Wow. Such thing never happened to me on my Samsung phone. What’s your model?
Wow. Such thing never happened to me on my Samsung phone. What’s your model?
I wouldn’t be able to handle this. Been running GrapheneOS since last year, and I don’t think I could go back to anything else.
Actually started working on a GrapheneOS installation service called SwapMyOS that I think could be helpful to those who wanna install GrapheneOS but don’t how.
I kick a percentage back to GrapheneOS itself to keep the project funded and running (which is the primary motive behind the project).
What phone, if I may ask?
GrapheneOS only works on the Pixel line as of this writing.
Same lol, maybe a Linux phone one day so I don’t have to buy another Google phone but unless it runs all the same apps it’s unlikely
The only app I need to work on a linux phone is google maps. Although I haven’t checked how good openstreet map is now. Everything else has a linux alternative
I use public transport a lot and google maps is very helpful so unfortunately can’t live without it, last time I tried openstreet map it was useless for buses etc. As for alternative apps, I’m assuming I’d have trouble with, for example, banking apps, or obscure/niche apps such as my country’s one for booking public transport etc.? Just nice using something that can install all Android apps OOTB
Seems to work on my SailfishOS phone.
Try SailfishOS! Currently replying to you using it.
Sailfish OS does look interesting to be fair, I’ll for sure check it out when I need to get a new phone (hopefully not for a long time lol)
Do you know if it works with an S22?
GrapheneOS only runs on Pixel devices (including the Pixel tablet) because they’re the only ones that meet the strict security standards.
I know LineageOS supports some Samsung devices, but I didn’t see the S22 being supported.
Thanks.
It’s only for Pixel phones
Bummer. I guess I should start looking for a new phone.
Might be your carrier. T-Mobile had some app like that that I had to fight a few times to get rid of.
T-mobile apps are almost the entire reason I rooted my phone
It’s why I’ve been buying “unlocked” manufacturer-direct phones for years.
Yep I have an unlocked S20 and no such problems. Was surprised to see my wife lament updates on her S23 from tmobile because of this.
I would certainly recommend giving rooting it a shot, then you won’t have this problem anymore.
Thought about rooting my s10e. Providing someone knows how to follow directions, what are the chances of bricking my phone?
Odds are pretty low , and it’s not too terribly hard to unbrick an Android phone nowadays. I’ve rooted about 5 phones, only bricked one, and managed to restore and then successfully root the one I did brick. It took some patience, but was worth it.
Now I just run GrapheneOS which was much smoother and simpler to setup.
Great. As an appliance salesman I’ve been saying about Samsung that “well at least they make great phones and TVs” but now I can’t even say that.
I used to work doing dish, I used to suggest tv brands as, Samsung >Sony >lg and avoid everything else. But after all the shit Samsung does with their tvs, forcing their bullshit on them, forcing their smart tv shit over what you want. I no longer would suggest Samsung, they’ve fallen down to the likes of Roku.
On my Samsung tv I wanted jellyfin, needed to side load it. When doing so it blocked access to the Samsung servers and most Samsung features. I had no idea the tv could be so fast and responsive.
they’ve fallen down to the likes of Roku.
What’s the beef with Roku? I’m all in on Roku at home. I even got a new TV with Web OS or Tizen recently, I don’t remember. I hated the OS and went out and bought a Roku Ultra LT for it. Have I just accepted or gotten used to the crap? Like the Netflix, Hulu, etc buttons on the remote or are there other problems?
My parents have roku and I use it when I’m over there. Seems fine to me.
Far better than my xbox’s home screen
About that LG recommendation… LG wants to turn your TVs and other products into ad and subscription machines
I no longer would suggest Samsung, they’ve fallen down to the likes of Roku.
Funny you say that. LTT released a video not too long ago talking about how Roku is making a push into the mid market tv brands of performance per $.
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I think the only thing they make that is competent are their SSDs. Stay away from their batteries and phones. Also their “smart” TVs become slower and more ad infested with every update.
Never had any of their appliances, so can’t comment on those. The exploding washing machine story doesn’t inspire confidence though. My 80s Samsung AM/FM/cassette boom box is great though and still works.Basically they don’t work well with water. All of the samsung appliance complaints I’ve gotten have had to do with water leaking somewhere.
That’s why I quit Samsung, too much bloat.
I love my Pixels. Just solid, clean Androids.
Same. Granted, that was years ago. But it was pretty bad.
I think I’m going to switch back. The rooting process for Samsung phones seems super annoying.
First you have to unlock the bootllader. For US (Canada too maybe?) models its straight up impossible. And for models which can be unlocked, Knox gets tripped which leads to a whole host of other problems. Even then, you still don’t have custom ROMs to flash. This makes Samsung phones straight up unviable for me. Kind of sad to see when I had a really nice custom ROM experience with my first Samsung in 2014.
Just uninstalled this after seeing this thread. If you’re on AT&T like I am the package name for Mobile Services Manager is com.dti.att and it has nothing to do with your actual mobile services. All it does is push and update bloatware. I also nuked every AT&T app that I could. I recommend everyone who has Android Studio do this to their phone its easy.
Don’t buy carrier models.
It was hard when they were the only model available at the time, but sure.
So wait. Like gamers waiting for sales
So it’s AT&T that does this and not Samsung?
Yes, its the carriers. It was extremely easy to remove though as long as you have Android Studio downloaded.
Yes. On T Mobile I had to install their voicemail app before it stopped bugging me but no games.
Unbranded Samsung phones don’t have that.
Genuine question here, where are people buying phones that have all of this crap installed on them?
I have only ever bought unlocked phones directly from the manufacturer (pixel, nexus) or from a retailer like best buy and I have never had any carrier crap like this and I started with the nexus one.
I just get the phone and either transfered the physical sim or transferred the sim digitally, at no point has a carrier ever had the ability or permission to install apps on my phone.
I guess maybe because I never saw the point in buying carrier locked phones and always viewed that as a weird arbitrary lockdown(like buying a car that you can only drive on certain highways), I just avoided this? Is that where the bloat ware comes in?
I bought an unlocked phone directly from the manufacturer and still didn’t get the choice.
Inserting a SIM card wiped the phone and provisioned it, installing all sorts of carrier-provided apps with system-level permissions.
As far as I’ve found, there’s a few possible solutions:
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Unlock the bootloader and install a custom ROM that doesn’t automatically install carrier-provided apps. (Warning: This will blow the E-fuse on Samsung devices, disabling biometrics and other features provided by their proprietary HSM).
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Manually disable the apps after they’re forcibly installed for you. Install
adbon a computer and usepm disable-user --user 0 the.app.packageon every app you don’t want. If your OEM ROM is particularly scummy, it might go out of its way to periodically re-enable some of them, though. -
Find a SIM card for a carrier that doesn’t install any apps, then insert that into a fresh phone and hope that the phone doesn’t adopt the new carrier’s apps (or wipe the phone) when you insert your actual SIM.
Wait, inserting the SIM card WIPED the phone!? That’s insane!
For me inserting a SIM of a particular carrier did not wipe the phone but did install their bloatware on reboot.
Though, using adb to manually remove (actually remove not disable) all that bloatware plus DT Ignite did the trick. I have even rebooted my device and the bloatware did not return.
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In US it is common to buy carrier subsidized phones, and those come with their bloatware
When you buy them from mobile phone companies(T-Mobile, at&t,etc .)you get their bloat ware. This why I also get mine from the manufacturer. Fuck all that bloat ware and it’s unlocked as well.
Soooooo you don’t want to play solitaire Grand harvest?
What an awesome surprise! How did you even manage to get through the day before these amazing new apps came into your life? Just sit back, relax, and watch your bank account dwindle as you gamble it all away
This is why I don’t buy an Android device if it won’t allow me to unlock the bootloader and sideload a ROM of my choice. Android OEM operating systems suck nowadays (at least the ones I’ve been subjected to recently: Samsung’s and Xiaomi’s).
Not cool, Samsung.
The carrier does this. Not Samsung. How do people not know this?
Who makes it so the carrier can do this? Samsung, or Android (Google)?
They both allow everyone (including carriers) to install software, not unlike any phone manufacturer or OS does that I am aware of.
That seems rather shitty. Can I not blame Samsung for making and selling a phone my carrier can push unwanted software on without my consent?
You can, but it’d be like blaming Dell for ‘allowing’ Microsoft to annoy you with untimely updates. It doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to blame the manufacturer for that.
Between forced bloat, Bixby and faking the moon, Samsung has lost my respect as a smartphone manufacturer.
On the same page, last android device I had was a Samsung. Great hardware but really shitty software. It had two office suite (MS and Samsungs), Facebook and what not. All those I couldn’t uninstall only disable. Why the fuck I need to have Facebook installed on my phone?
This is why I don’t buy devices on contract with the carriers anymore. They’re always loading extra crapware that we don’t need.
Yea… Flashing grapheneOS has been the best I could ever do for my phone
Proprietary software moment…
