• halva@discuss.tchncs.de
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      ah yes posting “le gay bad” memes in response to a dictator who made the lives of queer people in the country he controls an actual hell

      go back to fuckin r/conservative with that shit

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        I’m pretty sure you misunderstood. Putin doesn’t like gays, so depicting him as one is bad. Doesn’t mean gays are bad

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          Most people understand that. But I don’t want to be associated with Putin even as a joke. Fuck him, he doesn’t deserve the honor of even being depicted as gay.

          I’m not saying no one can make this joke, but it seems kinda lazy and relies too much on stereotypes to be funny imo

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            The humour hits when you imagine how pissed off Putin would be about this image. Then you get to laugh again at his feeble attempt to ban an image on the intent when you learn about that part.

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              Yeah I can see how that’s funny. And I get the irony of the picture. I personally think it’s not in good taste, but I’m not trying to yuck anyone’s yum or cancel someone’s humor. Just explain why some of us don’t like it and try to understand why so many people downvoted the original person who disagreed.

              It really seems to be getting more divisive and less welcoming on Lemmy the longer I’m here

              • kense@lmmy.dk
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                It really seems to be getting more divisive and less welcoming on Lemmy the longer I’m here

                Never tolerate intolerance.
                If you don’t like people making fun of a dictator on a massive killing/kidnapping spree, this place is most definitely not for you…

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                  What?? That’s the weirdest way to twist my words I’ve seen. Please, make fun of him. I don’t tolerate his bigotry.

                  I’m saying there are good ways and bad ways to make fun of him. Some people, including me, think this isn’t the best way to do it. Some people think it is. But yeah, maybe this place isn’t for me. It’s becoming too much like reddit imo

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                  Theyre using homophobia to mock a dictator. Which is still homophobia.

                  Using racism to depict Xi as a stereotypical Chinaman would still be racism, even if he is a dictator. Using antisemitic caricatures to depict Netanyahu as inherently untrustworthy would be antisemitic even if he is running a genocide with US weapons.

                  Stereotypes and slurs don’t become acceptable just because they’re used against our enemies. This image of Putin should be banned and any posts containing it should be removed under hate speech and anti-homophobia rules

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            It’s not lazy and it’s not supposed to be funny. The point is that he doesn’t like the image. It’s a big fuck you to Putin.

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              He doesn’t care about the image, and it is incredibly delusional to pretend that such a depiction has any significance to anyone but terminally online and chronically underemployed white Americans under 40.

              Also, it is homophobic. If there is nothing wrong with being gay and crossdressing, then it is bigoted to portray our enemies as such as an insult.

              Being gay isn’t an insult. Crossdressing isn’t an insult. Being trans isn’t an insult. Depicting Putin as such isn’t an insult.

              All this does is further stigma against LGBT persons in the West. Is that your goal? Because that’s what is being done. And, ironically, it serves to further a goal that Putin supports - the increased stigmatization of LGBT life. You’re doing his work for him and are too narrow-minded to even realize it

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              Again, I understand the point is that he doesn’t like the image. My point is that there is more than one way to interpret the image, and they’re not all positive. And when some one points that out, they’re downvoted and mocked.

              I say it’s lazy because I’ve been hearing people call straight people gay since elementary school. To piss them off. I don’t see how this is much different even if the intent was to criticize his homophobia. The effect is still the same

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                Also makes your question how accepted LGBT people actually are in the West, even among “liberals”, if this is what they think an insult is.

                It reads as “Being gay is fine and good so long as you support our positions; but the minute you start opposing us, we will use your sexual identity as a weapon against you. Remember that.”

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              It’s not illegal to be a man anywhere in the world. There’s a deep sense of community with lgbt+ because it is, and has been, a struggle for most gay people. So when someone takes a photo of the very person who is discriminating against our community and makes it look like he’s a part of the community, it can hit a sore spot with some people.

              Again, I’m not trying to tell people to stop and I get that some people see it differently. But every time I’ve seen someone post that image, someone will say how that image can be interpreted as being gay is a joke, or that saying someone is gay when they’re not is bad form. And everyone dog piles and mocks them or calls them sensitive, etc. I’m mostly disappointed that it’s the same here and most people don’t care to hear a different perspective

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                I’m tired of hearing people cry about being offended from every little thing. You’re literally being offended right now by a drag queen gay looking mockup of Putin, that Putin banned because it pisses him off. Grow some skin.

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                  And there it is. I knew someone would say that. If you see me as a crying offended sjw with thin skin, then there’s no point in having this conversation. I laid out my differing perspective without being harsh or judgemental, all while feeling no offense.

                  Personally I’m tired of the right wing talking points that dismiss any different perspective as weak. I’m tired of communities like Lemmy becoming more divisive, with users seeing each other as enemies and not giving others the benefit of the doubt. I’m tired of typing out long comments that I put thought into, hoping people will respond like decent humans, and getting brain dead insults and defensive arguments.

                  I’ll make a deal with you, I’ll grow thicker skin if you grow some empathy.

          • A_Very_Big_Fan@lemmy.world
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            Sharing a sexuality doesn’t associate you with him any more than sharing a hair color or preference of fabric softener

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              But that’s the thing, I’m not sharing a sexuality with him. Someone made him look like a gay stereotype because he hates people like me.

              And the whole point is the picture IS to associate him with the LGBT+ community, in an ironic way, to piss him off.

              If he made being blonde illegal and threw blondes in jail, that would be a fair analogy. But he didn’t, so that’s a terrible analogy. I mean, there are people that discriminate based on appearance and they’re called racists. So if this was a picture of Trump but photoshopped to look stereotypically Chinese, maybe that would be more of an equivalent analogy

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        Also, yet unmentioned, Putin’s government BANNED use of that Putin in drag image because it hurt his sensitive ego.

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        It’s not “le gay bad”, but more-so the idea of turning Putin into a gay icon in direct opposition to his identity politics.

    • Rikudou_Sage@lemmings.world
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      When they decide they should be the president until they die and make it legal. Putin has reached that milestone a while ago.

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        The Constitution of Russia was adopted in 1993, limiting the President of Russia to no more than two consecutive four year terms. Boris Yeltsin was the incumbent president when the constitution came into effect and had already served for over two years. Yelstin was reelected in 1996, but he resigned near the end of his term in 1999, and Prime Minister Vladimir Putin served for the remainder of Yeltsin’s term as acting president. Putin was elected to a full term in 2000 and reelected in 2004.

        Putin was not constitutionally permitted to run for reelection in 2008, so he endorsed First Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev, who went on to become the next president. The day after Medvedev’s inauguration, he appointed Putin as Prime Minister of Russia. While Putin did not hold the office of president for the following four years, he held de facto control over the country’s executive, extending his tenure beyond what term limits would normally allow.

        The Constitution was amended in 2008, expanding the presidential term from four to six years following the 2012 election. Having been removed from the office of the presidency for a term, Putin was constitutionally eligible to run again and was elected president in 2012 and then reelected in 2018. The Constitution was amended in 2020 to reset the number of terms Putin has served, allowing him to circumvent term limits in the 2024 and 2030 elections, enabling him to legally stay in office until 2036.

        So I guess he first broke the rules in 2004 if you count his time as acting president, but I think it’s no longer up for debate after 2008.

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          I wouldn’t count the part where he was acting president instead of Yeltsin, but yeah, since 2008 he’s stopped being sneaky about wanting to be a dictator.

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      When you have nothing left to gain from acting like their friend?

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        He even was one when he didn‘t run for office. Hell most people don‘t even remember the name of Russia‘s other „President“ they had for 5 years. I for sure don‘t.

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          I think everyone knows the name, he’s kinda (in) famous lately with all the talk about nuking Europe and stuff. It’s Medvedev.

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      Wasn’t the previous one somewhere in the 90-ish percent? This is a huge loss!

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          I made a joke about that percentage the day before this farce – I can’t call them elections – but I never thought that would become a reality. Secondly, are we going to accept ‘‘elections’’ held in a territory occupied by military forces. Nobody should be that naive.

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            I agree with you, the entire thing was a farce. There’s no way he LEGITIMATELY got 88% of the vote. Just another dictator, doing dictator things.

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    Managed Democracy carefully selected the best candidate for each citizen to vote for. According to the best algorithms.

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    88% is so typical - for Nazis it means the eight letter of the alphabet twice, which means “Heil Hitler”. Given that the Z symbol of his genocidal war looks like a half Swastika we can now finally agree: Putin is the reincarnation of Hitler.

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          He would have lost his mind if it landed in the 60s or 70s range. Had to have been 85-100 to show a dominant win.

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              Nah, the guy woulsädn’t have been shot, but it would be highly likely for them to forget windows in Russia lack the safety railing.

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                comrade Vasily? he drink too much vodka and slip off balcony in hotel yesterday. very strange, very strange

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        In the beginning - yes, but not at the end. There were cases of dropping a pack of lists into the urn, so they do count on the ground level (:

        I’m looking a little into the future. Not election-wise, but frustration-wise.