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Is it a first?
Or is it the first time they got caught?
Yes
russians prove they can’t win anything legitimately
Dina would like a word.
who?
Except maybe the competition for most war crimes committed, but they are closely rivaled by the Israeli fascists
Nobody will ever outrank Germany in war crimes…
Japan, maybe? Or like the Khmer Rouge? I’m not saying the Nazis aren’t monsters because they totally are, I’m just saying the competition might be closer than you think.
Yeah! Take that Kasparov! You can’t win anything!
Very not true, Kaspersky® just won a legitimate label as malware.
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…this was a regional tournament, in the Caucasus Republic of Dagestan.
So calling them Russian is technically accurate, but really they are a brutalized and subjugated colonial subject of Russia.
Also, you’ll find this kind of crazy anywhere you go. She literally just dumped mercury around her opponents chess board when she thought no one was around to notice.
I get why it’s catching headlines, but give me a break. It’s just crazy being crazy.
they are a brutalized and subjugated colonial subject of Russia
TBF even Russia is a brutalized and subjugated colonial subject of Russia.
So calling them Russian is technically accurate
The word Russian has two meanings in English. It can mean relating to the country of Russia, or relating to the Rus ethnicity.
The Russian language distinguishes the two. The first is росси́йский. The second is ру́сский. Both words are translated as “Russian” in English, which causes confusion in English, but there’s no such confusion in Russian.
These people (Dagestanis) are Russian in the first sense, but not the second sense.
Historically, the second sense of “Russian” included Ukrainians and Belarussians (so you could say Ukrainians were Russian in the second sense, but not the first sense) but it’s become controversial to do so since the Russian invasion of Ukraine.
Interesting! thanks for elaborating. A week or month ago, a local Ukrainski politician, I thought it was a lady person, proclaimed that using the Russian language the invaders use is like spitting in the face of your home country. She got a hell of a lot of pushback on that. That made it seem that a lot of locals still prefer Russian to Ukrainian language. Can you shed some light on those conflicting sentiments?
Was inspired to educate myself a bit extra on Cyrillic script, so, from the english wiki:
"As of 2011, around 252 million people in Eurasia use it as the official alphabet for their national languages. About half of them are in Russia. " … "The Slavic languages are conventionally (that is, also on the basis of extralinguistic features) divided into three subgroups: East, South, and West, which together constitute more than 20 languages. Of these, 10 have at least one million speakers and official status as the national languages of the countries in which they are predominantly spoken: Russian, Belarusian and Ukrainian (of the East group), Polish, Czech and Slovak (of the West group), Bulgarian and Macedonian (eastern members of the South group), and Serbo-Croatian and Slovene (western members of the South group) "
I can only approach this from the English language, which is why I said technically correct. But I also feel the article should have done a lot better job explaining that they were Dagestani, which is not unreasonable as if this had happened in Chechnya, it would have said Chechen.
Also, I have never seen Russian used interchangeably with Ukrainian, or Belarusian, before or after, 2014. But again, maybe that’s just my English language only bias.
That said, I do appreciate you writing on the explainer for other users who aren’t familiar with the status of, or distinction between Russia and the Caucasus.
this was a death in paradise episode!
s11e08
Lol just learned about that series. 100+ murders in the span of a few years in a remote Island with 10k population? Sounds plausible
haha yeah, the murder rate is a bit steep. as someone else said who had pointed it out to me on lemmy, its like comfort food. you kinda know what youre getting, but the characters are well written.
Sounds like a Dexter type show.
If chess players do this, what do you think Russian secret service it’s capable of?
I’m surprised it actually worked. Liquid mercury isn’t really that harmful, it’s the vapors that get you. I’d be concerned about it affecting me too, since I’d also be sitting at the board.
Probably not pure mercury but one of the extremely nasty mercury compounds that is easily absorbed through the skin. The victim was very sick.
Kamikaze poisoning… people at both sides will be suspects, seems like a good plan.
ever watched the princess bride?
Filters shoved deep in the nostrils maybe?
I’m no chemist but understand the liquid mercury is safe to handle for short periods provided you wash your hands well. It can absorb through your skin over time though.
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It just says attempted poisoning so I’m not even sure it did actually work.
Comments above say the opponent was hospitalized but not killed. I can’t swear to the veracity. There are many forms of mercury though and they vary in toxicity.
It’s a product of the state of a country that calls Gary Kasparov a terrorist. https://www.chess.com/news/view/russia-issues-arrest-warrant-for-kasparov-on-terrorist-charges
Sounds Russian.
Seeing as mercury fumes are the real danger (you can fairly safely handle elemental mercury, it won’t absorb into the skin) this seems like an exceptionally poor poisoning attempt. Maybe if you put a fan behind you so the fumes only waft into the opponents face…
Yeah I have so many questions. How would both players not get poisoned? Does mercury evaporate? I played with thermometer mercury as a child, does that explain things?
What an imbecile. Mercury is a planet. It is too large to be hidden anywhere on a chess board
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Wrong. Mercury is a god. He’s much too powerful to do the biddings of a puny mortal.
You’re both wrong, it’s a car. I’m pretty crazy about one though.
You all were close but, still wrong. Marie Curie was a scientist.
Marc Anthony is a singer/songwriter, pfffff.
And that scientists name? Albert Einstein.
You’re also wrong. He’s a singer known as Freddie. And I don’t know what kind of necromancy was used to get him on a chess board.
what kind of necromancy
This whole thread is a clue about that.
The necromancers used myrrh & curry.
Your wrong about that
She used mer-curry which she got from mer-people
It’s a mer-people specialty
Is mer-curry really worth all the murmaider?
(Prob yes)
I hear it’s in Gatorade
Gators are too big to fit in the bottles, can’t be that
not in microwave?
This comment is an underrated gem.
Bravo sir.
I told y’all in 2020 - build a giant fence around there and nobody go in for 100 years. After that we’ll check on ‘em. But nooooo “it’s too expensive” pfffft. And now look - it’s . . . whatever this is!
We could have had Australia 2!
What a bizarre way to try to murder someone. And over a chess game? I know Russians take their chess seriously, but this is insane.
wait till you hear about their approach to roulette!
Ok, this was really good
Oh boy, just wait until you read up on Russian politics/polonium toxicity!
How would it have poisoned just his rival and not also him? Touching it doesn’t do much unless you’re submerging your skin in it for long periods. The fumes would affect everyone. And it’s very unlikely his opponent would have licked the board to ingest the mercury.
Suicide chess player?
Organic mercury compounds can look like water and absorb quickly through skin, they can be potent enough for just a drop on your skin being deadly, even if you have gloves as it can penetrate quickly through many different rubbers. Metallic doesn’t kill you even if you ate it*. With metallic mercury highest risk is vapours but unless you heat it it will only become a problem in poorly ventalated areas.
*assuming you have no open wounds on your digestive tract and minor chronic damage might be still caused depending on amount and frequency.
Metallic doesn’t kill you even if you ate it
The article says it’s safe to touch and even swallow, but inhaling it causes problems consistent with the victim’s symptoms.
How would it have poisoned just his rival and not also him?
Don’t know, but both players were women.
it was all a result of a misunderstanding. his coach told him to focus on the H, G files of the chessboard and he heard that as something else.
*she
ah, so it was another misunderstanding, then. she was taught that the queen can do absolutely anything on the chess board and proceeded accordingly.
It took me way too long to realize this was supposed to be a joke because Hg is the chemical symbol for Mercury. Such an easy thing to mishear.
Should have used polonium instead, like the dear leader
