Nintendo: “How about you don’t play those old games and buy our new games instead.”
I’ll buy your new games AND play the old games! You get the exact same amount of money either way!
I was told by my parents not to play with shit.
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Damn, what do we do now when we see an UnexpectedBillWurtz? Joking aside, I almost typed an r/ on reflex. It’s weird how hard it is to break some habits.
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In the future this link will open an agglomeration of all /c/UnexpectedBillWurtz on all instances
They don’t even “lose money” in either scenario. They just don’t make new money.
Businesses consider those the same thing unfortunately :/
I’d argue they consider not making new money worse, losing money means tax write offs.
The argument is the suppression of titles is to control the brand. Its indirect nonsense.
I used copies of old Nintendo games and they don’t get a single cut. I don’t see them shutting down those stores that sell them. Fuck Nintendo greed.
For a company who brags about not going to have issue even if they’re not making even a penny for years to come, they sure trying their best to get every penny they can.
No, they’re actually not. They leave a ton of money on the table every time they release a new console and then don’t sell their old games on it.
You’re supposed to wait until they re-release it on a new console with the same graphics for $70, then pay for it then, dummy.
Todd Howard, is that you?
Nintendo is run by old Japanese men who don’t understand technology. They still use faxes ffs when conducting business-critical decisions.
If you asked Shigeru Miyamoto “What is a ROM” he’s probably reply: “Is it 2.3cm Cashew San?”
You. Sound like a nice and smart person. Can you send me your 78 character friend code so I can enter it with a controller to add you?
Omg lmao yes this feature is so clunky and antiquated
If you don’t want to climb a mountain and part the sea for them, are you really friends with them? - Old Japanese dudes probably
I assume there’s an old Japanese proverb for everything, and they are only used when you don’t want to do something, but is a more polite way than just saying “No” or “I’m not fixing that”
Nintendo is the Disney of video games.
They want to take their content and squirrel it away in their vault, so for like 10 minutes you can buy the emulated recreation of some obscure title on some future platform where it’s digitally tied to the device and the online Nintendo store you bought it from, so when the console inevitably breaks or the store is shut down, you lose access.
All of this for a premium cost for a decades old game of dubious quality that only has value because of your nostalgia.
So stop emulating games so Nintendo can decide when they will gift you with the privilege of paying far too much for a game they didn’t make, which has a life expectancy, which will expire when they want it to.
Also piracy is bad! So stop it.
More companies should do like id Software and open-source their games after a set amount of time.
That would be pretty nice. But companies usually protect their IP, so they won’t go around showing how they code their games.
If they open source it isn’t it easier for other companies to release clones? Not identical but inspired on their code. At a lower cost because the engineering challenges of coding the game are already taught in there.
not sure if the programming and engineering problems of a game released 20 yeasr ago have too much relevance today
Ah ok, 20 years seems fair. I wonder if Nintendo is concerned people would rather play old emulated games for free instead of buying new (expensive) games.
Or are they planning to monetize these old games at some point? Imagine if they provided a monthly subscription to a library of emulated games for Switch. Playstation does this in the Premium subscription layer.
Anyways, if they are going after people emulating 20yo games, that’s pretty unreasonable. That’s some penny-grabbing shit right there. How much people actually emulate games anyways? How much people want to play 20yo games anyways? I can’t imagine that being any kind of threat to their income.
They want you to buy a Switch and Switch Online to play those games.
And if they did it would only be to inspire new games.
Id didin’t open source the game. They open sourced the game engine. So you can download gzdoom which is an open source port of the original doom engine, but you still need to own the original game for the game files in order to play it.
They don’t even lose money, they just don’t earn any.
Yup. And it wasn’t money they would have gotten anyway so big N gets mad about nothing.
As is tradition.
Because video game companies never relaunch franchises to capitalize on nostalgia. The mental gymnastics you people play to justify copyright infringement is amazing.
Nintendo isn’t making money off those games now. Might they have plans to relaunch older games on newer consoles in the future? What do you think? Crazy right.
History has shown that if you make it easy to access something, people will generally prefer to access it legally rather than using piracy, because most people are willing to pay for something if they have the option and if it’s relatively affordable. Trying to stop piracy doesn’t help sales, let alone hypothetical future sales, so trying to stop roms of older games won’t help them make more profit when they relaunch/re-release older games on newer consoles. So it’s still pointless. Not to mention that people playing those older games in the meantime keeps them in the public consciousness longer and so more people are likely to know about them, hear about them, and want to buy them when they’re available through official channels.
There was a point in time before HBO {Now,Max} where HBO was only available through a cable subscription add on. HBO shows were always the most pirated shows because of how difficult it was to watch, while avoiding spoilers. An old The Oatmeal comic sums up the experience best.
That’s a good “what if” there, but no.
Would buying used games also undermine their efforts to capitalize on relaunching a franchise?
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The mental gymnastics you people play to justify copyright infringement is amazing.
I don’t need mental gymnastics. All I need are ROMs.
Pirating games is kinda a pain in the ass these days and I don’t even bother on PC
But I will pirate as much from Nintendo as possible. From their price fixing in the 80s and 90s to hostility towards people who want to buy games to people not even being able to get games they’ve paid for…
Fuck Nintendo
They could easily set up a permanent library of ALL previous titles for sale along with emulators for each new console they release. Nintendo could re-sell you every game they have ever made every time they drop new hardware, but nope, just a big fuck you.
I know this is a pipedream, but I hope behind the scenes this is what they’re doing. It’s probably impossible to secure the rights from game companies which are no longer in business, but if they’re able add third party titles to the Nintendo Switch Online membership, and have it include games up to the Wii U era, that would be a pretty good subscription model.
I think they key would be centering it around a good online multiplayer lobby system to play the multiplayer version of these old games. This is a value add that you don’t get via emulation. The current system of needing to be friends first is a big hurdle to play most of these games in NSO.
Also disassociate the name from the console. Don’t call it Nintendo Switch Online and call it Nintendo+ or some shit. Have this service be available on all platforms and easy for anyone to use without Nintendo hardware.
But who am I kidding, this is Nintendo, they’re not going to do any of this and just sit on their stacks of cash and make The new New Super Mario Bros. exclusively for the Nintendo Switch 2
Doesn’t lose them money, the used game woudn’t make them money anyway which is why they lobbied to try and make reselling used games require a royalty or be illegal for years before everything became digital.
As for emulation they lie and call emulation itself illegal (the copies may be but emulation itself is not) because then they can’t pull a disney and “vault” old games on their digital storefronts and make you buy it again when they decide to just up shut down the previous server when they launch the next console.
They don’t want us to own the things we pay for. They want us to rent them while not realizing it.
They don’t want us to own the things we pay for.
The real answer right there.
You do own what you paid for. You didn’t pay for accessibility on any hardware platform for the rest of eternity.
That’s functionally the same thing when what you own is digital and limited to a specific service.
The games aren’t being sold anymore and so it’s not affecting Nintendo. Hence what’s the point?
I literally had to look for a patched Chrono Trigger Rom with Spanish translations bcuz nor Square Enix, nor Nintendo ever released it with spanish dialogues in mind. Now my little sister is able to enjoy it, and it is always thanks to the community that Nintendo despise. So as always fuck Nintendo as a corporate and most important:
You could say…
NintenDON’T wanna see you playing old stuff
When Nintendo started Virtual Console, I was really impressed, because instead of fighting emulation, they embraced it and made money off of it. All of these old games were just potential profit that they were sitting on. On top of that, they even managed to get games from non-Nintendo consoles onto VC!
Then, they discontinued it, and I’m sitting here, scratching my head and trying to figure out why. Nintendo is a strange company. They have an undeniably awesome product and very talented and creative developers, but also pretty bone-headed management.
They have brilliant, and creative game designers who love their work. They also have managers and lawyers who hate their fans with the passion of 1000 supernovae, and the wrath of 3000 women besmirched.
I mean lots of media has always worked that way. Build up the nostalgia to increase what people are willing to pay. Before VHS, Disney would lock up their movies and bring them out to theaters every couple of decades making way more money than if they put it on TV. It drives demand. And they think it should be their decision whether to satisfy that demand or not.
They called it the “Disney Vault”. They did the same for VHS too, they would re-release old movies onto VHS for a limited time and then it would “Go back in the Vault”. Its an annoyingly effective marketing scheme and I hate that almost all studios do this with their shows and movies now.
Same thing with DVD and Blu Ray, heck if you still buy those plastic data disks they still do it.
Yeah, just not as effective after VHS since you only have to buy it once, or just illegally copy someone else’s. I think that’s what Netflix mostly was used for in the DVD days. Rent the movie to be copied and shared.
