• PugJesus@kbin.social
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    11 months ago

    “Trump is easily manipulated, but Biden isn’t an insane manchild who will start economic turmoil because he shat his diaper that morning. Who will be better for extending anti-democratic ideology and Chinese imperialism in our ‘sphere of influence’?”

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    11 months ago

    ???

    The orange wiggler actively started a trade war against China, encourages asian hate among his deplorables, and wants to do everything to hurt China.

    Biden is willing to work with China, and Obama was pro-China.

    They can’t figure it out? Really?

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      Obama wasn’t pro-China. You see, that’s the problem - NOT being a frothing-at-the-mouth loon is actually bad for China, because China looks like a pretty unappealing alternative to aligning with the US in South-East Asia right now. If America looks racist, moronic, and on the brink of collapse, China looks more appealing to SEA nations by comparison.

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        11 months ago

        I think you would have been right with this analysis a couple of years ago, before Xi’s moronic “wolf warrior diplomacy” really took off. He managed to so thoroughly ruin China’s standing with almost every one of its neighbors (and beyond) that even a USA under Trump is considered a far more pleasant alternative right now.

        You can see this wolf warrior mentality even in how their online trolls and the loyal part of their diaspora (often indistinguishable from one another) are behaving online.

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      The orange wiggler actively started a trade war against China

      No he didn’t, he just put some tariffs in place. Tariffs Biden has left in place. Trump was more aggressive against Canadian trade than he was China.

      encourages asian hate among his deplorables

      They don’t care about Asian hate in the US; they may even support it so their most valuable people aren’t tempted to immigrate to the US.

      wants to do everything to hurt China.

      China is one of the many, many issues on which Trump talks a big game but didn’t actually much about.

      With Trump, the CCP knows they can bribe him with personal things (like trademarks) that don’t cost them anything to get what they want in foreign policy; as they, the Saudis, Russians, and everyone quickly figured out Trump is more than willing to undermine America’s interests for his own gain.

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    11 months ago

    Hmm, I just can’t tell the difference between this normal US President and this psychotic shrieking banshee. I guess they’re just bowls of poison. Oh well.

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    11 months ago

    The flight attendant comes down the aisle with her food cart and, eventually, parks it beside my seat. “Can I interest you in the chicken?” she asks. "Or would you prefer the platter of shit with bits of broken glass in it? To be undecided in this election is to pause for a moment and then ask how the chicken is cooked.

    David Sedaris

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    11 months ago

    China needs to worry about its own problems, their economy is in the shitter and headed down

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    11 months ago

    China would rather have Trump because I doubt he would defend Taiwan. He just wants to end trade with China, while simultaneously praising Xi as brilliant. Biden also wouldn’t pose for a dumbass photo-op with Kim Jong-un. China very clearly has a favorite because they know Trump would maximize domestic turmoil

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      Bro, there is clearly a less-bad choice.

      I hate that that’s what we’re reduced to, but we have one deeply uninspiring and frustratingly out-of-touch candidate, and one completely psychotic narcissistic authoritarian candidate. There is a very obvious “correct” choice here, both as an American voter and as a human.

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          So you want to just hand the presidency to fascists because Biden is, while not an outright fascist, an extremely milquetoast candidate?

          Pull your head out of your ass and at least try to be realistic.

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          …yes…? It’s also less bad than the alternative. And you’re not going to be able to persuade me that voting 3rd party in the general is a good idea, because it is most definitely not a good idea if you want to prevent Trump from getting into office.

          I hate the two-party system too. But pretending it doesn’t exist is a great way to get steamrolled by it.

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            11 months ago

            Refusing to ever act on it is a great way to perpetuate it as well.

            If Trump loses this election, will you decide to start changing your voting habits to bring what you need or will the next rwnj force your hand again?

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            This wasn’t the point though. It is that both options are bad. Yes, one is objectively less bad, but I’d guess a majority of Americans will not vote for Biden but instead against Trump.

            I will absolutely cast a vote for Biden, but not because I like Biden.

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        11 months ago

        … depends on one’s goal: a better or a worse America.

        China and Russia, as the other superpowers, most definitely want a worse USA.

        Iran wouldn’t mind destabilizing the infidels.

        What’s boggling is that there are American voters who apparently want a worse USA. Though that seems to apply to quite a few western democracies.

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      11 months ago

      For decades many voters in Western nations have collectively held their noses and voted for the person who they believed would do the least amount of damage.

      This isn’t democracy in action. It’s simply having nobody to vote for.

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        11 months ago

        This is very much a millennial perspective. Looking at a demographic table, it’s overwhelmingly obvious that most Americans are boomers. And older people vote more often than younger people.

        We may see Trump and Biden as weak candidates, but this is literally what they want. It is democracy in action. We just don’t outnumber the older Americans lol. It’s obviously changing. Otherwise Sanders wouldn’t have made it as far as he did in 2016 and 2020.