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    In case anyone missed the reference, this is based on a work found painted on the walls of Fransisco Goya’s dining room after he died. You’ll often hear it called “Saturn Devouring His Son”, but the work was never titled or displayed publicly. There’s really no good reason to believe that the devourer is Chronos/Saturn, that the devouree is even a child, or that either body is male.

    I personally like to think of it as Untitled (Dining Room).

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      I agree, the fact that the painting was never titled or displayed publicly adds a lot to the work. It was just in his dining room, alongside other similar paintings, if I recall. That context makes the already unnerving work hit harder. Thanks for sharing this tidbit

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      I’m a big fan of Goya’s (drowning?) dog painting, another of his Black Paintings that nobody knew about before he died

      The Dog (Goya)

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        Yeah wow that’s incredible. That dog looks very alone and scared, I could see how people say drowning. Cresting a hill was my first thought.

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      Wait, I knew what it was normally called but never heard of the context. Did this person depict lots of mythological figures?

      Apologies if this is common knowledge, I am incapable of remembering certain things.

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        Did this person depict lots of mythological figures?

        Nope! It’s been a few decades since my art history lectures but my memory is (and wikipedia agrees) that he did a lot of portraits and battle scenes. IIRC his battle paintings inspired Picasso’s. His late work is especially dark - madness and horror type stuff. Sinister distorted figures. They’re often called The Black Paintings.

        if this is common knowledge

        Quite the opposite. This painting was used in a slide in my greek mythology class during the lecture about the titans and chronos. Then in an art history class I learned the context, which I feel is much less known.

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          TIL!

          Various interpretations of the meaning of the picture have been offered: the conflict between youth and old age, time as the devourer of all things, the wrath of God and an allegory of the situation in Spain, where the fatherland consumed its children in wars and revolution. There have been explanations rooted in Goya’s relationships with his son, Javier, the only of his six children to survive to adulthood, or with his live-in housekeeper and possible mistress, Leocadia Weiss; the sex of the body being consumed cannot be determined with certainty. If Goya made any notes on the picture, they did not survive, as he never intended the picture for public exhibition.

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          That is very interesting. I’ve also heard of it only as Saturn Devouring His Son. It’s my favorite painting though I must admit that I’ve not read up on it. It just fascinates me. I had no idea. Makes the painting even better.

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            Yeah, it’s one of my favourites too. So immediately striking. I don’t think it would’ve occurred to me to read up on it - what’s to read about? There’s just the figures and the act, nothing else. But then you find out that it’s somehow even more goth.

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      It’s the comic sans of art movements. It works really well for what it was designed for (eye-catching, inoffensive, and simple) but its both overused and misused in enough places that people have soured on it over the years.

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        I’ve got a visceral reaction to it now and see it as threatening and as a sign to run far as fuck from whatever I’m being sold.

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      I also want this as a canvas print. If you find one, let me know where.

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    I love it. It’s the perfect illustration of a metaphor for enshittification.

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      And it’s pretty fun! You won’t get endless replayability like from other rogue likes, but it’s fun for 5-10 hours.

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      I’m still pretty impressed Aggro Crab went straight from a game like that to Another Crab’s Treasure, or Crab Souls as some have been labeling it.

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      There’s a great Mac game from 1997 called Harry the Handsome Executive, where you zoom around on an office chair and weild a staple gun. The first level is you looking for a window so you can experience natural light again.

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      Going Under

      Donno if weird coincidence but there’s a free game on Itch about an employee going on a rampage in a corporate office named Rising Up. You can just watch it on the official itch channel on YT. Also Piped link. Reaffirmed my love for video games 🤣