just a generic comment that could essentially be used on any meme is a low effort attempt at gaining reputation points. There was no message conveyed with it, no value was imparted to the discussion, and now we’re talking about how I’m the one with the non-conducive attitude and not about the actual subject…

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    There’s enough content for me here, and metric FUCKTONS less toxicity; so there’s jackshit Spez could offer, to get me back.

    BTW, I detest the repost bots linking directly back to that cesspool. At least provide archive links, just to fuck with Spez’s engagement numbers.

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      metric FUCKTONS less toxicity

      I really wish this were true but we are absolutely sliding in the direction of more toxicity and I think it’s a large part of why users are leaving. What’s more is that there’s not nearly enough actually insightful commenting to make up for it. Reddit has absolutely lost a lot of that too but you can usually still find something on the field of bullshit. Very frequently I can read 20-30 comments here and not see a single insightful or original thought.

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      In general my posts here get less upvotes and comments than when I used to post on Reddit, but the coversations here tend to be more relaxed, constructive and lasting for longer.

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      And if anyone misses the toxicity (of our city, of our ciiiiity) from Reddit, we can totally emulate that here!

      Ummm… I disagree! You’re a butthole because my opinion is different. Also, I didn’t actually do any research, which makes you a double-butthole.

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      and metric FUCKTONS less toxicity;

      Is that true though?

      We have huge communities that are either completely unmoderated or have huge swaths of “the mods are asleep” time. And the assholes have picked up on it.
      I definitely suffer more verbal abuse on Lemmy than I ever did on Reddit.

      I’m sticking around for other reasons, but definitely not the warm and cuddly large communities.

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        Yea I don’t know where the “reddit so toxic, Lemmy so good” stuff is coming from. Reddit was never toxic in recent years, just generic as shit with the same comments everywhere.

        Lemmy has far more… Passionate users, to put it kindly.

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          Reddit was never toxic in recent years

          Nah dude, you can’t be serious. It obviously varies between the communities and the bubble you created for yourself on Reddit. But even in the smaller somewhat niche subs I frequented had people acting toxic and hostile. And it became more and more in recent years. And I am definitely not talking about all the manospehre, incel and cringe subs. Those are on a whole other level of toxic and at least as bad as similar algorithmic bubbles on Twitter.

          There is also toxicity on Lemmy, too. But you can just manage what you consume so much better. Never encountered Hexbear stuff outside of drama posts for example.

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          In my experience, every single time I ever posted anything on Reddit I would get like 1 or 2 genuine nice and or helpful replies and the test would be anger and hate. Here that does happen but it’s much rarer, at least to me, so far

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          From my experience reddit has gotten waaaaay more toxic over the last few years. And that toxicity was only increasing. I had fairly carefully curated my subscriptions there too, so it wasn’t like I was signed up to only shitty subs.

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        that has been the opposite of my experience.

        and i frequently bring up controversial topics here that would get some bigger communities on reddit rabid.

        and when people respond negatively, they are very rarely an asshole about it.

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        Curious. May I ask, what are people verbally abusing you for? I did a quick skim over your recent comments and I found nothing really controversial, my profile is probably more controversial than yours and I have yet to receive a single grumpy message

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        Block those communities or ask the admins of your instance to defederate if there’s not much redeeming content from the offending instance(s).

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          I’ve unsubbed, but the community in question is a major source of content so I’m not about to block it. I just treat the comments like I do on YouTube.

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        No. Lemmy had a lull in toxicity during the fuck Spez rush, but my toxic meter reads way higher here than on reddit (although any anonymous community is going to lean toxic).

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          Right?

          And also, I noticed that when I decide to be a dick (not proud of it, but hey what can you do), I always get away with it. On Reddit eventually a mod wakes up and takes charge.

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              On Lemmy, the modlog is not hidden and is open to all.

              I don’t know how you’re seeing it on sh.it.just.works, but on lemmy.world it’s a link in the lower right of every page, down at the very end where it says

              BE: 0.18.5 Modlog Legal Instances Docs Code join-lemmy.org

              To see removed comments you would sort by action. Or if it’s your own comments that are gone, you would sort by user. And then just browse.

              It’s sorted by reverse date, so newest are first, but if the removal is within the last day it’ll still be in the first couple of pages.

              I also am fairly certain (but don’t quote me on this) that if you want to see the removed comments for a specific community you should access the modlog on that page, to ensure that you’re seeing the modlog for the instance hosting that community and not the modlog for your home instance.

              On reddit I always would get a notice and explanation at least.

              No, Reddit did not always inform you when they removed your comments; far from it. In the bigger subs it’s actually rare, and anymore they just remove AND shadowban you. Removed comments used to be easy to find, but these days post-APIcalypse you need to run your Reddit user ID through the Reveddit tool to see all your removed comments there.

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              Thee comments sort of vanish but not quite, and the reply guys still seem to be able to find them somehow. There’s probably something wonky about how mod actions are federated.

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          I think consenting opinions are even less welcome here than on Reddit. Which is wild, considering Reddit already wasn’t great with it.

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        I don’t really get verbal abuse but I feel like there are a lot more posts that I click on with the intent of commenting only to read the existing comments and deciding not to comment so I don’t wade into pile of shit.

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      I find Lemmy quite a bit more toxic then Reddit and that is bothering me. Was on a post where a cop was full up ambushed and murdered and every single post was praising it. And there was over a hundred posts so not just a couple of wing nuts. Then you got the tankies and a great number of immature posts. Then you got the extreme left leaning slant attitude on every subject that pretty much creates echo chambers along with mods that will shadow ban. Technically working well, administratively and quality wise the experience is pretty low.

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      Maybe it’s just my feed, but I miss the diversity, lemmy is biased towards tech-nerd people

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    Not very surprising to lose users after the big intake from June. If that were the only intake we’d ever get I would be worried but we all know that Reddit will continue to do user-hostile things. Lemmy now exists as a permanent lifeboat for those who get fed up with Reddit over time, and the next time something big happens we’ll be better prepared.

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      We need more “subs” like wallstreetbets, ama, LPT… I’d engage more if there were more comunities I were interested in and they regularily showed up on my feed

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        I feel like for subs like those to pop up, the barrier to entry needs to drop really low. We lean even more technical than reddit did now, and to encourage subs like those, you kinda need a healthy population of non-technical people.

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        These will probably need to grow naturally again. We have enough techy users to carry tech-related discussions, but we probably don’t have enough users to carry niche communities yet. By gaining more users of any kind, techy or otherwise, we have better odds of gaining people with a secondary interest in those niche communities. It’ll take some time, but the Fediverse is much more permanent, and investments here will pay off theoretically forever. Even if another open platform supersedes Lemmy, it will be easy to port our community over to it.

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    There’s not QUITE enough content here for my short-ass attention span, but I DO come here first and I’ve stopped all posting on the other place.

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      I DO come here first and I’ve stopped all posting on the other place.

      I post here first and then cross-post on Reddit to drive more traffic here :)

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      I’ve gone from 20+ hours weekly on a third party app, to 30 minutes weekly on old.reddit. it’s such a shame, because I was really enjoying the niche communities and especially the f1 subreddit.

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      Without RIF, I don’t ever go back when mobile. I also don’t spend much time on my desktop leisurely, so I’m barely there these days.

      With Jerboa, I’m here multiple times a day.

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      I see a little bit while moderating there, but as soon as I open the comment sections on some posts I lose interest

      A lot of the subs I used to read are now very low quality and toxic with users getting into fights and rule breaking content staying up

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    Isn’t it pretty much expected? There was a massive boost during the API controversy then it dropped off as the number of active users stabilised. I don’t think Lemmy will immediately replace Reddit like people want it to, just a slow gradual migration of communities. After all the migration from Digg to Reddit took years. I’ve got no doubt that Reddit will make more dumb decisions that will push more over to Lemmy.

    Honestly I just want communities like /r/framework to move over and some UK subs like /r/frugaluk and /r/casualuk then I’m happy.

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    We have already matured significantly since the initial rush. There will be another rush, and we’ll be in an even better state then.

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    Well even if I wanted to go back to Reddit, I couldn’t use it without a decent mobile app, and all of those no longer exist.

    Communities don’t spring up fully formed, they grow over time with many rises and falls in activity along the way. Lemmy is still young and we can all do our part to help it.

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      And using the mobile web site is a pain in the ass, too. Won’t stop nagging me to use the app. No, I do not want to use your shitty app!

      At this point I only use it when a thread comes up in a search result, or occasionally to check /r/buildapcsales

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      Yeah the thing about Lemmy is that people immediately expect it to be a reddit clone with all the same niche communities. Reddit didn’t start off with thousands of communities on Day 1. It started off as Reddit. Then they added NSFW and pics. It took decades to grow. People that expect Lemmy to appear with all those same communities overnight but it’s just not gonna happen. You’ve got to give it time. Instead of posting in your favorite football team’s community, you might have to post to the NFL community. Eventually as we grow, more niche communities will spring up.

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    Agreed, I’m sticking with the fediverse for my social media no matter how small it gets because corporate social media is just that incredibly toxic.

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    Yeah, I’ve been spending more time on Discord lately, but I’m sure not going back to reddit. Tbh I’ve really disconnected from spaces where I was/would be exposed to right wing extremists and hatred of me. Instagram obviously has it’s problems, but the algorithm won’t allow me–a trans lesbian stoner–to view hateful content without a fight. If I need to see some fringe beliefs and content, I’ll dive head first into the Hexbear pool!