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    You thankfully appear to have not been exposed to a “proper” hexbear thread where all they can do to communicate is call you a shitlib for doing things like acknowledging genocide.

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      You mean like all the biden supporters on here defending his support for genocide?

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      Do you have examples? I am not doubting, since I’ve seen loads of people saying it. But I’ve never come across it myself.

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        I have the entire instance blocked in my client, so I can’t even go searching for a thread for you. But if you don’t, it should be incredibly easy to poke the hexbear, so to speak. Lemme grab you a link…

        Here, this one should work. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Uyghurs_in_China

        Find an appropriate sublemmy on Hexbear and post this, ideally in a context that explicitly declares you oppose genocide. You’ll get nothing but the following in your thread:

        1. Accusations that you are a “shitlib”. Any attempt by you to find out what this word means will result in additional mockery.
        2. Denials of the Uyghur genocide.
        3. Adoration of the CCP, especially Xi Jinping (but Hexbear likes any authoritarian tyrant in China, so any CCP politician may end up adulated).
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          Lol. Absolute nonsense. Every time anyone is asked for an example of bad Hexbear behaviour they can only ever say “I HAVE NO EXAMPLES BUT I PROMISE IT WILL HAPPEN”. Speak about other people like they’re human beings pl0x

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          I do agree that the hard left seems to enjoy using “liberal” as an insult, knowing that what most Americans interpret as “liberal” is different than the academic definition they use. It needlessly diverts the conversation and makes them think they’re superior.

          Saying “shitlib” is even worse. Basically an adhom attack, not acceptable when the other party is being civil and respectful.

          On #2 and #3, I don’t think that is relevant to the original accusation. Of course they will uphold their own views. But #1 is very valid. Though I wish to see examples of it because I have not.

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    The only things I know about Kiwifarms is that it was a federated instance and that Cloudflare got flak for not taking them down sooner.

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    sign up to a non pedo instance that list and you’ll actually see and talk about stuff instead of having a leftoid circle jerk.

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      Yeah, lovely conversations about how jews control the world, how non-whites are destroying the world, how “certain people” being genocided wouldn’t be bad

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    How bad are these that Hexbear didn’t even make the list? Drilling through on the clickable version here makes it clear that the #1, poa.st, has the same basic content as Hexbear, but I’m assuming it’s somehow way worse. Just imagine.

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      hexbear isn’t even malicious. hexbear is spicy at best. not nearly as bad as lemmygrad, which is outright repugnant in its overt hostility. hexbear users are at least CAPABLE of communicating, whereas in my experience lemmygrad users pull the animal farm squealer move and defecate on the floor before storming out.

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          How did Hexbear ever harass everyone here? Lemmy.world never even federated with them for a second.

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            You’re misunderstanding what I mean. .world’s advent marked a paradigm shift where .ml was no longer the “default” lemmy instance. So long as hexbear was federated with the “default” lemmy instance, they were able to inflict their insanity on everyone else. Now .world provides a large part of lemmy insulation against them.

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              Yeah, every now and then I hop over to an account on another instance, and immediately remember why I tend to hang out on .world…

              .world isn’t perfect, but holy hell some of the other instances are just buried in tankie BS.

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        Hexbear suffers from the nazi bar problem, they’re not ALL tankies, but they sure do hang out with a lot of them

        I just don’t have the time to sus out who’s who and it’s much easier (and less massive-shock-image-spamming) to use an instance that’s defederated with them

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        I’m on hexbear. It’s a good community. It’s leftist though so conservatives and libruls won’t like it. But you can have a good argument and find like minded people.

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          Hexbear rules. 40 year old liberal tech nerds who grew up on American propaganda hate it because they hate change and congregations of young people.

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            I don’t hate change, I hate Putin apologism from a space that claims to be left wing.

            More to the point I hate brain dead takes like “voting is not harm reduction and if you don’t go 3rd party in 2024 you’re no better than a fascist”

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          Before I blocked the instance I had nothing but miserable interactions with Hexbear users, and it had nothing to do with political opinions.

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            Shame. My condolences. When people feel this way it doesn’t help. Rock on, Comrade🤘🏿

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          It’s the kind of place you go when you are bored out of your mind, online and want to see some circus shit going on without being sprinkled in toxic dung

          It’s horrible but stomachable and you get to see very special people you didn’t know exist. A living cautionary tale of going too far

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            I don’t have that experience at all. But I’m not there to try and win any battles. Lots of true allies.

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              I mean they are literally Mao Zedong figures with rainbow clothes it’s fucking bizzare. I never expected to see gay Chinese communists and queer soviets hence for me it’s like a trip

              I only had similar feeling when seeing dark skinned Polish aryans neonazis, the clash of history is just too funny or at least it would be if it was a stand up comedy and they didn’t want to kill me on sight, just like the hexbears for that matter

              In any case as long as you pretend to be one of em it’s always super nice, cult like, sisterhood but they have cute tendency for wanting to kill you immediately after you reveal yourself

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                I can see the broad strokes you are painting with. I’m not them, I’m there. That is all. Continue working to bring down the patriarchy!🏴🏴🏴🤘🏿

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          The thing is, you can ONLY have a conversation with extremely like minded people. If you are not tip-of-the-left authoritarian, you are called a filthy lib and shunned.

          Sadly it just suffers the same syndrome as that conservative sub on reddit: “Anyone who doesn’t agree with me on every important and semi important point is literally the same as my worst enemy and I will fill their inbox with insults”

          I disagreed with the way they often brigade posts and they said I was “indiscernible from the racist, fascist party” from my country. Like they went through the effort of looking up where I was from and the political parties there to find the most right wing one to name call and insult me with lol. That says a lot about the community culture, in my opinion.

          It also has heavy Russian apologist content. Like, I even understand that MLs love China and excuse everything they do, but Russia is literally an right wing oligarchy with no health care and crippled social benefits that is led by an extreme right wing authoritarian fascist. I get that they are China’s ally by the enemy-of-my-enemy principle, but that doesn’t mean they are automatically good.

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            Not like over here, where I just mentioned another community I belonged to. Very different😒. Congratulations!

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              Ha, true. Well on the bright side, it looks like you only had one person insult you and they didn’t try to dox you so at least the lashback is quite tame 😅 I would call that a very positive experience if we were over there haha

              Everyone hates everyone I guess…

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                lol the last time I was doxed was some MAGA freak on Nextdoor. Now that’s a fucking cesspool of filth…

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          It may well be “leftist”, but it’s also maximum authoritarian. Hexbears love fascism like a raccoon loves trash. If you’re anything but a full-on Nazi, absolutely including being a genocide denier, you’ll be relentlessly attacked on there.

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            Just not true. There are a lot of anarchists on there. In fact a large portion of their emotes are dedicated to left unity.

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              Left unity is a lie perpetuated by tankies so we’ll be more compliant when they shove us against the wall.

              Edit:after looking though the comment history, this account is clearly a Hexbear Alt. 24 in 2 months the last burst was over a month ago, and the first dealing directly with Hexbear.

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                Utter nonsense, left unity is real. And yes, I have accounts on both, I didn’t realise that was a secret spy crime :)

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      they’re neo nazi pedophiles iirc and in the brief time i was on a fedi instance federated with them i saw one of them trying to goad a trans person i knew with suicidal tendencies to kill herself because he thought it would be funny. like its so many orders of magnitude worst its just completely stupid to compare them at all. Like here’s some of the defed reasons from the top of the incredibly long list of instances that have defedded it:

      Nazi content
      Racism
      antisemitism, racism, homophobia
      Nationalsozialistisches Gedankengut
      Hate speech
      racist slurs, anti-semitic stuff, etc
      Nazisme, Transphobie, Racisme, Antisemitisme
      Admins are having Nazi symbolics in their profile
      racism, pedophilia, harassment
      Serveur d’extrême droite / Néonazi
      Repeated harassment targetting specific users
      Transphobia, Hate Speech, Nazi Symbology. Lack of Moderation.
      Homophobia, transphobia
      Hosting neonazis
      transphobia / homophobia / racism / queerphobia / nazi combo instance

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      On sync at least if you open tall images from the post it will be readable.

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      Some mobile clients open the thumbnail version of images. If you instruct your client to open the image in a browser, you’ll see that the url has thumbnail instructions appended to the end and those can be trimmed off of the end to show the full image.

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        What mobile clients are those and why are people using them? The image displays perfectly in Voyager.

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    Can someone give me a brief rundown on what it means to be federated vs defederated? New to lemmy

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      Really basic summary

      Federated means that instances are connected, i.e. lemmy.world accounts and posts can interact with sh.itjust.works ones.

      Defederated means that one of the instances is blocked by the other, so all communication between the two is blacklisted.

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        Oh okay, that makes sense. And I’m assuming “Defederations” in the image is like the number of accounts in that defederated group?

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          The number of instances, not accounts. The instance is the entire server. All of Lemmy.world would be one instance.

          Worth noting that there are lots of people who also run personal instances off of their home server. So like they may be the only user in that instance, or have a few friends who use it too. And they would also count as one instance on this chart.

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          It’s the number of instances that have blocked them.

          Accounts can’t defederate afaik. There’s a way to block instances on some apps, but it’s client-side and really just hides posts from that instance.

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              they’re pedophile nazis who do harassment campaigns against minorities basically

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              I don’t know the whole deal with them, but off the top of my head I know it’s a very far-right social media site that was fairly mainstream for a while. It got a lot of media coverage after getting hacked, so I guess a lot of people ended up blocking it once they heard of it.

              I don’t know the full story. They were probably just a bunch of trolls like a lot of the other instances.

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    Yeah? Can you provide even 1 example of someone on Hexbear posting something a) civil and b) not fascist?

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    What is varishangout…net? Initially read it as yarishangout.net and wondered why a space for Toyota Yaris owners got defedded. Also wondering how stereophonic.space got defedded?

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    Is this your overview? If so maybe you could decode some of the punycode in the domains