Idk seems like these airstrikes are doing more to fuck over shipping than the Houthis are.
Shipping Advised to Avoid Key Global Trade Way Point After Airstrikes
It’s paywalled, but the US (and UK) are always bad news
Am I missing something? Seems like they’re defineding civilians here
No. They’re attacking one of the few countries that’s doing something about Israel’s genocide.
They are protecting their civilians or the ones they can benefit from, and killing others who are not, they are not doing this in good faith
Do you have a source for any Yemeni civilians dying yet?
In what way is defending cargo ships not being done “in good faith”? I’m having trouble understanding what that means.
Cargo ships can take a longer route, they don’t need to be there. The US values cargo over human lives.
Cargo includes food, clothing, fuel, building materials and other necessities of life. Fucking with global trade causes inflation, which primarily affects the poorest people. Also, global trade underpins the peace and security of all 8 billion people on Earth. No one group has the right to disrupt the global system of trade over their petty local disputes. If they do, they should expect to feel the full wrath of the rest of the world. Frankly, I’m surprised that the Houthis are being handled with such a light touch so far.
The whole world watches as Israel commits genocide. The Houthis are brave to try to slow down the massacre of the Palestinian people, even though they themselves have been subject to a brutal war against them by the US and Saudi Arabia. If you care about the poorest people, then hold the capitalists responsible. They raise the prices on the poor and for any made up reason. We’ve seen this in the last couple years a when they pretended that it was inflation while they hoarded more and more wealth. Let them pay the skipping delay out of their own pockets first.
I do, like the vast majority of Lemmy users, hold the extremely wealthy responsible for a lot of human suffering, but this is a thread about the Houthis attacking civilian cargo ships. Both capitalists hoarding wealth and terrorists attacking cargo ships can be bad at the same time. Whatever you think of the Palestinian situation, the Houthis are currently adding to the sum total of human suffering, not subtracting from it.
The longer route costs an additional million dollars in diesel alone. Even if you don’t care about the enormous economic impact, the environmental impact alone is huge.
Oh okay, so we’re killing people over causing environmental damage? Let’s murder the CEO of Nestle, BP etc. They deserve it way more!
You know that isn’t what I am saying.
As far as I’m aware, there have been no reports whatsoever of non-military targets being hit in the strikes. Targeting the infrastructure being used by a non-state group to disrupt the most critical trade route on earth is absolutely proportionate.
The CEOs of those companies should be prosecuted instead, however there is not appropriate legislation for environmental damage in the UK and US.
You know that isn’t what I am saying.
It is what you’re implying. Even in this very comment: you just assume that violence is appropriate for protecting a trade route, but we have to be very nice to CEOs of companies that destroy the environment and use slave labor. Please examine your own biases and see the consequences.
Just like how Israel “only targeted valid military targets,” right? Yeah…
Looked at a non paywall source, it was the US advising ships to avoid the area for the next couple days because they plan on doing more strikes and don’t want other ships caught in the crossfire
I mean stop touching the damn boats. People be touching US boats like 4 times in history and it always turns out bad.
The Imperial Japanese Navy sank 8 US boats and we dropped the Sun on them. Twice.
The Houthis are blocking Israeli ports in response to genocide.
Why were US ships going to the ports of a country actively committing genocide?
The US is now bombing a sovereign nation to stop trade sanctions on a genocide.
You don’t get to seal off a critical global shipping route just because you happen to be living next to it and don’t like where some of the cargo is going. This isn’t like the bosphorous, even a recognized Yemeni government wouldn’t have control over who can transit the strait unless they invaded Djibouti
Why were US ships going to
They weren’t. While you may disagree with US Navy hanging out in the area, they’re in international waters and not trying to go to Israel. You could argue that attacking US ships proves the blockade story is a farce
That’s the problem, you touch a US boat and you get bombed, the US fucks an entire region over and they face no consequence
America has been supplying Saudi with weapons to attack the Houthis with for many years.
The Houthis didn’t lose.
Why are people so mad that someone is actually standing up for human rights? The demands of the Houthis are very reasonable.
What are the demands of the Houthis? I know they are Iranian-funded and trained, and that they’ve been warring with the Saudis for years. But now all of a sudden they are world news for attacking global shipping. I also know they say they are supporting the Palestinians, but that seems like a fig leaf.
You write a lot of without knowing anything about the situation. Very interesting.
Please give me a different reason for the Houthis to attack shipping, it’s can’t be them standing up to genocide right? is it their scary religion which doesn’t mass murder kids in Gaza?
I’m not sure why your first instinct is to insult me when I just tried to engage you in conversation. Why are you even here if you don’t want conversation? Are you just looking for an echo chamber?
You can’t seriously be partaking in this conversation when you start with “bro what do the Houthis even want they’re just firing missles at ships randomly, they are an Iranian proxy fighting for no reason xddd”
Their demands were stated very clearly when they started. Stop the blockade and Genocide on Gaza.
It certainly looks like attention seeking and piracy for money
Yemen wants Israel to end its genocide against Palestinians in Gaza.
“standing up for human rights”
Meanwhile, on the Houthis flags: “death to Israel, death to America, Jews are a curse upon the land”
You, a joke of a person who needs to look in the mirror and laugh at yourself: “very reasonable people”
We’re talking about their actions at this very moment. Not them as an organization.
If Kim Jong Un decided to block to Red Sea to support Palestinine instead of the Houthis it would be just as morally correct. If America did it too.
It’s about getting water, food and medicine to little children who are getting their legs amputated without anesthetics as if it’s a SAW movie.
The US is willing to kill untold number of people because otherwise the cheap shirts made by children in Bangladesh will arrive slightly late. I do hope for this evil empire to fucking die already.
No civilians died in the first strikes, and I’m not aware of any sources claiming any civilian deaths in these strikes either, which is probably to be expected given that they were against a military air base.
Would you change your mind if Houthi soldiers died? What is civilians would die?
I’m not going to feel particularly bad about people with the slogan “Death to America, death to Israel, a curse on the Jews” being killed in combat in a retaliatory military strike.
For Bangladesh it’s probably faster to go east to get to the US. The majority of ships going through the Suez Canal are trading with Europe.
