Please use a personal email. My email is ‘mail’ @ ‘my actual name’. It does not get more personal than that
But you can’t use emails starting with mail@, admin@, support@, info@, main@, etc.
Instead they advised me (3 times) to create a personal email on a service like Yahoo, Outlook, Gmail, Orange, etc
I haven’t ever used it, never signed a petition, but isn’t change.org only about petitions? I can kinda see their reasoning… They may even have had their hand forced to do it.
Loads of people who want their way probably signed up with tons of accounts to skew the results. If it’s going to work, I guess they need to be able to show that they’re legit, out at least that change.org are doing their best to make it that they are.
It’s easy to set up one gmail account for example and use it a million times with moving a dot throughout the name or putting a plus sign and anything after the username but before the @ symbol.
They still require you to confirm the email by clicking a link sent to that email, although someone mentioned that this may be an option to the creator of the petition
I do understand the requirement of not using . or + but blocking mail@ info@ seems too extreme to me.
Can be automated. Creating a new e-mail account is more annoying.
Automailers often have names like that i.e. noreplymail@companyname.com so it may be more about stopping spam or stopping people from using spam email accounts.
That sounds like nonsense.
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Could you not just make a second email account that you just use for things like this? Why is the only alternative to use your personal account? It takes like 2 minutes to make an alternate Gmail account lol
Had something similar happen with indiegala. Had an account with them for years, then one day, could not purchase some games randomly. Hit up their support and got the answer “Oh, the purchase was denied because your account’s email address is detected as a temporary email address”… The email address I’ve been using on that account… for years… Is temporary.
abuse@website-im-visiting.com
probably wouldn’t work as well …I create a new alias account on my email server for each new account. That way when I am done with them I can just delete it and never get their spam ever.
This is a feature, not a bug. The rest of us don’t want crap being sent to admin email addresses, so fix your damn email and try again.
Personally I use generated email addresses to most places, but my personal address is <FIRST>@<LAST>.us
The email i was trying to use was mail@ my actual name and surname.
It is very handy to share and easy for people to remember.
I dont feel that it needs fixing when it is perfect for me and my needs but not for some company that needs to be overly careful
Bro. You can’t sign a petition on change.org.
Just move on with your life.
sign me up
Agreed. Fuck this fake outrage era we live in.
The only outrage I see is in your comment 🙄
My friend uses me@<their name>, wonder if that would work better
Would an alias solve this?
With the tiniest, slimmest, barely existent bit of effort to make an alias - yes.
But OP would clearly prefer to complain.
I have all my admin/mail/webmaster/etc blacklisted a long time ago because those are the that get spam first when spammers parse lists of registered domains.
I wonder if abuse@'s get any spam…
Then I guess for security reasons you won’t be signing up.
Maybe we can start a change.org petition to get this resolved.
We can, op can’t
This took me too long to figure out🤣
So which corpo monitored email address did you end up going with?
As a person who ages ago created and single letter (before the @) email address thinking myself clever and efficient… I’m amazed and distressed how many forms have insisted that my email address is invalid.
Some developers prefer using half-baked regexes from stackoverflow, rather than reputable libraries for email address validation.
Hmm. Why am I mildly surprised that I can’t find anything non-regular about the syntax. There’s nested comments but that’s part of MIME quoting, not the actual address format, so it’s reasonable to not accept those in an HTML entry field because HTML is many things, but not MIME.
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I don’t know why single character email addresses would fail that test, though.
Could be that they get a huge amounts of bounces from those kinds of addresses. I’m sure at least half of Germany is using
a@bc.de
as the go-to “I don’t wanna give out my email” address.
As others have said, I’d suggest either:
- enabling a catchall address (which will redirect to anything@yourdomain.com --> spam@yourdomain.com)
- creating an alias: something@yourdomain.com --> mail@yourdomain.com
Both are done on your server/hosting side.
Is it possible to create an alias like fuckchange@domain?
But you can’t use emails starting with mail@, admin@, support@, info@, main@, etc.
If it’s exactly stuff like “mail@”, many mail systems will redirect stuff with a plus suffix to your main mailbox, like “mail+changeorg@”. That might be okay.
The image says they also exclude + and -.
Wouldn’t it make more sense to alias out each place you submit an email address to, so you can see who sells your contact details or otherwise gets hacked?
Eg: changeorg@yourna.me, netflix@yourna.me etc.?
I just go with full domain names. Like change.org@yourna.me. Even combos where data is shared, like shop.com-bank.org@your.name or jitsi.corp-gravatar.com@your.name. But some places actually went out of their way to disallow their own domains anywhere in the field. I’ve encountered it maybe like 3 times across all of ~1000 logins I have in my password manager.
And the amount of times I had to explain to people that yes, this is a legit email, yes it has your company’s name and your personal name in it, it is exactly as intended, so don’t send me spam because I will know it was you who sent it…
Yeah i set up a catch all mail now. It just seems like a very defensive method to me.
This is exactly what I do. When I start getting a bunch of spam addressed to Walmart@[my domain] I can blanket filter that straight into spam because I know Walmart sold my info.