If illegally bribing a porn star to be quiet about an extra marital affair before he won the election is considered an official act of the president, then I’m officially done with this country.
Basically they’re arguing that the case against him was built partly on evidence from his time as president. I have no idea why the prosecutors have agreed to go along with that. Best guess is to keep things in the same case rather than have it go to a different trial/appeal?
Although the Manhattan case does not center on Mr. Trump’s presidency or official acts — but rather on his personal activity during the 2016 campaign — his lawyers argued on Monday that prosecutors had built their case partly on evidence from his time in the White House. And under the Supreme Court’s new ruling, prosecutors not only cannot charge a president for any official acts, but also cannot cite evidence involving official acts to bolster other accusations.
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In response to the letter from Mr. Trump’s lawyers, the district attorney’s office wrote that prosecutors did not oppose Mr. Trump’s request to delay the sentencing. "Although we believe defendant’s arguments to be without merit, we do not oppose his request for leave to file and his putative request to adjourn sentencing pending determination of his motion,” wrote Joshua Steinglass, one of the assistant district attorneys who tried the case against the former president.
Source: NY Times (Gift Article Link)
That’s your line?
That line hasn’t already been crossed ten times over for you?
Genocide? You can stomach that.
Paying a pornstar? Now that is just unacceptable!
He’s talking about Trump, not Biden.
Trump moved the embassy to Jerusalem and talked a bunch of shit about how it belongs to Israel alone etc etc fueling the discontent of both Hamas and Zionists alike
We might not even be in this mess now if it wasn’t for that shit. Motherfucker just lighting fires constantly.
Yeah, don’t blame the murderer, blame the person who you think made the murder do the murdering. It wasn’t OJs fault, it was the rap music and violent movies!
Amazing how yall cant talk about Biden without bringing up Trump, but you’re lockstep about not bringing up Biden when talking about Trump.
Its adorable.
PS: He also specifically said “done with this country.”
People talk about Biden all the damn time when Trump’s court corruption comes up. If I had a dollar for every time I saw a thread about Biden changing the court via packing or using the “official act” ruling, I’d be a rich man.
People aren’t getting grumpy at you because you’re bringing up Biden, they’re getting grumpy because you want to start talking about Gaza in court corruption comment thread.
Lemmy’s got noooo shortage of Gaza articles with comments that shit on the current president’s policies. And yes, since this is an election year, they also talk about his opponent’s policies in the region. That guy is winning in the polls and has policies that would be even worse for civilian deaths in that area. Those of us that care about saving civilian lives want to reduce military aid, not double down.
That makes absolutely no sense. This is a thread about Trump with an article posted about Trump. Yet you’re here “biden bad” when it has absolutely nothing to do with him. You’re being disengenious.
And Trump told Israel that they should “finish” Gaza.
Trump is more genocidal than Biden, anyway.
Absolutely. In theory, at least. In practice or in reality is a different matter altogether. Don’t let that stop your feelings or hunches, though.
The reality is Trump is more genocidal.
"Trump responded by saying Biden has “become like a Palestinian,” which rights advocates said came across as a slur. "Actually, Israel is the one (that wants to keep going), and you should let them go and let them finish the job.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-criticized-palestinian-insult-debate-with-biden-2024-06-28/
I didn’t invoke Biden’s name, so point stands, it’s the pornstar money that’s the line.
That doesn’t make any sense. Explain why you included the part about genocide at all of you didn’t intend it to be about Biden. It wouldn’t make sense to include that paragraph if you meant Trump or were trying to be ambiguous.
Yes, I was referencing the one that is actually committing genocide.
You came along to help me out though and pointed out that Trump wants genocide too, re-framing my argument.
You and StinkyOnions were the ones who went “genocide? Oh, ya, the guy I support. Because I support genocide.”
I’m just saying its cute for people claiming moral superiority “being done with the country” because of pornstar money, not genocide.
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So, Trump gets a pass on what happened to the Kurds?
Barely a month in even
How does keeping you from derailing the thread mean I’m supporting biden? You sure are exposing yourself nicely.
Edit: Your comment history speaks for itself. We have a MAGAT posing as a lefty.
His team are pushing for Israel to use nukes
What do you like about genocide?
Specifically
Paying a pornstar? Now that is just unacceptable!
That person wasn’t complaining about the hush money, they were complaining about a corrupt court system, that bends the law in extreme ways, to let their appointer commit crimes without consequences.
Why not also ask for sunshine every Thursday of the year now that you’re at it
He wasn’t the president when the crime was committed, ipso facto he didn’t have presidential immunity.
Doesn’t matter, that’s not the point. Delay and chaos are the point.
Ex post facto, yeah - believe that’s the term at play here
I think ex post facto would be passing a law that punishes people who broke the law before it existed.
Iso facto means “by that very fact”
That’s probably right - I interpreted it as “one can’t take advantage of a new ruling if the event already happened,” but I may be out of my depth here!
The crime wasn’t the payment, it was the falsifying business records. And based solely on the information in this thread, the final signature for those false records did happen while he was in office in 2017.
Just because it happened when he was in office does not make it an official act, but thats their argument
No, the crime isn’t the hush money, it’s the falsifying records. And THAT happened while he was president.
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He was president when he falsified records, which is the crime he was convicted of, not paying off a porn star.
Per logic. Per fedsoc, yes, those were official acts. Baby Donnie’s first shit was an official act.
He seems to have at least partially succeeded: Manhattan Prosecutors Agree to Delay Trump’s Sentencing
What the actual fuck bro? The judge hasn’t agreed yet, but since both sides agreed, it’s more than likely going to happen. I am sick of this piece of shit getting treated with kid gloves.
It’s a two tiered system and most of us are in the shit tier.
He wasn’t convicted of paying off a porn star. He was convicted of fake business records and falsifying records to promote getting elected.
Not sure how that’s a presidential official act.
But maybe in the orange brain, he’s always been president.
Did he pay with government funds? Ok we’re probably good then.
He’s such a good Catholic man
US Internal News is not World News.
Please see News or Politics.
