I don’t get it, I’m on iOS 17 and can move them around? I came from a pixel and I was surprised that you could. And you can also stack widgets which is nice
Can you leave a space in between two icons though
The gap/spaced rows are impossible with current technology
They researched it for 3 years
You are greatly underestimate their efforts. They researched it for 30 years by 30 thousands economists.
Sounds like it must be some advanced alien tech but I think I’ll be alright without it
Is it about maybe allowing blank space between apps?
Reminds me of this https://youtu.be/9BnLbv6QYcA?si=gRyq1w2l4X6HYgC-
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Well this is good news. I never owned an Apple product until my recent purchase of an iPad Mini.
I was nervous about switching from an Android tablet, but everything went great until I tried to move my home screen icons where I wanted them, and resize a weather widget the way I wanted it. Neither worked, and I had to laugh at how ridiculous it was.
I’m very much looking forward to version 18 now.
I’m not sure I understand what we’re talking about. When you install an app on iOS, the icon pops onto the home screen or an adjacent page if there’s no room. Can you not move the icons after that? I know you can put them in folders.
I guess that when you come from a land of tweaking things to juuust the way you like it, any hindrance to this would be annoying
At least on my iPhone (no idea if iPads are different) you can reorder, but the icons will always be “dense” meaning no free spaces between them. They will always align in full rows beginning from top left. You can put stuff in folders, and you can change the order, but not have one icon in the third row, without the first and second row being fully populated with icons.
I had no idea! I guess it’s a minor thing, but that would annoy me. Thank you for explaining.
This meme would be 1000% better with sound lol
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Control freak Apple throwing their customers another small scrap.
I should really switch to Android
Apple fan boi here.
I also love to shit on Apple.
Some of the big reveals are so dumb. They just give things a different name to blow your mind.
“Omg! They invited spatial computing!!!”
It’s not dumb because it works, doesn’t it? Even haters spread the news.
Me on Linux changing the look of notification area with CSS stylesheet after installing an icon pack that works not only on app launcher but in most of the system.
PS Don’t forget to install this Magisk module that hacks Google checks so you can still log-in to your bank after you changed animations style via that other Magisk module.
RIP in peace Windows Phone 10. Still the best home screen setup ever.
You can use launcher10 or any other launcher that looks like windows phone home screen.
That’s the launcher I use. It’s the best available from what I can find
Different people have different tastes. I use Trebuchet 8. But person I replied to was asking about Windown Phone experience on android.
What is Trebuchet 8? I didn’t see it in the play store for my Galaxy Flip 4.
Best I can find is it’s pre coupled with lineage is and you can extract it from the OS or some such but beyond that I’m lost
I don’t remember where I found it, but it is LineageOS’ launcher
You can still get it with android launchers. Was toying with them the other day. Launcher 10 I believe is pretty close.
I actually use Launcher 10. I love it minus the weird glitch where the letter selector from the all apps list occasionally not working. Best Android Launcher around
Say what you will about Microsoft, lemmys, but Windows Phone 10 had great performance and battery life. It’s a shame that it was nuked because MS couldn’t bring themselves to go all the way on the Android bridge.
They also messed up Nokia before killing Windows Phone. Nokia’s Symbian used to be a serious competition to android.
Nokia’s Symbian was shit and you’re the only person I’ve ever heard saying anything positive about it. To be a serious competitor to Android or IOS you need to have as much apps on the store and Symbian had very few.
I am saying that it was probably sabotaged by Microsoft leaning leadership at Nokia.
Also, despite being Linux core, Android itself was shit in the beginning. Gingerbread (G) was the first edition that won favour with buyers. Hardly any takers of android for its first six versions (A to F). Not even the techy nerds were buying Eclairs.
Around 20 years ago, iOS used to outclass everything by a big margin. Android, Nokia/Symbian, RIM, etc were closer to each other than to Apple. And now …
As of 2024, fresh competition to android is needed.
And MeeGo as well, which was a more modern base and even better UX than Windows Mobile in my opinion.
Symbian was a fantastic OS, but it never competed with Android in any meaningful way. Nokia was already circling the drain when Microsoft bought them and first Windows phones (Lumias) were fucking awesome. And then fucking moron Nadella killed Windows Phone.
When Microsoft bought Nokia, Steve Balmer (ex-Microsoft) was at Nokia helm. His work with Nokia was so much in the interest of Microsoft that he was rewarded with head chair of Microsoft not much time later.
You mean Elop? Ballmer was MS CEO when MS bought Nokia, but they were doing fairly well in the beginning. Fucking moron Nadella took over and killed Windows mobile. Despite publically admitting later that it was a mistake, he’s still a fucking moron.
The Windows Lumina phone was a battery-draining buggy version with a smaller screen than the Linux version N9, When they turned that into Windows (Lumina 800), they had to use a smaller screen and less memory as Windows couldn’t handle the hardware as MeeGo could.
N9 was perfect in every way except that it was abandoned. I miss that phone every day I use Android
Yet, that is the real Linux phone killer move by the former, Microsoft CEO for Nokia. Also the move that killed Nokia phones.
I’m a mobile developer and back around 2011 I was hoping like hell that Windows Phone would make it big. When you look at Xcode (for iOS), Eclipse (for Android and Blackberry) and MS Visual Studio (for Windows Mobile and Windows Phone) for mobile development, there was absolutely no comparison - it was Visual Studio all the fucking way. But Microsoft just decided to completely shit the bed and give up on mobile altogether. I still don’t get it.
Around that time WebOS (under Palm) had the Mojo SDK, it was pretty slick.
I’ve heard nothing but good things about WebOS but I never got the chance to try it out.
I loved it, it’s a shame that phone failed to find it’s market. Luckily Matias Duarte eventually incorporated the best parts into android. Swipe navigation is almost identical to webos
can’t get an windows 10 emulator for android?
I use Launcher 10. Close enough to a Windows Phone
I was always shocked how smooth windows phone was. This system had potential but well.
Honestly windows phone was sabotaged by both 3rd party developers who refused to port their apps to the platform, despite how easy it became AND did things like kill their own APIs to stop other developers from developing ports themselves, as well as by Google by not allowing their services on the platform.
The hardware was honestly top notch, even compared to my current S21 ultra. They were fairly pro consumer, having removable batteries, SD card slots and a 3.5mm jack right up until the end, even after the other big manufacturers removed them. And after the major update (the WP 8.1 update iirc) the software was really nice, intutive and pretty. I miss arranging and resising tiles, I miss having my pictures or album artworks showing up on the homescreen and I still use the Microsoft launcher on android to get the app drawer like I had on my WP.
Windows Phone was mostly sabotaged by first-party developers. Microsoft has a history of abandoning their mobile phone OSes after very short periods of time and nobody trusted them not to do it again. As a result few app developers bought into the ecosystem and smartphone enthusiasts told their friends not to get Windows phones, causing modest sales, causing Microsoft to immediately drop the platform.
As everyone expected them to.
What launcher are you using currently? I have Launcher 10 but I’m always looking for a new WP10 styled one to use
There’s a few android launchers that emulate the metro ui. I use the Square Home one and I have no complaints.
I’ve got Launcher 10. It’s my favorite of the WP10 likes I’ve seen and used. And I’ve used a ton lol
Looks pretty clean, and with a proper search in the app drawer. If I wasn’t so lazy and set in my ways, I’d switch :)
Sorry about making a repeat post earlier, I hadn’t seen the other posts that suggested using launchers. I think my sync might be a bit slow with syncing posts.
If I try it out and don’t like it, will my Nova Launcher screen go back to how it is now, or will I need to set it all up again?
If you dive into Nova’s settings, you should be able to make a backup of your setup. Should just be able to restore your backup. That said, I don’t use Nova much to confirm but that should be how it works
Edit: Dur I’m dumb. If you don’t uninstall Nova, you can just swap between launchers because they’re just apps. No backup needed as long as Nova doesn’t get uninstalled
Awesome! Thank you!
Yes, it was a shame, and it only died mainly due to the lack of available apps in the store and bad management. MS took too long to release it with Android and iOS already well established in the market… It was also the OS that resisted the longest in the Pwn2Own Hacking Contest in these years. While Android and iOS went down in less than a minute, before the hackers could access the data, on WindowsPhone they hit their teeth on a rock, after half an hour they could only access the cookies.
Microsoft fucked up in the smartphone market so many different ways. The misunderstood the UX paradigms that would work, refused to change when Apple had obviously stolen their lunch money, stayed the bad course they were on when Android stole Apple’s lunch money and then didn’t even notice it has slammed Microsoft into some lockers because that’s how little windows phone mattered. By the time Microsoft did like… Actual good market research and focus testing to build an actual good mobile os (maximally ironically based on their Zune UX which had failed previously because Microsoft was infinitely too slow to the mobile audio market) it was exactly as you said. The perfect mobile OS just 5 years too late to matter. More than anything what they needed to do was prove the apps you actually needed were present on their store and pay OEMs money to make windows phones to establish market share to make up for having a lower count of apps. They failed to do so. Now their actually genuinely brilliant mobile os only exists as a series of android apps that no one really gives a shit about.
This was not allowed before. Until just recently, the technology didn’t exist to place icons anywhere in the grid. They would automatically smoosh up into orderly rows starting at the top-left with no gaps between icons. Apple is continuing to develop cutting edge innovation, though, and now you will be able to leave entire rows and columns empty, or any specific icon space you choose!
Seems like a trivial programming task even my junior noob ass can handle.
Actually it’s because apps aren’t neutrally buoyant in the OS, they naturally float to the top
Dear god, someone needs to make a physics based home screen. It would be utter hell. When you move, it all gets tossed around.
Auto rotate works on all angles…
Widgets are now 3d boxes and you have to tilt your phone down and flip it until they face you.
Particle simulation home screen
There’s probably a live wallpaper for that.
I mean apps icons that are rigid bodies that are simulated
Oh oh. Gotcha. Imagine not being able to make an emergency phone call until it settled down.
No wonder it took so long, must’ve been a nightmare to get every different app neutral, what with their differing weights.
They had to invent whole new algorithms to he able to give the binaries of all apps the exact same Hamming weight
Counterpoint: green bubbles.
I thought this shit was a meme till I started texting someone yesterday to arrange a date, she said “you don’t have iPhone?”…
yikes, majority of the world uses android
I don’t text until we’ve had sex the first time as a rule, I show them my tiny penis and while they’re in shock I let them know about my android too.
Hahahaha brilliant
Do people not realize how vain and materialistic that makes them sound? As if iPhone ownership is the pinnacle of wealth or whatever
I knew a pretty well off dude who used a flip-phone…in 2018. If he wanted to do computer-type stuff, he just used a computer.
Ngl that’s kinda badass
Elliot Rodger vibes
No because the people they talk to who could tell them all have iphones too
Sounds like she saved you a lot of trouble, lol
Looking at iOS innovations going in android direction, they gonna make iphone with green bubbles someday and present it as amazing innovation, bet they even make you pay for subscription to make your bubbles green
A part of Apple’s Going Green initiative, for $99.99 weekly you can show everyone how green you are.
Another mother earth promo video incoming
Might want to mark this as sarcasm
What is sarcasm?
Never go /s. Let the rubes be confuddled. They deserve it.
Oh you mean that other completely artificial limitation that Apple insists on having in their os?
But they’re green, I don’t know how that can be changed.
Oh, it was sarcasm all along.
What is sarcasm?
Counter counterpoint: no one cares what color the bubbles are, except the person reading em. Sounds like an iOS problem 😉
But the green ones aren’t ripe yet.
counter counterpoint: color-coded bubbles for contacts and group chats
That would help me not accidentally sext my mother again.
She’s kinky af tho. 🥵
COURAGE!!
COURAGE!!
Are they letting you guys keep your screens on yet? Or is that something that’s being saved for 19? Probably not a big deal for most, but an always on display for time, calendar, and alerts without having to do anything to active my phone is clutch for me. When I see other peoples phones with blank black screens they look so dead.
It’s been around since 2022. Though I actually turned mine mostly off besides the clock because it’s just unnecessary and distracting the majority of the time. And super unhealthy.
Wouldn’t this drain your battery and cause burn-in on your screen?
Minimal / worth it / non impactful assuming you charge nightly anyway and no.
I love how concise your answer is
It does take more battery than just a blank screen, but it is kept extremely dim and automatically changes placement on the screen every so often so it doesn’t burn in. Also, if it doesn’t detect light (like if it were in your pocket) it turns off. I havent done the math, but i think playing a game on your phone for like 30 minutes would probably drain the battery a similar amount to a whole day if this display
Fucking weird comment
im stealing this for the next rational and highly upvoted comment i see
Just use the little arrows next time mate.
Fucking weird comment
They have actually introduced AOD, but only from the iPhone 15.
Their reasoning for not backporting the feature (unless phone is charging) is that the older models don’t have LTPO displays that go down to the 1hz they do in AOD on the 15. A stupid reason imo.
Huh? Always on display has been around in iOS for years. Since 2022 with the 14.
Ah! You’re right, they had it on the 14 Pro and Pro Max. That isn’t years though, its barely 1.5 years. (September '22)
It was just not on the normal non-pro models. iPhone 15 non-pro got it though.
That’s like…one, maybe two years
As compared with Android, which is like…decades
…I thought we all just stopped having apps the Home Screen when we could put them in the library and unclutter everything.
Yeah I have almost no apps on my Home Screen. Just one page of widgets, and 3 pinned to the bottom.
Otherwise if I want an app I just use spotlight. Quick swipe down and the first letter or 2 of any app and I’m in. I almost never touch the App Library.
This prob comes from using spotlight so much on Mac as well though.
I hadn’t considered the connection, but now that you mention it I use Spotlight pretty much exclusively on my Mac too. Hopefully they don’t mess that feature up in the future or I’m going to have to learn how to manually organize things.
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You’ve just moved the same problem somewhere else if you do that.
I run a “main” home screen with Clock, Calendar, Weather and Alerts, then the next one is apps I commonly use, separated into folders, tools, photography, entertainment, comms, MFA, and then the next screen is my email.
Eh, the default organization they put on the App Library doesn’t offend me. I did add a widget for Reminders and another for Music though.
That’s what I do. My home screen only has the time and weather on it. The next two screens have folders.
Thank you, I thought I was nuts for a minute.
I mean you still could be. I’m not a professional.
lol yeah I literally use Spotlight for everything, it’s way faster the majority of the time.
