If I’d encounter someone wielding a naked 15cm blade, I’d be extremely wary as well. That blade can easily cause serious harm or kill, regardless of being a replica toy or not. Walking around with what is essentially a dagger is reckless. Maybe the sentence is a bit harsh, but that dude deserved being stopped.
Can’t pretty much everything around you cause serious harm or kill??? I don’t understand this stance.
Yes, you’re right everything can cause serious harm or kill, but certain things are designed to harm or kill, or designed to look like something that could harm or kill.
Context is a big factor here. A person holding a 6 inch knife in a kitchen? No one is going to bat an eye. They’re probably using that knife to prep vegetables. Same knife, same person but they are walking around a market/playground/movie theatre? Suddenly it’s a very different situation and context.
Is that stranger with the knife safe? I don’t know, but I do know that I don’t have anything to defend myself aside from what is around me if they ARE NOT a safe person.
There is nothing wrong with running around swinging knives simply because you want to. That’s just freedom, and it’s ok.
I don’t have anything to defend myself
So instead of arming yourself, you’re trying to disarm the rest of the world? Why take that difficult path instead of the easy way?
So instead of arming yourself
Yeah no wonder America is a lost cause in terms of violence. How or why would anyone arm themselves when they’re already in a public place?
To protect yourself and others from crazies. Because crazies can and will use anything and everything as a weapon.
And how come the crazies exist nonetheless and do all that kind of stuff somewhat independently of other people being armed?
Also, these same crazies, in other countries, tend to be unarmed (besides kitchen weapons). Would you prefer to defend against one with a gun or one with a knife?
If someone in those countries is caught in shady circumstances carrying any sort of substantial blade, that person is in trouble. If someone in a “freedom country” is caught carrying a gun under the same shady circumstances, that person walks free as that’s not illegal by itself.
And how come the crazies exist nonetheless and do all that kind of stuff somewhat independently of other people being armed?
A mix of mental health issues and standard human nature.
Would you prefer to defend against one with a gun or one with a knife?
One with a knife. But my preference of enemy arms does not negate that enemy’s right to defend themself with a gun. I’d also prefer that no one ever hurt anyone else, but my preference there cannot be guaranteed.
And yes, correct, in the USA we can have guns.
Public safety.
Four months of prison? It sounds like the man is disconnected from reality but hardly a real threat to society.
gotta throw the book at him to get the numbers up so they look better when it comes to ignoring serious crime.
Draconian laws do be like that.
Seriously. I’ve seen letter openers more threatening than that “sword”. Was it dumb? Sure. Does he deserve a slap the wrist, absolutely. But prison?? No way. What the actual fuck?
The stupid thing is that the UK is literally running out of prison spaces currently so that we are considering letting long term prisioners out on licence early to free up room.
Yet apparently this man needs to have his life turned upsidedown in order to occupy one of those spaces for four months.
The cells are probably crammed full of cosplayers, student protestors and journalists. Remember that massive ruckus and manhunt for thee guy who was wandering around in a gimp suit making people feel uncomfortable?
“Our prisons have never been safer!”
It’s OK though because as soon as the prison guards turn their backs on him he will immediately escape on an eight inch paraglider.
The Blade of Evil’s Bane should be carried by everyone at this point.
The blade was only 6 inches that’s a master dagger at best lmao
dammit i said the same thing independently, but you were first by 12 hours. hats off to you, sir !
But beware of the master claymore
That’s called a Biggoron sword
Four months in prison for getting caught on CCTV fidgeting with a sheathed letter opener
The handle is just 4cm or about 1.5 inches, so a grown man can’t even hold it in his hand properly, it is clearly a kids toy. He may have used for role playing, although he called it a fidget toy?
The article conveniently fails to mention whether it was sharp (extremely unlikely, the cheap steel used for these can’t really hold an edge), and even more conveniently crops out the tip of the “blade” so we can’t even see if it was pointed (also extremely unlikely, toys like this almost always have blunted tips).
This isn’t a weapon, it’s a toy. Sure, you could hurt someone with it, just like you could hurt someone with a baseball bat.
Washington Post had a better picture: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/07/04/zelda-master-sword-jail-nuneaton/
I’m guessing it’s pretty much a letter opener. From a read, letter openers count, and many people are mocking the idea of a letter opener being included in such a ban.
I reckon the police wanted to bust him for some other reason. The Master Sword was just their excuse.
His real crime was “Walking down the street whilst looking working class”.
I’m sure chief detective Ganon had a perfectly good reason. :)
Before he obtains the tri-force of power and becomes unstoppable.
Police has that discretion and it is ripe for abuse.
That why there is the advice to “only do one crime at a time” I guess!
The term crime lost a lot of its meaning somewhere between 10 commandments and now…
I guess dude committed a crime here but most people prolly would not really care.
While others commit bigger crimes and we care, nothing gets done.
If you have lots of crimes on the books and police have enforcement discretion, that’s a recipe for targeting whoever they want.
Should have carried the gun blade from FF8 and it be protected under the 2nd amendment.
In the UK?
To be fair they used to have a right acknowledged in the 1689 Bill of Rights
Its amazing how the colonists were basically just “Lets be Englishmen…but over there instead. And we’ll do all the same stuff, but also totally different.”
And John Adams said “Will there be alchohol?”
And then George Washington said “One day we’ll even name a beer after you.”
Then Benjamin Franklin went off to France to get laid a whole bunch. It was pretty easy to get laid in France in the 1770s if you just showed up, and said you’re leading a revolution against the British, and overthrowing monarchy power. Just tons of pusspuss and fine wine to go around.
…what were we talking about?
They considered themselves to be Englishmen, and have the rights of one, even after the Battle of Bunker Hill for some time. Also you’re thinking of Sam Adams, who was a brewer. But Franklin is pretty much dead on the money. Didn’t even wear a wig just showed up all slovenly and slayed.
2nd amendment of what? The Magna Carta?
I mean that’s what the US Supreme court cites when overturning our rights so why can’t the UK do the same?
MASTER SWORD = 22 cm or 8.6 inches including handle and holster.
We also have very strict knife regulation here (Denmark), but I think if it is a first time offense, he would have gotten off with a fine, since it’s obviously a toy.Seems like a perfect place for role playing games!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warwickshire#/media/File:Kenilworth_Castle_(cropped).jpgWiki page:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WarwickshireThat’s what all these articles missed, this isn’t a first offense, the man is a known burglar, did 4 years previously
What is the aim of the regulation?
Does it cover dense urban areas only?
Most youths who are involved in crime carry a knife for protection. This means that if the police want to arrest one of them, for whatever reason, they can because they will likely find a knife on them.
I see. Is this pure fear behind it or is there some evidence that the law is beneficial?
But yeah, another good pretext for harassing the young and/or poors.
Reminds of war on drugs until police started doing to the all “children” in the US and that attitude changed pretty quick.
We (Denmark) have 0.9 homicides per 100,000 capita, UK has 1.1 USA has 6.3.
Of course there are other factors, but overall regulation definitely and very evidently helps.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rateThat’s at best a correlation
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victim surcharge of £154.
WHAT VICTIM??? The article says nothing of him doing anything to others. To my knowledge he didn’t attack anyone. There’s no victim!
He is the victim. It’s a charge on him.
Soooooo, either he should get the money, as the victim, or the charge is basically police charging victims money for being victims.
…I feel like I’m missing something here.
This “victim surcharge” would be termed court cost or court fee in the US.
What a strange name if thats the purpose.
I don’t make things up, I just look them up.
Oh, I wasn’t accusing you of lying. I was just saying it’s such a strange name for a charge that has a legitimate purpose, but is named in a way that has nothing to do with that purpose.
Kinda like if you took an uber, and they charged you for the “poopy diaper charge”. And you say nobody on your trip even wore a diaper. So the driver tells you it’s so he can refill his gas in the car.
Good feckin point!
Victims of every crime that has one.
It’s a fund for paying compensation to victims of crime and £154 is just what you have to pay to it if you get jailed for 6 months or below.So when someone does commit a crime that has a payout to a victim, it doesn’t matter if they have money or not as it comes from the fund to the victim first.
Kinda like… If you got hit with an extra vehicle/traffic insurance bill every time you get a speeding ticket or get caught driving drunk, even if you didn’t cause an accident.Oh, ok. Thats a far better description than the other guy said of just “court costs”.
I would say that America needs something like that, but, I just can’t see the money ACTUALLY going to victims. I see some policeman, or politician, or whomever, pocketing it if they tried that here.
I don’t know if this is the same but Sweden have a thing where you pay into a fund that helps victims of crimes. When a criminal gets convicted and has to pay a victim money, the state takes money out of the fund and pay the victim and then the fund tries to get the money from the criminal. This way it doesn’t become the victims problem that the criminal can’t pay.
They jailed my man Link smh
Leave this old nerd alone
I’m surprised Nintendo’s lawyers didn’t get to him before the police.
4 months in prison for having a novelty pocket knife
And for some reason the prisons are full…
Not for simply having, but for brandishing said bladed device as the police approached. That’s the law, in that city. As the officer said, “It is possible to find fidget toys that aren’t six-inch blades. It is possible not to walk down the street holding them out in front of you. With a bit more self-awareness, Bray could have avoided contact with us completely.” Bray brought this on himself, and could have avoided any contact with the police. He chose otherwise.
Brandish is a stretch nothing in that article noted an intent to intimidate others, it is simple possession of a tchotchke. Unless you count the author’s flavor text.
I’m just reading the article, as you were also able to do, and it says, “On 8 June, officers were made aware via CCTV of a man, Bray, walking down Queens Road, Nuneaton, with the sword in his hand. Bray approached officers with the blade visible, at which point he was arrested.” Bold added for emphasis. If I were out in public in the UK, and if I happened to have a bladed implement, I’d keep it out of sight. Especially if there were police anywhere nearby. But hey, you can do as you please. Have a nice day!
The blade was inside a sheath and could be released from the sheath with the press of a button.
And approached could simply be he was intent on walking past them on the sidewalk.
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Ah yes, another victory for zero tolerance policies.
Everything about this is asinine.
Damn, Act Man really let himself go.
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