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      160F/72C - s’pose it depends on the machine. It’s not the sort of bacteriologic roulette I would want to play. Truly a ‘shit post’. Er, Bravo, I guess.

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    I mean logically the kind of shit that grows on your dishes isn’t much better for you than the literal shit that a toilet brush would scrub out of your toilet bowl. They both contain a lot of the same bacteria, you wouldn’t be much better off licking an old used plate that has been sitting in a moist environment for a few days before you put the dishwasher on than you would be from licking a toilet brush. Well made dishwashers are designed to vigorously wash and, with the right settings and detergent, sanitize everything inside them so that they are safe to eat off of. Heck the machines they use to sanitize surgical equipment are essentially fancy dishwashers. But emotionally I couldn’t do it. Even if I used the best dishwasher known to man and rewashed everything multiple times, I just wouldn’t be able to get over that mental hurdle.

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      But emotionally I couldn’t do it. Even if I used the best dishwasher known to man and rewashed everything multiple times, I just wouldn’t be able to get over that mental hurdle.

      I know, right? If nothing else it just feels wrong…

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      I don’t know about the dishes but according to my memory of something I read a while ago (can’t look things up right now), the kitchen sink and kitchen brushes aren’t much cleaner than anything in the toilet; and actually, kitchen washcloths/sponges tend to be worse than toilet surfaces.

      So, maybe don’t put toilet brushes in the dishwasher but definitely don’t put in kitchen washcloths either. Not sure what this means about us washing dishes by hand with a sponge either. And maybe don’t put in used washcloths along your clothes in the washing machine.

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      I mean logically the kind of shit that grows on your dishes isn’t much better for you than the literal shit that a toilet brush would scrub out of your toilet bowl.

      First, what the fuck is growing on your dishes that you believe is “logically” equivalent to eating human shit? Second, this isn’t a logic problem or a place for opinion. All the work was already done for you, just waiting for you to look it up instead of giving your opinion on bacteria.

      Human shit also doesn’t only contain bacteria. There’s estimated100 million -1 billion virus per gram of wet shit inside of us. Fungi are estimated at up to a million microorganisms per gram of shit and there’s around 100 billion bacteria per gram of wet shit. Let’s not forget parasites like cryptosporidium which your body purges in shit.

      Meanwhile either giving your dishes a cursory rinse or not allowing them to sit covered in food for multiple days at a time would minimize bacterial or fungal growth on your dishes.

      This is a reminder for everyone: your opinion on facts that you can’t be bothered to type in a search box are less than worthless. They’re disinformation and in sone cases, like telling people that eating shit is no more harmful that licking a plate, can cause harm.

      Just say no to opinions on what facts may or may not be.

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        I didn’t say it was the equivalent I said neither are good for you and both could be cleaned and sanitized sufficiently by the right dishwasher, so please don’t put words in my mouth thanks. Damp used dishes stuffed into a dishwasher for a few days aren’t going to have anything good for you on them either and that’s how most people treat their used dishes. We get viruses and parasites growing on regular food that has gone bad too, and both are going to disagree with your stomach and potentially do some harm. Does rinsing your dishes or washing them right away help mitigate or prevent that? Sure. Does everyone do that? Of course not. I never said “eating shit is the exact same as licking a dirty dish” nor did I say anything close to that. I said “both are bad for you and a well made dishwasher is designed to clean things really well and even sanitize them in order to make them safe to eat off of, so it makes sense logically that this could be safe but I still wouldn’t do it anyway”.

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          Damp used dishes stuffed into a dishwasher for a few days aren’t going to have anything good for you on them either and that’s how most people treat their used dishes.

          No they don’t, don’t project onto the world what you think is normal. Everyone I know washes up or puts the dishwasher on straight after they’ve eaten, then puts their dishes away when they’re clean and dried.

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                Wow. It usually takes my partner and I two or three days to fill it. I should look up the specifics of the model and see if the energy saving option is worth it for small loads

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                  Ah that’s the issue. The people I know have 2 kids, so it takes half the time to fill the dishwasher.

                  Personally I only run the dishwasher when we have people round for food and drinks. Otherwise I wash up the old fashioned way because it saves power.

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          I don’t know what “brutal science” is but I do know that the scientific process was used in many peer-reviewed studies to understand what lives in our shit. That holds a lot more weight for me than what an anonymous poster feels might be right in regards to the same subject matter.

          Furthermore, the greater concept here is that we as a species have access to actual information by powers of magnitude more then ever before in human history and yet a significant percentage of the population believe that vaccines cause autism because a washed up Playboy bunny repeated what she read from a discredited “doctor” and it caught on like wildfire.

          People in general too often believe what they hear or read without legitimate evidence. Disinformation exists at best because people unconsciously believe their opinions are just as valid as peer-reviewed research, and at worst to weaponize information for personal gain. Whatever the intent it’s a plague on humanity and I won’t apologize for calling it out when seen. If that’s too “brutal” for you I hope you can get to a place where reading cited information in response to opinion doesn’t disrupt your sensitivities.

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      Huh don’t have time to listen to the whole thing rn but wonder what their rationale is 🤔

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        I could see it being safe from a germ perspective but when a little nugget of shit rattles around in the machine and ends up anywhere near what you’re using to eat that’s gotta suck, safe or not.

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        It’s been a bit, but if I recall, it’s that the dishwasher already reliably cleans unsanitary things that are loads more biologically risky like cutting boards used for raw meat or potentially contaminated with things like Norovirus.

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          I have never even once cleaned a cutting board in the dishwasher…

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              Running plastic cutting boards in the dishwasher is less weird to me, but in general it is a weird concept to me, it was just never done at home or at any place I did the dishes.

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              Sanity wipes?

              What are people talking about here, I wash my cutting boards by hand in the kitchen sink, it has worked well for decades

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      Even if true, what if someone said they shit on their plates, throw the shit in the toilet, them dishwasher the plates.

      Would you conceptually still be ok eating off that plate? Even if you knew for fact it had gone through the machine?

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    What the fuck is wrong with people.

    how the fuck do you lack this much common sense? to put your fucking shitty toilet brush where you put your eating utensils?

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        They’re still not the same germs. No dishwasher goes over 90 or 95°C (household ones). There is bacteria in feces that can survive that temperature. Not to mention parasite spores/eggs, some can easily withstand even 150°C.

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          You are forgetting caustic bleaching chemicals… I mean it’s gross but also hygienic

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            But are you going to add bleach to your dishwasher when you run the toilet brush, then do dishes normally on the next cycle?

            Seems like you’re opening a whole new can of health-hazardous worms with that plan.

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    You know how you wash your dishes to keep the leftover bits of food on them from crusting onto them in the dish washer?

    That, like ten times first, maybe twenty.

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    I understand the ick factor, but dishwashers are built to sanitize. Its going to get hotter than anything you’d wanna stick your hands in.

    The biggest worry would be the bristles clogging the drain.

    Now ask her how she cleans her sex toys.

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      That’s not the problem, the types of bacteria and parasites is. They’re not exactly the same.

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    Ew… like, all alone, with nothing else in the dishwasher at all, and a rinse cycle in-between that and other things that you plan to eat off of?

    Even then, it seems inefficient to me. Also, why would those even need to be cleaned - do you plan on eating off of those?!? They get “cleaned” well enough by going into the toilet - no need for more?

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      Usually I clean the toilet with soap and the brush, and then occasionally clean the brush by cleaning the toilet like normal, flushing, and putting a stronger antimicrobial (looks like bleach but isn’t, since they don’t sell it as much anymore due to the danger it has around the house) on the brush and then rinsing it in the toilet and flushing again.

      Mostly I don’t want it to stink. It’s bad if anyone has cause to notice the toilet brush tucked almost behind the toilet. Same for the plunger.

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      Meeh, I do clean them from time to time. They do become very dirty after a while and it shows since they’re white. Not really often, like once a year, but still.

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        Great! But uh… the more distance between them and things I eat off of, imho, the better! :-P

        Just like Skibidi Toilet, simply b/c you can do something, does not mean that you should.

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          Great! But uh… the more distance between them and things I eat off of, imho, the better! :-P

          Of course, I don’t clean them in the dishwasher, lol 😂.

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              You take the bowl in which it resides, you clean that with… whatever, soap, shampoo, dishwashing liquid. Use a dish sponge from the rough side, gets the best results 👍. Then, you fill that up with some hot water and pour some soap/shampoo/dishwashing liquid in that and start stirring that with the toilet brush, just grinding it in there. You do that for about a minute, it should be shiny as new.

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    My mother used to recycle her douche bottles, throw it in with the regular dishes, and make her own. Guess who always had to wash the dishes…