Knock over your mouse countless times while moving your arm around.
Still worth it, though.
I can hear this comment °-°
I had constant pain and switched to evoluent vertical mouse in like 2015 and haven’t had pain since. And it’s an added layer of security
I had the exact same scenario! Just a few years before your issue, I fell and landed on my right hand, straining my wrist. It wasn’t broken, but it was really sore and months later it still hurt just as badly, so I went to a doctor. He said the tendons and the sheath they go through were likely inflamed, and all my mousing (both work and home) was probably keeping it inflamed. I switched to the evoluent at work and a Logitech thumb ball at home, and two weeks later I was fine.
They are great, but I have two issues with my left handed one:
- Right handed people just cannot use it, I can’t just give someone else my mouse for a minute.
- For some stupid reason, the left and right mouse button are switched, so now I have to switch it back in software, so now the buttons on my laptop touchpad are switched.
I’ve got a left handed mouse with switched buttons. I’m so used to it now that it takes a good 5 seconds for me to figure out how a normal mouse works.
I’ve used the standard button layout of a right handed mouse all my life, I’m not suddenly switching now.
The IT manager at my previous job used this as a security feature.
People thought that because he was the IT manager he could just get another mouse, so they’d just take his when they left their mouse at home and never return it.
So he got a left handed vertical mouse even though he is right handed.
Nobody steals his mouse now because it is vertical and cannot be used in the right hand.
We had a guy learn Dvorak specifically so no one could take his keyboard. Madman or brilliant?
Can’t you just go into system settings and have it function as qwerty? You wouldn’t be able to hunt for a key, but if you touch type it shouldn’t matter.
I think if the keyboard had dvorak in it’s firmware (rather than set on the pc) you would need a dvorak-to-qwerty conversion setting which I’ve never seen on a pc.
Most custom layouts (mine included) just assume the keyboard is sending qwerty.
At that point, why not just use a joystick? I guess this would be faster; I assume you still move it around like a mouse you’re just holding it like a joystick.
I wonder how good IntelliJ’s support for joystick is.
Rotating your wrist upward just opens up your arm/shoulder/wrist into their correct positions.
Wrist-aiming/clicking is bad for you long term, just learn how to use your arm to move the mouse around on a lower sensitivity :)
What’s bad for you is incorrect posture and resting your wrist on the desk or a pad while actively using your wrist. If you sit at the right distance and height, you shouldn’t be bending your wrist up or down at all.
Source: Have carpal tunnel and was given guides on proper posture and peripheral use by my doctor.
Hard for those of us who have different-than-expected-proportions. I have a custom built desk at home so it’s not a problem, but my work desk is just too high. Even at its highest, my chair doesn’t raise me up enough to allow me to sit ergonomically since I have a short torso. The vertical mouse helps make up for it, though.
lol I got the exact mouse in the post right next to me. it was the cheapest vertical mouse I could find and the scroll wheel makes awful skreeching noises. Works perfectly though and the wrist pain is long gone
same. The battery was shit though, so I replaced it with a larger one
Yay! There are dozens of us! A cheap trackball is one of the best things I have ever bought. No pain, and it is really accurate.
I did have a regular mouse in my pc too so that other people could use my pc without complaining, but donated it to one of the new people at work. But happy, nice mouse makes the day better.
I’m not the only one who sees a shark with its jaws opened, right?
Yup! But is the top eyes or nostrils? Wait… Edit. Had to check, yes sharks have nostrils 🙃
Trackball gang.
Mx Ergo, best of both worlds
I have a couple friends that play PC games on old-school Trackman trackballs. The amount of griping when we play a game with something bound by default to the mousewheel is INCREDIBLE.
That’s like using a Dvorak keyboard and complaining that games default to WASD bindings. This is the exact reason why key remapping is a standard feature on PC games but not on consoles
The old Trackmans have very limited inputs relative to modern gaming mice. There are some trackballs with scroll wheels, but they have different ergonomics (you rotate the ball with your thumb rather than your index, middle, and ring fingers) that my buddies aren’t fond of.
Given that theirs is a very niche use case, I don’t think anybody’s gonna make a trackball to suit them that also has a scroll wheel, but I guess if somebody was motivated enough, there’s an opportunity for some sort of ESP-based open source hardware.
I’ve always been curious about this. Do they play FPS games by chance? If so, how’s their aim compared to a traditional mouse? I’ve always had this intuition that it would be easier to aim with a trackball, but I’ve never gotten one to see for myself.
Been uing them for a long time. But it is really hard to find a good one under 40/50€. Normal mouses have a lot of the goodones in 30€.
Anker makes a decent one, which can be bought for $20 or a bit less. Should be said it is the only vertical mouse I’ve used, but it works as a mouse and I haven’t had shoulder tension/aches since I started using it.
Honestly, I was, indeed, refering to that one. I dind’t know anker was doing one, but it is the same generic that many brands are selling. It’s optical and not laser, therefore precision is mediocre and the battery doesn’t last too long like the laser ones. Also the construction materials feel pretty bad. I mean, it’s what could you expect from a cheap mouse. But again, the normal mouses have much better mouses and with laser sensors for similar prices.
If you suffer from wrist or elbow pain from using a regular mouse you’re best off doing strength exercises and proper stretching for those muscle groups. I find that to be more effective than using one of these vertical mice as your issue is likely from muscle overuse. Vertical mice can help but if you’re on your computer all day you’re bound to still have the same issue from overuse of your muscles.
Just my experience tho everyone is different.
That’s not how an RSI works. It’s not muscle issues at all, it’s the tendons that get inflamed from over use and that inflammation pushes against the tendon cords that bind them and that’s what causes the pain.
Muscle exercises don’t do anything to help.
It is a muscle issue. The reason your tendons are over stressed is because the muscles supporting them are also over used.
This is why when you go to the doctor for RSI the most common treatment is rest AND muscle exercises.
Strong muscles gives your tendons a break.
I have a stationary mouse that’s kinda like that.
touchpad gang (i cant be bothered spending money)
Yes! The pictured one is a good one too. But currently using the Logitech MX Vertical.
As an IT support person, the problem I have with these mice is that the left mouse button is also on the vertical. So when heavy-handed users click on a file in explorer, they also slightly drag down, so the file “disappears” into a folder, and now it’s a support ticket to get the file restored.
Sigh.
I was remembering just now I used to have one but I gave up on it almost immediately after using irl Thanks for reminding me why I quickly moved on from vertical mouse.
I feel sick to my stomach thinking back to my IT help desk days.
i find these WAY more painful to use than a normal mouse, it puts all my weight on that hemispherical bit in the wrist and the angle is just slightly off being the neutral position for my hand so it’s instead constantly putting stress on the arm…
i want one that’s just slightly more tilted than a normal mouse.
You could also use one of those silicone mouse pads.
I use this at work because I have a standing desk and was getting wrist pains. Forcing my hand to tilt also forces
It’s a shit mouse on purpose.
You uh, want to finish that middle sentence?
big vertical mouse got them before they could finish
Those are called rats.
My Logitech MX Master 2 has a decent amount of angle without being vertical, maybe something like that is what you’re looking for?
MX Master is my favorite mouse line by far. Amazing scroll wheel, side scroll wheel, good angle and buttons, and can swap between 3 computers.
I have my Master 3 set up for my work pc, my Surface, and my editing computer.
They’re also SOOOO HEAVY, though maybe I’ve been spoiled by my G Pro Superlight.
