Cheaper innit.
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It can be extremely luxurious if you pay.
I’d rather get to my destination with my wallet still in tact, but you do you.
Good old airlines and their ideal business model:
Charge you like you’re flying on Concorde.
Treat you like you’re on a 16th century slaving ship.
Because Americans have no class consciousness
We are too reliant of air travel as it is. With the advent of the internet we should reduce air travel down to permitted leisure/visiting family and migration. Businesses should be able to video confernced most transactions. The situations where you absolutely need on site representation can be reduced drastically.
That is, if you took climate change seriously.
Plus, high-speed rail is better for the environment.
Not having to do unnecessary travel at all beats every transportation mode…
Yes, and necessary travel doesn’t need to be via car or plane.
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Lol. “The environment can suck my big fat cock. I need to go to Jamaica, NOW!”
Thanks for the laugh.
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I do have a selfish reason; and it’s not because I don’t vacation. It’s I travel for work and that shit is exhausting. Anyway, you’re acting like you care so go and give this a read and leave me alone you dope.
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Using the r word in 2024. Someone I really want to interact with.
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Wait till accelerating climate change makes leisure flights a thing of the past in the next decade or so, along with tame weather and dependable agriculture.
Our species is done, thanks to mindsets like yours.
a thing of the past for poor people, anyway.
We were too conservative in our estimates and other accelerating factors, like loss of the reflectivity of our arctic regions, have entered the game.
This stuff doesn’t go away on any human perceived timeframe even if we stopped entirely. Our beloved capitalists will be able protect themselves for a couple more decades beyond us peasants, but their luxury bunkers with ironically self-sustaining agricultural sections will effectively become the tombs of the families most responsible.
We were just smart enough to make technologies that helped us today and doomed us tomorrow, and still too bone dead stupid not to stop/drastically reduce using them upon discovering the consequences of their use.
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Businesses should be able to video confernce most transactions.
Almost everyone who travels a lot for work wants this too.
HA. So look, I do agree. Problem is businesses don’t care, even if we do. If you figure out a way to stop management across way too many professions from holding hour long meetings to talk about some data point that has so significance to what is actually happening, and those “leaders” who call meetings early to get the team together, when the whole damn thing could be in an email…yeah man, when you solve that, I’ll work with you to solve the rest.
Ok, but like I’m not going to solve it. It’s not also going to be solved today. I’m just saying you want to gripe about your shitty airplane experience like we need to make it a luxury resort when really we need to stop pumping carbon into the atmosphere.
Eh, if you’re looking for the cheapest ticket available you can’t really expect luxury. Airlines are competing with prices, so all luxury goes off the window like a passenger on a Boeing flight
You guys get snacks?
With Ryanair I’m thankful that they have to offer a seat.
Y’all know you’re allowed to bring your own food right?
But I want to pay 3,50€ for a bottle of water and 10€ for horse meat lasagna
Not drinks though. Man, that time our whole family of five got detained for an hour and given the bomb sniffing treatment because my wife brought a tube of baby butt cream that was a 1/4 ounce too big
There’s no snacks. Maybe a mini bag of pretzels if the flight is over 5 hrs long.
And you get that for free? That’s wild! I really mean that I’m happy Ryanair has to offer me a seat
With Ryanair you have to pay extra for the air stewardess not to spit on your face or insult you on the way in.
(I might be exaggerating)
(But not by much)
That’s the only service I would happily pay extra for but they do it for free
Someone clearly doesn’t understand how much it used to cost to travel by plane 50 years ago.
Also this image is bullshit
Tray tables are about half that size now.
Not on longer flights. It doesn’t benefit airlines much to make smaller tray tables
Save on weight means save on gas. Multiply that by thousands of flights and it adds up. United printed their in flight magazines on lighter paper and saved hundreds of thousands of dollars, just by using thinner paper.
They only eliminated 5kg per 737, but that added up to $290k savings.
By using lighter paper to print their in-flight magazine, Hemisphere, United Airlines saves up to 170,000 gallons of fuel, which cuts about $290,000 in annual fuel costs.
One magazine is now one 29 g lighter and weights 195 g which will make a usual 737 plane that carries 179 passengers 5 kg lighter on average.
https://www.kiwi.com/stories/united-prints-lighter-magazine-saves-170000-gallons-fuel/
United makes 50B in revenue a year. I’m guessing that stunt gave them more value in marketing than actual savings.
You clearly do not understand basic math nor how rampant greed in capitalism works. Sad.
If it saves them money, they WILL do it. (or even appears to save money)
Or do you think Scrooge types aren’t literally known for penny-pinching when they’re already rich and wouldn’t even notice the pennies going missing?
Good example, aviation is probably the most penny-fucking business in the planet, it’s a life and death fight between the companies, trying to keep costs low.
It’s a shit post
Life’s been tough since Biden dropped out, hey?
Would probably be better if it still was. Less people would fly.
But back then the price was regulated so they had to compete on service.
That might have been more that 50 years now.
For the OP of this meme, you know you can still pay for food services on flights today, right?
Yeah but it sucks.
If you want you can go first class you know. It’s more or less as much as it was in the 50s and you get possibly even more luxury. Just be ready to pay 5k instead of a hundred bucks
Ehh…
The bottom line
Proportionally (inflation considered), flights are much cheaper now than they were 50 years ago. Consequently, flying is a more accessible mode of transport for many and has resulted in the soaring popularity of air travel, which began after deregulation. However, despite the cost drop, the base cost of flying has increased as airlines operate small profit margins and seek to remain competitive.
It was like 135 bucks for the cheapest unrestricted ticket in the usa in 1975, which comes out to around 814 bucks today. Where as I can buy a round-trip ticket right now for 220, which is the equivalent of 38 bucks in 1975.
And to really put that into perspective, an average house in 1975 cost 39k, and if you take out a 20-year lone with 9% interest, you are looking at 193 bucks per month for your rent. So a single plane ticket in 1975 was 69% of the average monthly rent for a house.
Idk why I did all this, but my adhd told me I had to.
capitalism. next question?
actually, don’t bother! just assume the answer to why things suck is always capitalism unless you find hard evidence to the contrary.
Look, I’m basically a communist most of the time, but I don’t think this is a good take. I’ll admit I don’t actually know the numbers but I know air travel is expensive and not great for the planet.
It could be better, sure, but I would argue that cramming people in and offering the barest of amenities is a good thing when it comes to air travel. Yes, it sucks to be in a plane but it sucks to pollute the air too. It’s good that more people have more travel options now, and it’s good that we can get more people to more places with less fuel than ever before. We shouldn’t bitch about that, we should accept it as a necessity for getting what we want: to arrive someplace far away in an amazingly short period of time, allowing us to see more of the planet than any of our ancestors, while minimizing the harm as much as we can.
this lemmy gold earned my upvote.
Yeah, generations of people hunting for a deal and these companies responding to demand with cheaper options. So capitalism maybe but more so human behavior.
Totally, soviet planes where known from luxury and totally not from accidents /s
Planes are three times faster, five times longer range and 95% cheaper per mile, in real terms, than those early days.
The consumer was given the choice and they chose this. Honestly, air travel is great.
Yes, capitalism sucks. I hate being nickle and dimed for hand luggage, lottery tickets, snacks, hidden booking fees and all that shit. Some gentle regulations would be really nice.
saying consumers were given a choice is a bit generous.
also standing planes incoming.
They were and still are given a choice. I can fly to New York on British Airways first class or Easyjet. Consumers consistently choose the cheapest headline price.
You can also buy a Ferrari over a Honda, doesn’t mean everyone can afford it making it not a choice at all.
Virtually no one could afford air travel prior to the 1960s, that’s a very large part of my point. It got affordable in the 70s and very affordable in the 80s.
In the UK, at some point during the 80s, it became normal for almost every single working family to get on a plane and go somewhere sunny once a year for two weeks. Every year. Minimum.
Ok, fair point. Just came off a little weird to me.
Sorry, I know I’m not always the clearest. :)
Look at you, flying on rich planes with that much space in front of you
Because you always buy the cheaper seats. It’s not your fault, I do the same. Flying was literally for the wealthiest of people at that point in history, it was literally a luxury to fly instead of taking a train, bus, or a boat.
Look at Mr. Moneybags over here, getting a drink that’s not water.
The people in the top picture still fly like that.
The people in the bottom picture couldn’t afford to fly at all in the past.So I remember taking a flight 10 years ago and they gave us pretzel pieces from snyders. I thought, great, we don’t even get whole pretzels…
Next flight, they give us generic “trail mix” in clear bags. The kind the old folks down the street would give out at Halloween because it was “healthy.” but that contained approximately 2 pretzels the size of quarters, 3 peanuts, 3 generic m&ms, and 2 raisins…
It gave me the impression that airlines are like schools, where the flight staff are the ones bringing in the snacks because the airline is too cheap to supply them.
My teacher friends live in big houses and travel all over the world but you know whatever. I don’t.
Liar.
My grandparents were both teachers and are rich. Granted one was a professor, but the other a public school teacher.
In any case, anecdotes do not and cannot disprove the actual statistics.
Also, if you live in a country that actually respects intelligence, I’d HOPE your teachers are actually paid well. Sadly, the US despises intelligence right now…
In dying rural areas in the US teachers are generally some of the best paid. Its mostly in cities where their pay lags. But no, they live in the US in LA(CA, not the state). Also, FYI just because I live in one country doesn’t mean its the same my grandparents live in.
Ahh yes, California, a state that pays more, AND in LA, where wages are WAY higher because cost of living is way higher…
Thank you for describing why your anecdote is an outlier and DEFINITELY doesn’t prove any norm.
Thank you for describing why your anecdote is an outlier and DEFINITELY doesn’t prove any norm.
Where did I say it was the norm??? You called someone a liar for giving an anecdote. Outliers do happen…
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No thanks, you’re probably terrible in bed.
this post seems kinda bourgeoisie to me. i literally don’t give a fuck because we have way bigger problems. if you’re here to bitch about the amenities on an airline flight, well, i guess that must be a nice problem to have.
I for one can only complain about one problem at a time. If something’s not the biggest problem in my life, I’m incapable of addressing it.
