What Cuba doin?
Pretending that they matter
OP is a China shill. Review his post and comment history. He’s spamming all the news communities with stuff like this.
Articles from Al Jazeera? What exactly is your standard for journalism that even Al Jazeera is considered to be too biased for you? It’s not like OP is posting FoxNews articles or anything.
regardless of the previous comments (which were removed I don’t know what he was saying) but the reliability of Al Jazeera is questionable https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Jazeera_controversies_and_criticism
You have to scroll a bit, but you can eventually see comments made by the OP, supporting CCP, criticizing Western countries and capitalism, claiming Tibetans love CCP and that China and Tibet are one country, etc. Definitely a shill.
Exactly this.
I’m not disputing the story. I think knowing the OPs motivation for posting it is useful info.
Meh. Would he be a shill if he was attacking all of that?
Seems like ‘shill’ is being tossed around as ‘goes against the status quo.’
I don’t agree with what he says, but I’ll defend his ability to say it here. If it bothers me too much, I can just block him and move on with my life.
Well for one they publish transphobic articles
Can you link to any?
Does that somehow negate the point of the article to show that the US keeps violating Cuban sovereignty and is now, or maybe has already been, sending nuclear subs there much to Cuba’s disdain?
Are you claiming this is fake news or just that the they have an ideological motivation for posting news of real events that makes the US look poorly?
The US submarine is in territory that it legally rents from Cuba.
It’s not violating Cuba’s rights any more than you violate your landlord’s rights when you invite someone to your apartment that your landlord doesn’t approve of.
I mean, China does the same thing with Taiwan and Japan. People post articles about that all the time but they’re not called ‘shill’ because they support the popular narrative.
Because people think there is a real risk that China will invade Taiwan. Which is not unreasonable, given that China said it considers Taiwan to be part of China and occasionally makes vague threats about ending its independence. Hence their military maneuvers are a potential escalation.
In contrast, the US came to its senses about 50-60 years ago and finally realized that invading Cuba would be stupid and pointless. Since that flash of insight, the US hasn’t “escalated” anything when it comes to Cuba. Nowadays Americans can barely remember that Cuba exists.
They have motivation to post news that reflects poorly on the US. That is propagandizing. Read about the comments OP has made.
Okay, so once again, do their comments invalidate posting this news? Do you prefer to only read positive news of the US? Or do you think only pro-US people can post news that reflects poorly on the US?
You say propagandizing as if it is inherently bad, but as of right now this “propaganda” just makes one critical of the US or makes the US look poorly. As a Leftist, I don’t think it’s a bad thing for people to be critical of the US’s imperialist behavior in Latin America and elsewhere. Do you think it is not justified to think poorly of the US?
Their opinion on China, or whatever else, is one thing and thinking poorly or critically of the US is another and they are not necessarily mutually dependant as if everyone who thinks critically of the US will suddenly love China. So, once again, this just sounds like liberal posturing to me.
Missing the point. You can rant on YouTube or something.
Damn, I’ve been so owned.
OP is well within their right share information critical of the US.
People are also well within their right to point out the political bias of a poster.
Another dumbass liberal, I wish all of you stayed on reddit.
No one is arguing about these so-called “rights”. My point is to ask what people like you hope to accomplish with your comments on a post that had nothing to do with ‘shilling China’. Should I go and follow you around on all irrelevant posts saying you’re a capitalist, pro-US shill? What would that accomplish exactly, besides making me look like an idiot? I’m a Leftist that doesn’t even like nor support China but you’re all such insufferable hypocrites.
So you’re also a china shill.
Welcome to the Fediverse, if you cared so much about our opinions you would’ve stayed behind your firewall in China.
I’m not disputing the story. I think knowing the OPs motivation for posting it is useful info.
Okay, so what is your point in spamming all his posts with these comments?
What difference does it make to anyone just interested in the article if what you’re saying is true? If it doesn’t impact this story he posted, what’s the point? Do you think they’re going to get banned? Or do you think people will bother to remember this user’s handle and remember that you said they were a Chinese shill? Besides, do you ever go around claiming people are US or pro-capitalist shills? I’m no fan of China but just seems like you commenting this way is just liberal posturing to me.
Why make a big deal about a nuclear submarine when a single US fighter jet could probably level most of Cubas infrastructure? This is just a weird PR statement of false outrage.
Because the US doesn’t have the right to wave around wepons of mass destruction in other people’s territory, especially for no obvious reason
The USS PASADENA (SSN-752) doesn’t carry weapons of mass destruction. It is a nuclear-powered submarine, not a nuclear-weapon carrying submarine.
And the reason it went to Cuba is:
A U.S. Defense official, speaking on condition of anonymity to provide details of a military operation, said the Navy submarine made a scheduled logistics stop at Guantanamo Bay. It then continued south to participate in UNITAS, the world’s longest-running multinational maritime exercise.
Agree with the reason or not, and agree with the base or not, it is a reason for being there and it’s not “waving around weapons of mass destruction in other people’s territory for no reason”.
It’s intriguing to observe the unfolding geopolitical chessboard. With China allegedly operating a spy base in Cuba since 2019, and now negotiations for a joint military training facility, it seems the legacy of the Cold War is echoing into the 21st century, with the game pieces shifting and alliances being redrawn. A testament to the intricate and ever-evolving nature of global politics.
Which is why the US should try and mend relations with the island.
Won’t happen without major political changes in the US and/or the outright end of the current government in Cuba.
Most Americans don’t really care about foreign policy, and even fewer care about Cuba policy in particular. But almost all the ones that do care about US policy towards Cuba happen to live in south Florida and have been loyal republican voters since they or their families came here after the revolution. There’s basically no political upside for anyone to loosening restrictions, and nothing but upside for Republicans pandering to the Cuban expatriate community.
The incentives are completely set up to keep the status quo in place.
Unfortunately that ship may have already sailed. We tried, however in light of these actions, the Cuban government may see us as too unreliable to stake their future on. Hence their subsequent buy-in on China.
Oh I know. Elections have consequences, something people apparently needed to see for themselves.
