Ukraine has warned it is already being forced to downsize some military operations because of a drop-off in foreign aid.

Top general Oleksandr Tarnavskyi said troops faced ammunition shortages along the “entire front line”, creating a “big problem” for Kyiv.

It comes as billions of dollars of US and EU aid have been held up amid political wrangles.

Ukraine said it hoped to boost its own ammunition industry with western help.

But it relies heavily on western supplies, particularly on deliveries of long-range missiles and air defence systems, to fight occupying Russian forces.

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    If Americans can shoot up a school, I’m sure they can shoot up a Republicans office.

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    I’m surprised the military industrial complex isn’t just loaning them the ordinance they were buying. Ukraine is slated to win easily if they can keep supplied. Most likely financial aid will resume from the US and EU. So those loans won’t take long to pay off. And then the industry has another nation to buy their bombs.

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        Do you like, have any information that would show why this isn’t happening due to more complicated details? Or did you just post in order to talk down to someone without making any salient points whatsoever?

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          Do I need specific info to recognize that “the military industrial complex” is not a single homogenous entity that goes around loaning and selling to whomever independent of any oversight, national security concerns, or contractual obligations?

          Are you referring to some “the CEO” of the MIC? Keyword here is “complex” as in various uncoordinated entities… not a single block selling weapons the gov contracted for manufacture to anyone on the side.

          Just think a little… You do realize congress purchased those weapons, it’s up to the US gov to decide what to do with them. Lockheed doesn’t just walk over and double deal a stealth fighter to the highest bidder like a car salesman with a quota…

          It’s shit like this that gets people discouraged and missing the reality of our support for Ukrainian independence. It’s not a MIC thing as much as some people would like to simplistically align our support for Ukraine with Bush’s war in Iraq. It’s misguided and potentially dangerous to misconstrue this shit like that.

          You describe a scenario divorced from reality, ignorant of national security, ignorant of who owns what yet you’re asking me for specifics?

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      Maybe because Ukraine isn’t going to “win” any time soon or easily as you believe?

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      That’s not extremely profitable though. It’s only “very” profitable. The US doesn’t move for “very”.

      Let’s first slow down, instead use these tax payer funds to add middle men, like US corporations and fund them instead to help Ukraine. Much more money for the chums from the club.

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      I would think much of their supply chain involves the use of US military logistics infrastructure. If the US military is prevented from funding these pipelines, they may find it cost prohibitive to even get the supplies there.

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      At best UKR will be able to maintain a stalemate with RUS.

      RUS is tapping into alternatives to get what they need and want. Which for the most part is currently working out.

      UKR relies heavily on the US-EU for funding and support. That support is inconsistent and will fluctuate but will mostly remain relatively standard or low unless something media worthy happens.

      When and how much they’re are funded depends on public opinion and the media, whose interest changes.

      eg. Afghanistan with the Afghan women and girls, and how support is significantly being redirected to Israel-Palestine conflict.

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        Either Russia pays better or they’re just holding out hope that being contrarian to Democrats, regardless of the issue, will win them another term.

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          R’s are beholden to the dumbest, meanest people in the US. The MIC knows thus and knows they will get their money one way or another.

          If Ukraine falls, Putin won’t stop there, for example.

          Getting their paid for politicians reelected is more important.

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    Yeah, but the GOP will be getting a lot of money from Russian cutouts for this betrayal of freedom & democracy.

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      Removed under rule 6, 3 day ban for multiple rule 6 violations.

      Take the time to read the sidebar.

      “Rule 6: Memes, spam, other low effort posting, reposts, advocating violence, off-topic, trolling, offensive, regarding the moderators or meta in content may be removed at any time.”

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      Imagine a situation where an American assumes the universe revolves around the USA—now that’s the real surprise party!

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        This situation somewhat does. Yes there’s also been Orban being a fuck about EU help, but armament wise the US has been the primary supplier, and if US aid wasn’t running out, Ukraine wouldn’t be facing these issues, regardless of whether the EU or even other actors also could’ve prevented this.

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        The US is the world’s armoury. Sure, there are other nations that could help, but everyone knows it’s the US that Kyiv is hoping for

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Top general Oleksandr Tarnavskyi said troops faced ammunition shortages along the “entire front line”, creating a “big problem” for Kyiv.

    But it relies heavily on western supplies, particularly on deliveries of long-range missiles and air defence systems, to fight occupying Russian forces.

    A report by the Estonian defence ministry said Kyiv needed a minimum of 200,000 artillery shells a month to retain an edge against Russia.

    Speaking to the BBC, Ukraine’s Deputy Defence Minister Ivan Havryliuk said the country was ramping up production of kamikaze drones “to compensate [for] the lack of artillery shells”.

    However, the situation has signalled to Russia that international support for Ukraine is weakening - and there are concerns that by switching its economy onto a war footing, Moscow can outlast the West in this battle of attrition.

    Kalle Kirss, Estonia’s defence adviser to Nato, told the BBC that Europe needed to commit funding to support Ukraine.


    The original article contains 668 words, the summary contains 151 words. Saved 77%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

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      No surprise.

      1st year of most wars RUS is in. They’re crap in but afterwards they become a force to be reckoned with.

      US-EU should have given UKR all the military equipment that UKR requested in the beginning instead of it being slowly given.

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        They probably can’t become a major force like that without full mobilization, and Putin has shown he’s unwilling to do that. For good reason–it’d probably end with him committing suicide by three bullets to the back of the head. They’re not going to be able to mount any kind of new offensive without that.

        At the same time, Ukraine can’t mount any kind of counter-offensive without material support. The scenario here is either Ukraine puts up with losing territory in a negotiated peace, or things quiet down into border skirmishes for the next year with Russia sending missiles into Kyiv every few months.

        Despite the headlines, there isn’t much chance of Ukraine outright losing. Russia can’t mobilize enough to do that.

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    I just donated to United 24 again. If some governments are having internal issues, one can help Ukraine defend from Russian invaders directly.