It’s easy not to trust a system associated with charging you $500 for Tylenol. Much easier (and occasionally even safer) to just smell some lavender and hope that helps. Go to an ED and you could just die of a stroke or heart attack in the waiting room or even get run over by somebody who died of a heart attack while driving and just plowed through the waiting room because they couldn’t afford an ambulance. And the Healthcare system is largely failing because of insurance companies. Burn inhumana and united quacks to the ground 2k24.

Edit: also housing. Fix the housing crisis and the Healthcare system could probably pull through despite the odds. There’s a huge number of homeless people that just live in hospitals, especially psych wards and I’m not even kidding.

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    From a non-American’s perspective, I think part of the mistrust comes from Americans have been through high-profile lies perpetrated by government agencies.

    For example, a more recent one in the last few decades is the Food Pyramid/MyPlate that was/is promoted by the US government’s agriculture department. This has led to Americans in the late '70s/early '80s to start a war on saturated fat and cholesterol, and the rapid adoption of carbohydrates in the average diet. What has happened in the decades following is a rapid increase in metabolic diseases such as cardiovascular disease, diabetes, and mental illnesses — all of which were rare in human history prior to the '70s. While I’m glad Americans are waking up to the realisation of the mass brainwashing of what constitutes “healthy” food, I’m still upset that — due to the influence of America on the global stage — my own country has followed suit in adopting the US’s dietary guidelines to the detriment of our own health.

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      And that’s just one example.

      The most glaring generator of mistrust for decades now is the thing citizens discuss all the time but is never addressed: our out of control military budget.

      We could solve every one of our country’s financial issues multiple times over by reducing the military budget, and not even drastically so.

      Our military was tasked with an audit to reign in waste and spending. They couldn’t pass an audit so they were just given a free pass, no penalties or repercussions. The first audit was 2017 and they failed to pass. They failed two more since then. Senator Sanders intoruduced a bill in 2021 and again in 2023 which required an audit and was supposed to impose penalties for failure, it’s been introduced so we’ll see how that goes.

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          Thank you for that.

          I’ve long thought we need a non-military service branch much like you describe and for much the same resson.

          In my experience it isn’t just “rich” kids but anyone that grows up with minimal adversity and exposure to people outside their immediate (sheltered) bubble that are really hard to work alongside. Anyone who hasn’t been told “no” enough to understand the world doesn’t cater to them, really.

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    Personally, I blame the people telling the lies; e.g. the antivax campaigners, the tobacco companies, etc.

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      It’s tough when doctors have been liars too, like those who are hired to push a certain narrative by corporations, or those who participated in unethical studies, or basically all doctors to women saying all our problems are emotional and in our heads while ignoring objective medical facts/symptoms.

      When I see how differently men and women are treated in medicine, it’s hard to trust doctors to be objective. They’re just not.

      I’m doing my best to be a good little Democrat and look down on those who don’t trust doctors but geeze, experiencing a pregnancy and then giving birth in America makes it real hard to give doctors the benefit of the doubt.

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        Just wait until you or someone close develops an autoimmune disease, then the trust meter falls off a cliff during round after round of tests and “you’re fine”.

        Or if you have a bunion that skews your big toe 35° but they tell you it’s not bad enough for surgery and there’s nothing to be done for it.

        Or…yeah we could be here all day just for the system’s failings for me and my wife.

        And there’s our lack of or inadequate mental health coverage and care.

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        Any system capable of countering a determined attempt to spread misinformation would by design attach penalties to such lies, and those penalties would be enforced on the liars. What successful fix could even be proposed that withholds blame?

        • Penalising liars seems a lot like suppression of opinions that’s a very dangerous route to take. An most educated independent thinkers dont fall for most lies. So maybe fix the american education system and that should solve this problem pretty well. Blame them for being cunts sure but punishing makes unfiltered speech dangerous.

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    Not the reason. Lots of distrust in Europe too, where you can buy a box of paracetamol for just a few euro.

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    There’s so many things wrong with the Americans healthcare system, I don’t know how to find the most absurd one.

    But also the fact that you can advertise for medicin, and that the patient actually has a say in what they get at the doctor, is insane.

    Why would you trust those guys, if the medicin they sell is sponsored?

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      Just wait for what’s coming. The ACA set us up for monetization of healthcare on steroids, and it’s just about to hit critical mass. I think anyone engaged with the healthcare system today can see the enshitification accelerating.

      For just a sampling of what’s to come, there is a projected shortage of up to 86,000 physicians by 2036. It seems like doctors aren’t interested in joining the rest of us in working for slave wages to benefit Wall Street.

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        lack of residency spots by design and high student loans make becomming a primary care doctor a losing proposition. specialize to survive

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          Or go to work at an insurance company denying claims. It’s better money and less hassle.

          Residency is almost just a hazing ritual for gatekeeping . I honestly don’t think it makes doctors better. However, residency is not new, but the building doctor shortage is. My primary care physician of 20 years just retired early because the corporation that bought out his office was pushing him to take so many patients for such little compensation that it just wasn’t worth it.

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            corporation that bought out his office was pushing him to take so many patients for such little compensation that it just wasn’t worth it.

            Can we all agree that letting Wall St corps enshittify every aspect of our society so they can reap extreme profits at everyone else’s expense needs to end?

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          Yep. If you look into how the USA produces doctors, it is over giant hazing ritual created by a person who loved cocaine.