This is comparable to a loud family feud carried out on the streets with yelling and throwing stuff at one another and then yelling at the shocked onlookers to move away.
We’re the family that gets kicked out of the Applebee’s for having a very loud and emotional fight while some other family is trying to celebrate their kid’s 8th birthday
Nope, you can’t stand there for generations going “LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME!” Then get shitty when we do, we want to watch you drive that burning bus into the the ocean.
It’s just a face, and doesn’t usually represent the people.
Prez has little power when compared to most world leaders. Their lead is more of a cultural one.
So to say, it’s really not so violently serious
I wish Prez had been real, and not just a Sandman president.
We’re literally the family with the drunk uncle who’s really fun at parties but now the alcoholism has caught up and he just gets sad and angry when he gets drunk.
We’re Amy Winehouse/Lindsay Lohan/Britney Spears. We love(d) the limelight, but it’s not so great when we’re spiraling downward.
Elvis Presley. We’re currently in the fat Vegas years. We should probably stay away from submarine sandwiches, and bathtubs.
what is americas death on the toilet going to be?
An absolute shitshow
Its … horrible how you treat your elderly in closed wards.
I shall avert my gaze.
Didn’t mean to pry, it was just too loud to not notice it.I’d rather look at our … increasingly hard-right EU politics … wait, that can’t be right, wtf.
We used to say that conservative politics in the EU would still be considered left in the USA. Well, I‘m not so sure about that anymore.
The US far right actually made a project of helping the far right in Europe.
I mean, in previous years we did pass some environmental laws (like banning internal combustion cars), not as much or as strict as I hoped, but change was there. Sure hope that doesn’t all get undone ‘to boost the economy’ (in the USA sense - so help the existing big corps to boost their profits & do nothing for the majority).
Hell, I rally like the vast majority of EU regulations (various directives and delegated acts) that were passed & are being constantly updated (to keep up with the times/trends & tech) over the last 20 years, I think its a rally good balance between protecting the people whilst at the same time working with the market to actually achieve a meaningful & painless change over several years. That’s why we have representatives. The added “bureaucracy” as companies call it is just extra reporting & testing (to confirm compliance with standards). This benefits us all & is of unbelievably marginal cost when you look at the economy, regardless of what lobbyists say.
Biden’s immigration policy is honestly a wet dream for most right extremists in Europe
I’ll just leave this here… :’-)
Add to this one another map of past CIA-backed coups and despair.
Honestly that’s something I never learned about until I was like, 23, 24. Still know bugger all about it and that’s fucked. Do you know any good resources where I can learn about this stuff?
You could start by reading about the School of the Americas, Operation Condor and Operation Gladio. See how the USA treats its “friends”.
Read about cointelpro and see how it treats its citizens. Some tactics are still in use today.
Wilson, and to a lesser extent Monroe are the presidents that caused those, with Wilsonian Military Doctrine, and The Monroe Doctrine, specifically so perhaps start there.
There’s a Wikipedia article on US interventions but it misses some afaik.
For a fun and light read I’d start with Wikipedia entry on the attempts on the life of Fidel Castro.
For chronological read I’d start with Iran then Latin America, Wikipedia as well. Don’t skip the chapter where they associated themselves with drug lords that sent drugs to US as a way to finance anti communist operations in Central America. I think that was Nicaragua.
And there’s quite a few missing!
Even the Pentagon doesn’t know where they are!
The one on Greenland, for example
And the surveillance station in the middle of Australia (pine gap)
That BoyBoy video is so funny
if we are talking about surveillance theres the internet surveillance apparatus too.
What? there’s nothing important in Pine Gap.
That’s what they want you to think
nice try DoD
Yeah I heard Australia has some issues with gaps between pine trees, a certain boyboy told me ;)
Well if you care so much how come you’re not doing anything about it?? We all know what happens when America cares about someone else’s elections…
As part of the CUSMA trade agreement, I think us Canadians and Mexicans are allotted one sigh of disappointment…
Como parte del acuerdo comercial T-MEC, creo que a los canadienses y los mexicanos se nos permite un solo suspiro de decepción…
Mexicans should absolutely be keeping an eye on American politics. Especially since half the debate was: Sir please explain how much you hate Mexicans and what you’ll do to prevent any Mexicans from entering our fair country and how you’ll remove the Mexicans problem when you’re in power.
Trump: internment camps, American Auschwitz if he can
Biden: further tighten border control and further restrict ability to obtain legal entry
yeah but your family seems to make your problems our problems so we wanna know just how fucked we are.
The answer is always “Very.”
Yeah it’s like listening to your mobster neighbours fighting. It’s their business but anyone can catch a stray.
The conspiracy theorists all say Joe is supposed to step down and Gavin Newsom somehow is added to the ticket which then will win. These conspiracy theorists also say that candidates are selected in advance by the powers that be and it’s all pagentry to deceive the gullible masses. Was this debate really an unepected plot twist, or was it planned?
When is JFK coming back from the dead
I am not saying I believe all these things. It’s just what they say.
All the “misinformation” “conspiracy theorists” seem to have gotten quite a few things right.
I follow. The best lies have a teensies pair of truth legs to get them started.
It’s actually far beyond that.
Remember when covid happened and the media and government said it came from a bat at a market in wuhan and not from the experimental covid lab directly next to the market?
And remember when this was considered “misinformation” and a “conspiracy theory” if you even mentioned that it could be from the covid lab?
Do you rember when they said it was a “conspiracy theory” and “misinformation” to say the covid vaccine was impacting hearts, before they withdrew the Johnson & Johnson vaccine?
Do you remember people getting banned from Facebook for even mentioning that and being called conspiracy theorists spreading misinformation?
Well Pepperidge Farm remembers motherfucker.
Will this ever not be appropriate?
We wish… the good/bad neighbour analogy is very apt here; whatever happens in the USA spills over here all the time.
We are about to enter our own Trump shit show when PP is elected next year.
Are the mooses swimming in the pool a good thing or a bad thing? Or maybe just a weird thing?
I don’t know how to pluralize moose
The plural of moose is meese.
spoiler
/s for non-native English speakers
A majestic flock of meese sounds better that just moose. How many moose? 1, 5, 20? You just don’t know. I’m currently in contact with my MP to resolve this issue, this is very important to me.
Wow, I didn’t expect an expert to chime in.
A møøse once bit my sister. No realli!
She was Karving her initials on the møøse with the sharpened end of an interspace tøøthbrush given her by Svenge - her brother-in-law - an Oslo dentist and star of many Norwegian møvies: “The Høt Hands of an Oslo Dentist”, “Fillings of Passion”, “The Huge Mølars of Horst Nordfink”.
Octopus - octopi
Cactus - cacti
Moose - MiMoose doesn’t have a “U”
Serious answer: the plural of “moose” is “moose,” not “mooses.”
If goose are geese, moose must be meese.
yeah but that kiddie pool is being rented out for 1500/mo
Yeah and you’re getting renovicted so they can split all the bedrooms up and double the occupancy (and rent)
I dont know, I dont think Canada has much room to throw bricks in glass houses at the moment.
something doesn’'t feel right…
Someone pls explain
Canada is north of America. North is typically depicted as being up, or on top.
Ya, except now that upside down it’s more Australia than Canada.
Thank you
As a french person we have bigger fishes to fry lmao 😂 (I might live in a fascist state soon™)
Oof so you think Macron pulled a David Cameron and shot himself in the foot with the snap election and the RN party gonna sweep? Man so sorry our shitty alt right politics are infecting you guys too.
At least the left is doing something, I just hope it’s enough :x
My hope is that the NFP will get to the second round and then everyone votes for them against the RN, something similar will happen but victory depends on if macron asks people to vote against the alt right
As an Italian person, we are already there…
How are you coping?
At least for now it’s not openly trying to destroy the democratic apparatus, like Trump did. That’s my only solace. But before singing their praise let’s wait a couple of years… You never know
Stay vigilant.
As an American, I feel ya.
Well, France is known for their national holiday: revolution
Time to start a new Republic. 5th is the charm number. I guess.
We’re so fucked it’s absolutely insane.
I thought Trump had a chance before, but now… My god Biden embarrassed the shit out of himself… Fuck the goddamn DNC for condemning us by REFUSING to have primaries… Yeah it’s the tradition because usually the incumbent has a chance, but 90472828 year old Biden? Ffs…
Yes Trump is old too but it was plain as day how much more lucid trump is than biden…
I see so many people screaming that primaries should have been held, especially today.
Biden would have easily won the primaries.
The only reason I agree with this is that I was still living in the Midwest during the 2016 primary. I moved to California during August of that year. Time after time, I got told by Midwestern democrats that Bernie just wasn’t electable / was too progressive. The coasts would have primaried Biden, but flyover country would have messed it up.
Hmm…
Iowa, North Dakota, New York, and Massachusetts are the only ones that really surprise me in that grouping.
NY isn’t that keen on progressive politics outside NYC. Long Island is an extremely populated part of NY and it’s basically Trumpland and “moderates” out here, more Trump the more east you go. “Greater” NY is also pretty red aside from the larger cities. It doesn’t really surprise me that much unfortunately :(
He did win the primary in states that had them. There’s no if about it.
He was the only option on my primary lmao
The problem with Biden is they gave it to him because “he deserved it”. Life long politician. Vice president. That’s the only real reason the DNC handed the keys to him. It’s a fucking job promotion.
The next election cycle is going to be interesting.
This might be a hot take but any leadership selection where candidates are ranked in terms of how lucid they are is a bad time for all involved.
I need to shake the hands of potential presidents before I can make any judgements on who to vote for.
Hank?
Yessir, I sell propane and propane accessories. Ronald Reagan was the best president we ever had.
Being lucid is supposed to be a minimum requirement to even apply. But here we are.
Yeah, I mean we’re like lobsters being slow boiled.
This whole situation is mad, but it feels plausible because it’s been ratcheted up so gradually.
Can you imagine the country’s reaction if they say this 2 decades ago?
Does it really count as “lucid” if you enunciate your lies, fabrications, misrecollections about… everything?
For his voters, his lies and fabrications are the truth. They don’t listen to fact checking because they are conditioned to see it as fake and a goverment ploy to fool them.
True. But they were going to have the same criticism of Biden regardless.
It’s part of the reason I didn’t even watch. Looking over the polling, the debate didn’t really change anyone’s opinions on anything to any significant degree.
What the polling likely isn’t capturing is how many people will ultimately choose not to vote out of despair, and that was the real threat the whole time.
Oh, definitely. Not just possible, they weren’t even looking for that. They were entirely looking for what the debate did to preferences and opinions directly about the candidates.
I mostly brought it out as an example of the headline not capturing the whole message of how it impacted voters. Or didn’t impact, rather.
No-one is going to switch sides, but this performance may affect turnout.
I don’t think it has been long enough to have gathered enough data on that. Just watching it myself I could clearly see a low information voter seeing Trump as a more fit choice as Biden struggled to even form sentences :(
No. He was not lucid, just loud.
Loud and lying every second word != lucid.
It was a goddamn travesty that there was no fact checking by the
button pushersmoderators.Everything was allowed to stand as fact. It was disgusting :(
Yes Trump is old too but it was plain as day how much more lucid trump is than biden…
And also an unrepentant crook and liar. Who also dreams of being a dictator and getting revenge on his “enemies”.
Yeah, this is not looking good, and I’m not impressed
Preaching to the choir, but I’m worried about the ignorant people that simply don’t know that about him. All they see is an old bumbling feeble man vs a “strong man.” :(
For sure. It’s a shame that being correct isn’t the strategy for electoral politics.
And unfortunately, the media is not informing people. I can’t believe there was no question last night about Project 2025. Just unbelievable.
Plus no fact checkers. Again, unbelievable.
Too late, I watched it all. It would have been funny if it hadn’t been so sad.
Well I suppose the answer I’d give is that because of how right-wing the US is compared to much of the Western world, it becomes a patient zero for whatever the far-right is cooking up - which inevitably influences far-right groups in other Western countries
I mean Brexit predated the Trump election by 5 months
America sneezes, the world catches a drone strike or something
I follow closely what is happening in the US from France because even though we have a very different culture I still think US politics is a preview of what’s to come here.
Right now I consider we are at the step where our media are crumbling and becoming unable to properly inform us. A step that has been reached a couple of years ago in the US in my opinion.
The next step will probably be our own coup attempt in a few years and a steady increase in the division of the country and far right movements.
Word.
Putin planted his seed with Trump in his greatest enemy (democracy/America). It quickly caught on & has spread globally.
Hundreds of Billions of dollars in US defense hasn’t done a thing to halt the attacks on democracy Putin has wraught with a few million spent on his troll army.
The man can’t carry out a physical attack for shit, but his cyber attacks have no equal, only willing collaborators (Murdoch et al, the maga army).
Putin planted his seed with Trump
Please don’t post your fanfics here 🤮🤮
It’s no fanfic. It’s assessing the enemy. Kind of important to do if you want to beat em.
Don’t be a snowflake. The right is claiming that territory madly.
They were making a joke about “planting his seed” meaning impregnating.
You’d rather believe Trump is result of foreign interference, that our own institutions would never result in this without being sullied from outside. It’s fan fic, it’s Cold War nonsense.
Trump is the consequence of our political systems, of our spiteful culture, of our economics that promises success and leaves people sick, broken, and in debt. So what if the Russians had a few hundred Facebook posts? That “seed” would not have taken if the soil weren’t already fertile. Frankly, I don’t think it made a difference. We were barrelling toward Trump with or without the oh so spooky slavs typing on a keyboard.
I recommend you read up. And quit sounding like you’re on Putin’s propaganda team: ‘oh that’s cold war nonsense’
Putin funded Trump, fed him the whole Obama’s a Kenyan schtick, Hilary’s a criminal ploy.
Trump can’t think up or accomplish a damn thing without a cheer squad to goad & lead him where to go.
Tom Snyder’s the Road to Unfreedom has the path well researched. I highly recommend you read that.
Yes, Rupert Murdoch had been warring against real news since Reagan (Bush’s puppet) withdrew laws that required stations labeled ‘News’ carry truth & news
Yes, Reagan was an early predecessor to the incompetent celebrity politician role that Trump walks. Yes, Danny Quayle was a shining example of idiocy in politics.
Putin saw these things the Murdoch & Bush families put forth & jumped on the band wagon, gave it a nitro boost. Not much difference? Follow the money.
You are looking for a Great Man of history to pin this on. You’d rather believe someone nefarious is in charge and pulling the strings from an ocean away, than to see this for what it is; an empire with no real conscious oversight. A pile of self-interested businessmen, politicians, and militarists doing whatever they can to line their pockets, profits above all else.
The US has, per capita, the largest prison population and, outright, the biggest military on the planet. If there’s a road to ‘unfreedom’, we traveled down it a long time ago.
You are looking for a Great Man of history to pin this on. You’d rather believe someone nefarious is in charge and pulling the strings from an ocean away, than to see this for what it is; an empire with no real conscious oversight.
No, I just prefer to have realization of all of the components.
A pile of self-interested businessmen, politicians, and militarists doing whatever they can to line their pockets, profits above all else.
Agreed.
The US has, per capita, the largest prison population and, outright, the biggest military on the planet. If there’s a road to ‘unfreedom’, we traveled down it a long time ago.
Also agreed. As I said before, we were on this path, many made it worse. Putin put it on steroids.
grabs popcorn
But think of all the popcorn we are able to consume watching you shitshow. This is way more entertaining than the usual movies, series, and shows that you produce!
How is this fascist right wing shit show not a global debacle? Putin, Netenyahu, Bolsanaro, Trump… Italy & Germany both rolling right. North Korea (of course) and Xinny the Pooh.
Does Britain’s finally dumping the Tories (after a decade & a half+) make them one of the few to break left at this time on the global stage? {Something about broken clocks being right from time to time.}
No I wouldn’t think that about the UK. Tories shifted massively rightwards over the past decade and they are really losing most voters to Reform - a hard right party, so they are simply not hard-right enough for most voters, meanwhile Labour has shifted massively right to occupy the space Cameron-style neocons were in before.
The right win in the long run because if labour wins, the dynamic will be of that between Cameron-esque conservatives under Starmer Labour and hard-right conservatives under Reform/UKIP/whatever Farage party as the two major parties. This is the final form of the overton window shift, on which the UK and US led the world on in 2016.
If anything the lib Dems - if you take their manifesto at face value - are far more progressive than Labour at this point and don’t adopt the “managed decline” style of governance.
This is where the UK FPTP system might actually work well, Reform could get as many as 17% of votes, ahead of Tory 15% and become the 2nd largest party, and yet end up with like one parliament seat because they dont end up with a majority in any one county this time around.
The only hope then is that Starmer is just secretly a really good guy who won’t say so because the tory media would eviscerate him on culture war shit, that he survives the power struggle of a labour seat supermajority and kicks out the likes of Duffield and Streeting.
Poland and Hungary also did fairly well, if I’m not mistaken
