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Thanks for the 8 sources of these 3 (or more) related stories :
From Germany you had 3 more sources which were :
Russian spring offensive could lead to war with Nato, according to German defence scenario https://www.intellinews.com/russia-could-attack-nato-as-early-as-february-bild-reports-307785/Germany warns of Russian attack on NATO within ‘5-8 years’ https://www.aa.com.tr/en/europe/germany-warns-of-russian-attack-on-nato-within-5-8-years-/3113783
Leaked German military documents laid out a doomsday scenario where Russia wins in Ukraine then invades Europe
https://www.businessinsider.com/leaked-military-docs-envision-russia-war-nato-in-2024-2024-12 from Poland :
‘Europe will be subject to a direct Russian attack in the next few years’ — Polish PM Tusk https://news.yahoo.com/europe-subject-direct-russian-attack-150500271.htmlPolish PM warns of possible Russian aggression against Europe https://newsukraine.rbc.ua/news/polish-pm-warns-of-possible-russian-aggression-1704315471.html
and 2 from Estonia:
Europe has 3-5 years to prepare for threat from Russia’s side - Estonian PM https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/01/15/7437368/Russia’s attack on NATO - Kaja Kallas says there is 3-5 years to prepare and calls for stopping Putin in Ukraine
https://eng.obozrevatel.com/section-world/news-there-are-3-5-years-to-prepare-estonian-prime-minister-warned-of-possible-russian-aggression-against-nato-16-01-2024.htmlEdits : added the one i missed. 2nd ed: corrected source.
hope he is decaying by this time
He’s already like 90% decayed.
Still breathing too much if you ask me.
yes guys, we get it
Honestly the whole “putin bad” spam posting (not to mention scare mongering like this post) on the daily is getting tiresome to say the least. 😐
oh I’m all for reminding the public that he is bad on a regular basis. just maybe not in multiple posts revolving around the same issue at the same time.
He is bad. The fuck you talking about?
Okay. Do I need to be reminded of it every single fucking day I log into this god forsaken site?
Yup.
Nope.
Cry some more.
No u.
That would be a big mistake by Putin. Could be his last. And it will take more than 8 years to even think about it. Ukraine has deflated the Russian military. It will take more than 10 years for them to rearm
Last? He’ll be geriatric at that point.
Then? He’s geriatric now.
Ah, the miracles of plastic surgery and not moving your expression much.
How do I link the Noncredibledefense community?
(x) Doubt
And the more authoritarians win in Europe and the US the faster that time line is accelerated
Ok but… how? With whom?
They need those 5-8 years for the kids to get big enough to hold the weapons.
But there won’t be many more coming after that, what with all their men dead and all.
Nah, they still have all the kids they kidnapped from Ukraine and sent to Belarus
Touche.
And with what weapons?
This is the best summary I could come up with:
An increasingly belligerent Russian President Vladimir Putin could attack the NATO military alliance in less than a decade, Germany’s Defense Minister Boris Pistorius warned.
Following the Kremlin’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine, Russia has upped its aggressive rhetoric against some of its neighbors — including the Baltic countries and Poland, which are all members of NATO, and Moldova — prompting top European defense officials to warn of the risk of a major conflict.
Earlier this month, Sweden’s commander-in-chief General Micael Bydén similarly called on Swedes to “prepare themselves mentally” for war.
In his interview with Der Tagesspiegel, Pistorius said the Swedish warnings were “understandable from a Scandinavian perspective,” adding that Sweden faced “an even more serious situation,” given its proximity to Russia.
Lithuania’s Foreign Minister Gabrielius Landsbergis, an outspoken Putin critic who has been one of the loudest voices in support of Ukraine in the EU, on Thursday called on Europe to speed up preparations for more Russian aggression.
“There’s a chance that Russia might not be contained in Ukraine,” Landsbergis told French newswire AFP at the World Economic Forum in Davos.
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What else to do? NATO is the one who been encroaching to the Russian borders for decades, even though it promissed it would never expand.
The good part is most of the arsenal of NATO has been destroyed and used up on Ukraine. Perfect timing.
”Most of the arsenal of NATO”?
That’s just ridiculous. Not a single NATO country has compromised their own defense for this, which can be argued to be a bad or a good thing from either side, and most everyone’s been buying up new gear and investing heavily on new tech; they are, with a few minor exceptions, basically sending the scraps that’d go to landfill if it wasn’t convenient-ish to send them to Ukraine instead….
Lol, ah the encroachment talking point. NATO doesn’t force countries to join. Maybe if Russia was a better neighbor, they wouldn’t have to worry about the Baltics requesting to join. Fucking chud. Also there was NEVER a promise. That talking point has been disproven over and over.
How do you know whether NATO forces the countries to join or not? From the TV and news? Or have you been in the meetings and heard all the details?
As you can clearly see there is an application you have to fill out you fucking dunce.
So a country can’t be forced to fill out an application whilst pretending, for the public, that it’s done so voluntarily?
You cocky cock of a wet dog
No, a country can not be forced to join NATO. Sorry to break your pathetic attempt of an argument.
You can’t possibly know this and have no evidence.
And you think you’re right? Where’s your proof chump?
NATO encroachment
Promise to never expand
Arsenal being used up
Oh wow, a full hand of Russian propaganda! I bet you’ll get an extra couple rubles for this post, daddy vladdy loves cramming in all kinds of bullshit into a single package.
Firstly, do you disagree with the fact that NATO promised, in 1990, it would never expand an inch towards Russia?
Has it expanded since then or not?
Before I answer that, do you disagree with the fact that Russia signed a treaty in 1997 that explicitly allowed eastern block countries to join NATO by guaranteeing the territorial integrity (and autonomy) of the countries? Funny how you don’t hear Russian propagandists talk about that one lol.
As to the alleged ‘promise’ you refer to, can you point to where it was written and agreed to? Or are you just going off of oral statements to Gorbachev before the USSR fell by one us diplomat that wasn’t supported by his peers in the negotiation team and was walked back by the time the actual treaty was signed?
Our disagreement is going to come down to whether non-binding oral statements count as promises, or if you think subsequent signed agreements don’t overrule spoken statements.
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Same story is being reposted multiple times from different sources, this one is first so keeping it and removing the others.
They’re different stories about different statements from different countries. Estonia, Germany, and Poland all independently made statements, not as a single joint statement.
If this is a policy going forward, it should be listed as a rule.
It’s the same story. “Russia plans to attack NATO”, we get it, you don’t have to re-post it 6 times. 24 hour ban for arguing the point and abusive posting
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I’m not even a mod here, but please be civil.
There are two types of propaganda, this is one of them
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NATO would wipe the floor with them, at any point in time.
If nuclear powers went to war they would, together, hand in hand, wipe the floor with the human race. We’re talking about the potential for 9000 nukes to get launched in this hypothetical war.
Yet still, unnecessary deaths on both sides
