I think billionaires are a sign that capitalism is out of control.
Yep. They are a glitch in the system. An exploitation. There’s no way that any person should deserve a hundred thousand times more money than the average full time worker.
They’re not a glitch, they’re the natural end result. When you have an economic system that rewards those with the most money, those with the money with have the most advantages and be the most successful. Naturally, over time, money will consolidate at the top.
Of course you can impose things like regulations or taxes, but that’s subverting the natural course of capitalism. You’re literally doing things to prevent the system from working as designed.
Billionaires aren’t a glitch of capitalism, they’re a feature.
Fair point. Though I believe we can still have capitalism without such extreme wealth distribution. Tax 99% of every dollar earned above 10 mil. Make it extremely hard to reach 100 mil. Think of how much good that tax money will do for society as a whole, assuming it’s used properly.
There’s no glitch, this is simply capitalism.
“Billionaires hate capitalism” as exemplified by Peter Thiel’s mantra “competition is for losers”.
Basado.
This is how you protest. Not throwing tomato soup at priceless artworks.
I disagree and I am going to give you an honest and not emotionally charged reply. Protesting by vandalizing yachts disincentivizes them from spending their money increasing the hoarding. They will just spend it on other ways to show their wealth instead of supporting a somewhat working-class industry. Worse yet, they will just not spend it making the situation worse. Also, it is a super obvious way to get caught and arrested and good luck proving you didn’t do it. Who else was on the docks that night? In short, you made the situation worse and got arrested worsening your position and ability to impact change.
This is increasingly becoming more popular lately without actually impacting change. It is turning the average voter against these activists and their causes though.
Docks aren’t well guarded in my experience and I want to see your evidence that this is impacting voting in any way.
I won’t encourage anyone to do things like this but I am far from condemning it. Those mega yachts are disgusting, taking up dock space for useful ships and more polluting than a small town. All for what? So billionaires can have a dick waving contest against other ones? Meanwhile regular folks get priced out because heaven fucking forbid you want to go fishing with your buddies once a year.
I do believe that we saw the impacts of property violence in the BLM protests during the 2020 primary elections which is why a less radical candidate was elected. Polls showed this as well.
Those are unconnected and the fact that you “believe” something doesn’t make it true.
I do believe that President Biden received the nomination but I don’t have proof at the moment. I also know he was the less radical candidate.
Show a connection
You mean, other than the actual results and the candidates platforms? I suppose we could look back at the narratives at the time.
True.
If you’re going to risk being jailed, might as well go out killing a CEO.
That’s definitely not more ethical and that suggestion is abhorrent by any ethical framework. Murder is wrong except in self defense. If you start justifying murder based on political actions, you enable it in response and that typically leads to actual fascism.
Murder is wrong except in self defense.
What counts as self defense then?
When somebody has a knife at your throat? What about people planning to put a knife to your throat? What about people creating plans to dump toxic waste into your neighborhood?
At some point a line must be drawn. So why shouldn’t that line include the rich who dump astronomical loads of emissions, poisoning our air and water, and otherwise killing the planet?
There isn’t calls to eat the rich simply because of a difference in political opinion. There is a lot more to it than that.
You unfortunately justify violence against yourself in that case because you escalated. All of the examples you mentioned are hypotheticals and not real or part of this context. Additionally, if it is publicly known, it is also within the rules of society and I’m very against punishment without a trial by peers. You are no better than the rural folks around Salem distrusting the rich witches in the town who controlled their distribution, unironically.
All of the examples you mentioned are hypotheticals and not real or part of this context.
The first 3 are, the last one is not.
In addition to the above, there is also the fact that roughly 8 million people a year are dying from climate change. Climate change that is heavily driven by billionaires. What about the self defense of those 8 million that die every year?
Additionally, if it is publicly known, it is also within the rules of society
This statement has some very “Let them eat cake” energy.
You are no better than the rural folks around Salem distrusting the rich witches in the town who controlled their distribution, unironically.
I haven’t murdered anyone. Nor have I based any of my argument on something false. So this is not true.
I’m convinced that shit is a psyop.
More of this please. Remind those greedy fucks that for every one of them, there are millions of us.
Keep up the good fight!!
Superyachts are an insult.
Even more insulting is that this person is an “heir” to the money. Fuck them. Inheritance tax should be very, very high.
The only single argument I ever once heard against the inheritance tax being really high that I thought was worth anything: in theory if all your wealth was tied up in hard assets that can’t be easily divided up you could inherit a debt. The example was a farm. Which even then it is a fixable problem for that one edge case, just make it so if it is a farm you can spread payments out instead of all at once.
Ultimately, while they deserve it, high inheritance taxes on the Petite Bourgeoisie are not the goal; it’s very high inheritance taxes on the super-rich. If a man with a billion dollars dies, 950 million (if not more) should go to the government.
Only an idiot would argue for a flat tax. So that’s not an issue here.
I think low/no inheritance tax on the first X (50 mil for example) amount of assets/money, then the rest goes to gov is what he’s saying.
It would phase out billionaires in a naturalish fashion if executed correctly.
I’d personally prefer the use of manure or animal dung instead of spray paint as the former is a bit more natural and should not create any issue to the environment.
Furthermore, if used in the right quantity and of the right quality manure can permanently stick to a porous surface thus rendering the entire yatch, car, jet, helicopter or transport mean completely unusable for a very long time. For this application I’d suggest the use of carnivore ejections as these are usually far more unbearable than those coming from herbivores.
Anyway, keep up the good fight!!
Thank you, FabioTNO, for providing much-needed insight on the topic of fecal adhesion and permanence.
You seem to know your shit.
Lol, they might be a bit dad-joke like but I find these wordplays very funny.
Thanks for the laugh!
Semtex
I don’t think yachts and helicopters are made up of porous surfaces, quite the opposite. Except for fabric parts of course
I’d be more inclined to use road marking paint (the really thick stuff you boil to prepare) catapulted onto the deck. Or just burn it down.
Permanent damage is the only language they understand.
Too bad that you wouldn’t be damaging just the leisure of a super rich person but also the environment around it.
We need to find ways to hurt them without damaging the environment worst than they are already doing if possible
The impacts of the environmental damage are not necessarily worse than the environmental damage from not sinking superyachts in the long term, if it becomes a common enough threat that rich people no longer feel secure in owning them.
The concern with anything too destructive is with the property and safety of workers on board imo, not the ships themselves.
I’d recommend Andreas Malm’s book How to Blow Up a Pipeline if you want to hear more about the reasoning for this sort of thing.
I’ve heard about this book before but I haven’t had the chance to read it yet.
Definitely a reading I must add to my list, I’ll try to find a copy of it to correct this lack of information.
Thanks a lot for the suggestion!!
It is a ship. You can easily spray off manure and it will find its way to the bilge.
Have you ever tried to remove shit from a (both natural and artificial )leather jacket? Expecially shit moist with urine?
I don’t see anybody using the soft and comfortable sofas usually provided to these boats for a very long time
Do as you wish. I am just saying the decks are designed to be hosed down. Pretty much everything on a ship is. You spray it and it finds it way to the disgusting bottom tanks.
Solidarity with orcas
Good.
🤷♂️Good.
I neither know nor care specifically what they were protesting or what they hoped to accomplish - I just want to see every single superyacht immediately vandalized the instant it gets close to any shore, anywhere.
I want to see billionaires made into pariahs. They should be hated - loudly and enthusiastically and universally vilified and condemned and harassed - absolutely everywhere they go, all of the time.
All billionaires are scum, without exception, and they should be treated that way, without exception.
Fuck the Walton’s.
If they really want to protest drill a few holes in it. Tiny ones that will take some time to notice.
Frogmen, revolt!
while i admire your spirit, this likely won’t work without an extremely large amount of holes. so many holes that the water coming in is greater than the water being pumped out of the bilge. im sure bilge pumps on a superyacht are insane
Not the same Walmart heir who ran over a pedestrian and was never charged. Or the DUI collector, right?
I’m sorry nobody knows who owns this boat? It is believed to belong to someone???
Registered owner is likely a Trust with a company as the Trustee. Not an individual.
Yes I know they do these tricks to avoid paying taxes but it still sounds ridiculous
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This is some based shit.
