• Monument@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
    131·
    6 months ago

    Wait. Are the Trump folks sharing those memes because they’re so stupid they’re funny?

    I guess I’ve always found Trump so offputting and taken white nationalist christian fascism so seriously that I never considered those to be shitposts.

  • Fades@lemmy.worldEnglish
    292·
    6 months ago

    The man bought a gun and owned it for like 9 days many years ago around the same time he was filming himself on drugs. Every gun owner in a state that buy legal cannabis in any fashion would be guilty of the same thing. It’s just a bad law because you can be an alcoholic (which is a drug, hence a drug addict, hence requiring those to lie on the form) with as many guns as you want.

    • Dasus@lemmy.world
      3·
      6 months ago

      Or idk, perhaps try to keep guns away from any substance abusers, be the substance they abuse legal or not.

      But that’s specifically abuse I’m talking about, not reasonable recreational use.

        • Dasus@lemmy.world
          1·
          6 months ago

          Of course it is.

          But preventing abusers from getting guns is much easier in a system where the default is not “until proven crazy, anyone can have a gun”.

          So where I live you need a doctor’s note saying you don’t have issues like that before getting a gun.

          Ofc you can develop the problem after getting the permits, but I know a few gun owners who developed an alcohol problem and one so massive they started being violent towards others when properly pissed.

          Both had their guns taken away.

    • ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      11·
      6 months ago

      Actually question “21. f” on ATF form 4473 is:

      Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance?
Warning: The use or possession of marijuana remains unlawful under Federal law regardless of whether it has been legalized or decriminalized
for medicinal or recreational purposes in the state where you reside.

      So “yes, and alcoholics too, technically. Alcohol is a depressant.”

      Thing is unless you’ve got prior convictions or get caught with both the gun and a substance, or try to buy the gun while obviously fucked up on something, it’s kinda hard to catch.

      I suppose if you film yourself on drugs and then forget to go “no that wasn’t real drugs, it’s fake” like how they filmed Nice Dreams and didn’t get arrested for the weed, and then people put a political target on your back, then yeah that might get you caught too.

      Also it’s a dumb rule and should be stricken from the form. Especially weed FFS, which also should be legal.

      • Shapillon@lemmy.world
        1·
        6 months ago

        Are you sure about this? My English may be a bit rusty but doesn’t the “or any other controlled substance” imply that only controlled depressants count?

      • dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world
        3·
        6 months ago

        I am not a lawyer.

        I did some rapid web searches to dig in here because I was curious about how this might be abused. It turns out that is better worded than it would at first appear. I think the trick here is it depends on whose definition of “depressant, stimulant, narcotic” you go by.

        For example, the CDC considers caffeine a stimulant, but the FDA says it’s a “food additive”. So there’s no FDA schedule for caffeine, which means you also can’t get a prescription for caffeine pills, nor pay for them through insurance. But that also means it’s arguably not a drug or “stimulant” under this definition.

        Meanwhile, alcohol labeling is handled by the FDA, but it looks like everything about the substance itself falls under the ATF (it’s in the name after all). The ATF seems to take great care to not categorize alcohol as a depressant and goes out of its way to never call alcohol a “drug” (example). And, as it turns out, (Federally) alcohol is not a controlled substance.

        • ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          1·
          6 months ago

          Interesting, of course, I still think the law is dumb especially regarding weed, but you may be right they have it carved out as an exception with booze/caffeine. I wonder what would happen in court on a case like that, who’s definition would be used, or could it possibly be argued based off the definitions and it’d be the case that sets a precedent.

  • shalafi@lemmy.worldEnglish
    981·
    6 months ago

    That’s honestly he most disturbing picture of Jesus I’ve ever seen. Visceral disgust kinda reaction.

    Like a poor, scrawny carpenter was some ripped American meatball. Fuck me, I’m an atheist and this is gross.

    • frezik@midwest.social
      165·
      6 months ago

      He probably was jacked. Being a carpenter back then meant going into a forest, cutting down a tree, and hauling it out of there.

      • BowtiesAreCool@lemmy.world
        23·
        6 months ago

        Except he wasn’t a “carpenter” in the sense that we think of it. He wasn’t a woodworker building tall tables and chairs. The translation would be more accurate as “builder” or “construction worker”. Would still be in good shape, but nothing out of the ordinary.

        • GiveMemes@jlai.lu
          4·
          6 months ago

          You know construction workers are jacked compared to desk workers right? Like if you take a random construction worker and a random office worker, neither of which lift, the construction worker is going to tend towards both more mass overall (as it helps prevent injuries) and more muscle mass (because working out as your work tends to do a lot for your body)

          • Semi-Hemi-Lemmygod@lemmy.worldEnglish
            6·
            6 months ago

            They’re either built like trucks or real wiry. Though the wiry guys tend to do more climbing which might explain the difference.

        • frezik@midwest.social
          5·
          6 months ago

          Damn straight. I’ll only accept a Jesus into my heart who can bench press a camel.

          Edit: and then karate kick it through the eye of a needle. (Also, my instance is having problems and I don’t know how that was posted extra times.)

    • zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev
      4·
      6 months ago

      That’s because he’s wearing an American flag and as a nation founded under God like it says in the pledge of allegiance and on our money, and you godless atheists are sickened by the true meaning of our nation. /s

      • Encrypt-Keeper@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        6 months ago

        My favorite part about that nonsense is that until 1954-55 God didn’t appear either in the pledge of allegiance or on our money. You can bet your bottom dollar if you took that line out of the pledge though conservatives would have a fit over “Woke revisionism” even though it itself is a revision.

  • Cosmicomical@lemmy.world
    30·
    6 months ago

    I now understand the feeling of cultural appropriation. I’m atheist but I grew up catholic and that depiction of jesus is culturally inappropriate

  • Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world
    112·
    6 months ago

    The left/liberal/Democrat voters aren’t going to use this perfectly good lay up to troll the right with symbolism like this or the obvious throw their opponents views back at them. Too much work. They will instead take the opportunity to miss their shot and shit on people they think are beneath them, like Jesus.

    • retrospectology@lemmy.world
      101·
      6 months ago

      Isn’t this meme throwing their rhetoric back at them though? It highlights how absurd it looks when they make this crazy religious political rhetoric that makes a criminal out to be some “godly” man.

      This cynical use of religion is a pretty good satirization of what right-wingers do.