At one previous company where I worked I started a karate dojo, and I gave voluntarily classes. About 40% of the company regularly trained with me and we all got ripped, it was awesome
That’s a great way to do it, not tie work bonuses to it.
Unless the company is going to allow me to run in company time or pay me my base pay plus overtime on top of the bonus that’s a hard fuck no from me.
Company wants my time, they better damn well pay for it.
ETA. Thinking about it more, nah this whole running for your bonus is bullshit and I wouldn’t do it even if they paid me overtime since running/exercising unless your job is directly related to it, running has nothing to do with work performance which the bonus is based on.
So just don’t take the bonus, then? Easy enough. Bonuses aren’t part of your normal wages. They’re given, not owed, not unless you do whatever they say you have to in order to earn them. So if you don’t feel like doing whatever it is that your company demands in order to receive the bonus, then just don’t do it and don’t get the money.
You should probably run miles each month anyway so maybe you won’t die in your sixties from heart disease.
"Oh hey, thanks to you and your team for working all that overtime these past few months to make sure the project was done on-time and turning this potential loss of a client around.
However, we noticed that you and your team didn’t run enough during these months so we’re going to have to dock your bonus for the year but thanks for all of your hard work for the company."
But yeah, just don’t take the bonus.
Yeah, what’s wrong with you and your stupid wheelchair? If you want a bonus, you should get up out of that wheelchair and start running on your stumps!
Yeah I wouldn’t even want to play video games if my bonus was contingent on it. Way to suck the joy out of something positive, corpos
Honestly, giving bonuses for employees having healthy habits seems fine. It’s not like anyone is entitled to bonuses, they’re not “withholding” bonuses or anything, they’re just giving extra incentives to live well.
I’m disabled, if I worked at that company they would absolutely be withholding something from me, as well as plain old discriminating against me for my disability.
Fuck this hyper-capitalist ableist bullshit, and fuck cheering it on.China is “hyper-capitalist”? 🤔
Yes.
Fuck employees with cancer or other medical conditions!
If it’s on company time, it’s fine.
My work is somehow promoting sport over lunch break (well there is always an Ass hole setting a meeting at 13) but it’s lunch break, not work time. However, during that time we build connections with other employees, talk about work, so basically free cross department team building for the company
I don’t think hungry employees will tolerate that for long. Or maybe it’s a way for higher ups to get rid of “possible nuisances”
Jeff Bezos: It’s inside the Amazon warehouse, while working.
You are not allowed to stop moving or eliminate your waste. It’s because we care about you
Other than the disability, privacy and disability concerns already raised- Running is SO boring. What if you prefer other cardio activity or a mix of strength training and cardio? Why does it have to be running?
I also can’t see how this doesn’t open them up to lawsuits for any injuries incurred from a sprained ankle to a blown out knee or a heart attack. I’m a manager in a large company, and I got a bit nervous at some of the offsite activities, and those were mild things like dunk tanks. Plus I bet the entertainment company or venue carries that insurance. This is literally making the run part of the job, and it’s a relatively dangerous activity.
It’s in China… You might end up in a work camp for getting injured and speaking up about it.
You and most people in this thread are right but I’m sure that can’t be a concern in their legal framework, otherwise they wouldn’t have come up with the idea.
The article says climbing and walking are both accepted.
What about fu-- uhh jumping?
Fu-- uhh jumping Jack is fine as well.
It’s still a bit of a mockery to ask employees on wheelchairs to get up and walk if they want their bonuses.
Running has always been where I was able to just let my mind wonder. It’s like meditating while exercising.
chairman of a company that makes paper
Michael Scott energy
Employers controlling their workers “time off” is old fashioned dystopia.
It’s entirely voluntarily (hence bonus), and has huge benefits for your self. I fail to see what the problem is.
My company does the same thing, and so do many others.
Not all of us can run. Simple as that.
Start by walking?
What about people on wheelchairs, numbnuts?
I’m sure they offer alternatives. Not everything is so black and white.
Our companies in particular is just 30 exercise minutes so you can do whatever you want to get your heart rate up.
Sex. I want my company to pay me to sex. I feel like I could totally get behind that. Sexually.
I can’t run because of a physical disability.
If I worked for this company I’d already be calling a lawyer, and I bet firms would be begging to take the case.
You are entitled to reasonable accommodation upon your request, nothing more. The article mentioned a couple alternatives to running, indicating the company is willing to meet the specific needs of employees. The article may not have explicitly mentioned your specific needs, but that does not mean that the company would refuse reasonable accommodation.
The only thing that would happen from you calling your lawyer is you’d owe your lawyer money.
Yes, firms would be begging to take your case. On retainer. You’d be hard pressed to find one to take it on contingency.
So… An ADA suit for discrimination waiting to happen then… 🙄🤦♀️
Chinese company. No idea what disability discrimination laws they have in place, if any.
Fair (and I’d actually just come back to edit that I realise this isn’t in the US), but the point still stands - this is blatant discrimination, no matter where it’s happening…
For sure. I’d be first in line to complain if I worked there… assuming my mobility impairment didn’t get in the way of that 😅
Lol, same… 😬
ADA only requires “reasonable accommodation”. A couple alternatives to running were presented, indicating the company is willing to cooperate with the specific needs of workers. That the article fails to mention any specific accommodations for handicapped workers does not mean that such accommodations won’t be made.
A blanket policy covering all disabled employees is not ADA compliant. Accommodations are supposed to be made on a case-by-case basis, based on the specific needs of the specific employee. Without knowing the capabilities and needs of a specific employee, we cannot determine what would constitute a reasonable accommodation.
Yes, strictly applying this policy to disabled employees would be discriminatory, but there is precisely zero evidence suggesting that it will be applied that way.
100km/mo = 3.33km/day or A little over 2 miles a day.
Which sounds do-able if you’re fit and healthy. But what if you’re disabled or partially disabled?
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If you can’t do 2 miles a day you are nowhere even close to the realm of a healthy person. Like not even within a 100 miles of healthy
Or disabled. I found out yesterday I get to go back into a total contact cast for a foot deformity. :( I currently can’t walk to the mailbox, forget about two miles.
Reality is you dont want to run every day. You can. But you should not for the sake of your joints.
Realistically this should be 6-8kms, 3-4 times a week.
The amount of bonus a worker gets is based on the number of miles they complete each month.
I understand what they’re trying to do, but this is just not equitable. You’d have to figure out how to handle this for people who cannot run (such as wheelchair users). This greatly favours those with more free time and less obligations (such as people with no kids). It favours those already in shape and those who have fewer health issues.
This will favour those who already have it better off, which is the opposite of equity.
Good idea in theory, but I don’t like the model where it’s applied based on output.
What is the good part in theory? I can’t see how what/how much exercise, if a person chooses/is able to do it at all, is relevant to their job? Especially in a company that makes paper??
If employers want their employees to be happier and healthier they need to pay them better (for their work, not for whatever unrelated and out of hours activity they decide to “reward”) and give them more time off, anything else is profit seeking bullshit.
Yeah good point. I should have said “interesting idea in theory.” I fully agree with you
Lin’s plan has faced plenty of mockery on Chinese social media sites, but Guangzhou Daily says his company’s staff are happy with the bonus scheme. Or maybe they’re just too frightened/exhausted to complain about having to run for their money.
Maybe his employees are all marathoner.
Clearly they are trying to get their employees to be fitter and healthier but this seems a bit ham-fisted. I’m also betting that the real policy is more nuanced than portrayed here.
You don’t even need to be disabled to be unable to run or do heavy exercises. There are several conditions that can make running painful or impossible, like arthritis, athrosis, hernias, respiratory problems, etc.
Tying the bonuses to how fit you are is straight up evil. I highly doubt the boss will pay for medical expenses of people that push themselves too far to get the most money, who, ironically, might effectively end up losing that extra money.
Workers record their exercises and distances using fitness apps.
Clearly nobody will find a way to cheat that, no siree!
Walking is one of the fitness activities people that are not disabled can walk.
ITT: people who couldn’t want a mile if they were PAID TO.
welcome to 2023, year of the obesity plague
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