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over time this might affect our collective consciousness in regards to the purpose & function of the eggplant; and
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can we please just get a straightforward penis emoji already?? Half the human population has a penis attached to their bodies anyway, why are we still so prude about incorporating actual penises into mainstream vernacular & daily life?
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What I don’t get is that a dick the size or shape of an eggplant would just not work, for anything.
There are lots of dick-shaped, dick-sized eggplants. Chinese eggplants and Japanese eggplants are pretty phallic, similar to cucumbers or zucchini in size/shape.
Japanese ones are a lot thinner.
Carrots on the other hand are the opposite, being much thicker than the ones in the US
There’s actually kind of a funny history behind the Eggplant emoji. Emoji are Japanese in origin and around the time they were taking off there was this Survivor like gameshow where one guy was confined to his apartment and he had to try and survive past the basics by applying for and winning sweepstakes items from various promotions from newspapers and magazines.
The participant’s shortened form name was Nasu - which means “eggplant” so since the guy started the challenge with literally nothing including clothes they put a little Eggplant over his junk in post. That became a Japanese cultural meme that translated over once emoji became more widely adopted.
You probably won’t see actual dick emoji in the actual set because emoji are an all ages access thing and exist on an international level. It’s actually kind of funny how different cultures use the same finite set. Like in China how the angel emoji is construed as “I’m going to end you”. One could see the things as becoming essentially a hieroglyphic set where they gain their own full individual linguistic meanings.
emoji are an all ages access thing
Last time I checked, penises are an all ages thing too. But who knows, I’m no urologist.
They are an all ages thing for some… But remember when I said international? I don’t particularly like puritanical prudishness but the conservative held belief as those things being inappropriate for all points of society is also pretty common.
I doubt those who keep the emoji want any hassle of the conservative European diaspora middle East, the Americas, facets of Africa and China getting their knickers in a twist.
In the world of stockholder retaliation some things people count as just above their pay grade.
They could include it. Give it a spot. But blank. And then it would be up to each OS if they want to include the icon on their device. That way we could at least let those less prudish nations and companies start with a common code point.
Like flags for example. They got codepoints, but Microsoft has decided to not take sides and have ignored country’s flags.
The problem with leaving it blank is that it harms communication if the other party doesn’t have that symbol. You may send it because it exists in your country but then they have no idea what you mean.
Maybe having a “tofu” missing character box is ok, but even then if a substantial amount of the world’s population isn’t going to have this character it maybe be best to leave it out.
That being said, I am still in favour.
U realise the unicode consortium only makes standards and describes the meaning the actuall image used is not up to them for instance a this🇹🇼 emoji wont show on most chinese devices if a country doesnt like a dick emoji then they can ban it.
Nope, did not realize… But tell me that even my nice progressive Canada wouldn’t have hordes of parents flipping the fuck out about little kids being exposed to cartoon porn and I wouldn’t believe you.
To be clear it’s not like I think there’s any moral issue with an emoji set of genitals. I just don’t think anybody wants to court that much bother for something already served by a cultural understanding about the eggplant emoji that already exists. In a vaccum of sex and penis innuendos an innuendo will always emerge. Even when we have the option to be explicit sometimes we opt for innuendo. I just don’t see there being a lot of value particularly in a cartoon penis. Like okay, you have a cartoon penis, there’s a moral outcry. Conservatives get mad and in the end… what exactly has been improved really?
The juice just doesn’t seem worth the squeeze.
I live to piss of all extremists and the extreme conservatives are right up there with the most entertaining to annoy. And hey there would be some dam fine jokes about the countries that ban it.
Yeah I don’t think upsetting those people who are fence sitting into opinions that make them more likely to further solidify their support for conservatives is worth it for cartoon penises personally.
They are hard enough to try and reach for serious mind changing heart to hearts without them feeling like the world is falling to general moral bankruptcy.
Ohh the world fell to general moral bankruptcy long ago.
Are there not already words to represent the same thing to anyone old enough to read a message? A different representation of something they are already potentially exposed to isn’t something that technology standards should be censoring.
Especially when the defacto replacement for this is a symbol of something that could very easily give young men a serious sense of inadequacy and insecurity.
edit: (you -> young)
I would countee that wouldn’t any single depiction of a penis set an unreasonable standard? Color, size, circumsized vs not etc? At least with a euphemism it is fairly abstract. I don’t think anyone looks at an eggplant as a goal.
There is already skin tone support for emoji. Size is not a problem because there is nothing to compare it to. Circumsized could be a separate emoji.
Damn, after reading the first paragraph I really tought this was going to include masturbation by insertion of an eggplant. Now I’m a little disappointed to be honest.
I suppose there are worse things to insert but an eggplant, particularly the type being depicted in the emoji doesn’t seem like a particularly prime candidate. Seems like a good way to end up in hospital looking for a manual extraction.
A person I know used to work as a nurse in an operating room, stuff like this happens more often than you’d think. I haven’t heard an eggplant mentioned by them though.
Is that the show where the contestant came out about how horribly abusive the production was? Like he was tricked/coerced into doing it and basically imprisoned the whole time?
Oh yeah… It was horrible. Dude was traumatized.
It’s up to the app/os how emoji are rendered. You can hack your os to display whatever you want instead of 🍆 , or add support for 👨🍆 with zero width space between, but it’s less likely to be used.
It’s not even at OS level (unless you’re thinking fonts are OS level). So basically you’d just need to define a font, with certain unicodes with images you want, and make sure it ranks higher than other fonts. So the application will search for any characters in that font, and then for those you didn’t define, it’ll search in other fonts.
wait, have I been using the wrong one? 👃
Dr Andre Nosedick!
Human horn.
We can’t even have a gun or a middle finger emoji. I doubt we’re getting a penis one anytime soon.
Well there is🖕and 🔫 in UTF 8 at least, so it is kind of there as an emoji.
But as the UTF 8 pistol is shown as a water gun this very much shows why a penis will always be denied.
The gun emoji used to be a real gun, but controversies made Apple change their emoji into a water gun. Other companies followed suit.
Because the way to prevent mass shootings is to remove people’s ability to convey the concept of gun in communication.
It’s a flawless plan with no possible downsides.
Yes, that’s exactly what I meant, a gun in UTF 8 had already produced a shitstorm of controversies, a penis (and vagina to complete the set) would most likely break the Internet due to the outrage of puritans and other people with strong opinions.
🖕?
We don’t have an emoji face for sadistic glee either. For the longest time the only angry face was a devil face.
😈 sadistic glee, see he’s got a little mischievous smile there
Never noticed 𓂺 before. Impressive.
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Edit: Sorry to everyone, but I think I just won the Internet. You’re welcome, in advance.
Just last week I meant to make eggplant parm but got mixed up and next thing you know I was deep throating that sucker. Dinner was ruined.
Feel free to submit a request to the Unicode Consortium in April when they open up again but given vulva/vagina was previously declined I doubt they’ll accept penis https://www.unicode.org/emoji/emoji-requests.html
I literally used my penis instead of eggplant. Thanks Internet. Now I have a detachable penis.
But now you can leave it at home when you think it’s going to get you in trouble.
Or I can rent it out, when I don’t need it.
You could use the Phallus hieroglyph: 𓂸
Ooh yes, How do you find that out in the wild? or is it something I should keep in my repository to copy and paste
I learned about it here on Lemmy, when needed I just google it
Very conspicuously absent on my Windows computer
over time this might affect our collective consciousness in regards to the purpose & function of the eggplant
I think that that’s already happening. Personally, when I see an eggplant, I automatically think of penises, and it makes me a bit uncomfortable.
As a bonus, here are some ancient Egyptian dick hieroglyphs: 𓂸 𓂺 𓂹
Personally, when I see an eggplant, I automatically think of penises,
Same! 😆 But I wouldn’t say I feel uncomfortable about it, I feel amused and I giggle. One time I’m over at my ex-husband’s house visiting my kids and his new wife said they have a thriving garden in the backyard and she offered me this ginormous eggplant (I mean it was COMICALLY huge) and I looked at it appreciatively for a moment then burst out laughing and honestly I had no use for an eggplant whatsoever cuz I don’t cook and I’m not going to just eat the thing, I declined the offer but it was so funny. I keep wondering what my ex-husband’s new wife thought about me bursting out laughing at an innocent eggplant offering. I know she’s not so innocent that she would be naive to the double entendre, my ex husband has told me her kinks in the bedroom and that’s fine LOL
(Edit: spelled entendre the way I think it’s supposed to be spelled instead of my “smart” phone consistently spelling it in a way that looks wrong to me.
Thank you for the copy/pastable hieroglyphics 𓂸 𓂺 𓂹
I see the second one is spewing liquid, but what is the third one doing with that hook thing?
You should probably transcribe the contents of your addendum photo for the visually impaired so their screen readers can read it
Eggplants come from eggplant sperm. Got it.
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Adults shouldn’t be using emojis, and that’s a hill I’m willing to die on
Then perish. 😈🔪
🤡
🙄
I love emojis even though I don’t use them much. I just think it’s really cool that this idea emerged and everyone got on board and now it’s almost like a whole universal language - modern hieroglyphics or whatever else you want to call it. Plus they’re just kinda fun and sometimes it’s easier to convey a reaction with a specific smiley than it is with words. Language, however beautiful and elegant, is still sometimes wanting, you know?
𓃻𓆓𓏲𓆓𓃾 𓌓𓏴𓊽𓂝𓃾 𓂝𓆓 𓉐𓂝𓇯 𓃻𓃾𓆓𓏲𓆓. 𓌙𓁶𓌙 𓀠𓂧 𓉗𓇯 𓌅𓃾 𓂋𓃾𓌓 𓇯𓉐𓂝𓃻𓃾 𓂝𓆓 𓈖𓏲𓏴𓉐𓃾 𓌙𓏲 𓉐𓂝𓏴 𓃾𓊽
My 42-year-old boyfriend felt the same way, until one day I made a verbal observation to him that when men include a :-) in a text to a woman, it means he wants to fuck her.
He said, “Yes that’s probably true.”
Over the next couple years he, by now my ex, started using colorful emojis all over the place in desperate Facebook flirting attempts,
because he apparently came to the conclusion that emojis must be chick magnets somehow.
But no, it just made him look like a ___________ (fill in your own adjectives, they’re probably correct).
That’s funny :-)
I vote for having penis, balls, butt, labia and titty emojis.
Where does it end? Anuses (anii?), dildos, ball-gags, pierced v. unpierced, big boobs, small boobs, all in each skin tone…
The eggplant is fine. Maybe a sausage or hotdog would be better in the long run and easier to implement.
Where does it end?
It never ends. We want it ALL!
I mean they have a system where you can long press one and get different versions of it, so you could fit a bunch of them together like piercings or grouping dildos with dicks. Because we also need the various skin tones and styles so everyone feels included.
Big dicks, small dicks… Long-press for various skin tones and degrees of erectness.
The longer you press, the longer it gets?
Unironically all great suggestions
Would the black version of the penis emoji be longer than the others? Would it be an erect or a flaccid penis? Why not both? Or better even, a full range of male excitement. The applications are endless!
(I’m joking of course but it does demonstrate the silly questions you would have to answer if you were to actually implement this)
I love this kind of thought experiment. Also, as representation is paramount, what would a vulva emoji look like ? there are so many flavours to them
Where are the tits emojis?
Are the round or saggy? Big or small? Pointy? Perky? With an upward curve like a ski jump?
Big aerolas? Small? Symmetrical? Light skin tone? Dark skin tone?
Options here people!
WE NEED OPTIONS!
… On a more serious note, having just the penis added to the emote list would be sexist. Gotta be inclusive.
Also, the reason this doesn’t happen and probably won’t happen, is that emojis are universal, so everyone gets them… Including small children. I know of a lot of people who would have a problem with that.
