Donald Trump’s plan to tap the retired US lieutenant general Keith Kellogg as US envoy to Ukraine and Russia has triggered renewed interest in a policy document he co-authored that proposes ending the war by withdrawing weapons from Ukraine if it doesn’t enter peace talks – and giving even more weapons to Ukraine if Russia doesn’t do the same.
Trump is said to have responded favorably to the plan – America First, Russia & Ukraine – which was presented to him in April and was written by Kellogg and the former CIA analyst Fred Fleitz, who both served as chiefs of staff in Trump’s national security council from 2017 to 2021.
The document proposes halting further US weapons deliveries to Kyiv if it does not enter peace talks with Moscow, while simultaneously warning Moscow that, should it refuse to negotiate, US support for Ukraine would increase.
Maybe try that approach with Israel instead…
think about it: this will make US citizens as targeted abroad as isrealis. and from how i understand MAGA they really really like to tell everyone they are victims.
fuck hamas! fuck herzbülläh!
You can’t stop Ukraine from defending itself even if you pull the support. Europe should fill the void.
I think we should but Europe doesn’t have close to the mean to produce enough weapon as it is. When we started to help Ukraine we realized we couldn’t even produce enough riffle bullets let alone missiles.
Europe is not a federal state. Military speaking there is no Europe. There’s a bunch of small countries with their own industry and military capabilities. If Ukraine has french launchers they’ll depend on the French industry to produce rockets, not on a 500M people country called “Europe” who has the capabilities to reorganize productions.
And currently no country in Europe is ready to relinquish militaries capabilities and prerogatives to the union.
I"ve read that the EU’s working on setting-up a standing army, small, but actual, & directly deployable…
According to this, nope:
https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2024/05/29/fact-check-is-the-eu-setting-up-a-european-army
it does seem strange, though:
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the extra-delay of extra-layers-of-bureaucracy is idiotic, in some situations, &
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NATO’s gutted, once Trump steps-in, as he’s a Putin ally, openly…
it’d be SANE to be doing that, with Trump & Putin dominating the world, in mere-weeks…
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Tbh my money is on Ukraine following through on their threat to do a crash nuclear weapons program. If the rest of the world won’t actually help them meaningfully, they’ll defend their interests as they see fit - as they should.
That’s not a part of the disarmament treaty the US and Ukraine signed as the Soviet union integrated who in their right mind will ever trust the US again when it comes to treaties. And who’s ever going to stand alongside the US in future if they ever need it, they’d be crazy to.
That treaty said that the US and Russia would not attack Ukraine. It did not say the US would defend Ukraine against an attack.
The US held up its end.
Fucking traitors. We cannot let the republicunts get off scot-free.
The Dems had the opportunity to do something,
& they instead committed assumption-of-victory & making-believing-of-victory.
Those don’t work.
Trump promised his followers they’d never have to vote again.
Don’t expect to be able to escape Trump’s rule:
they’ve literally 10’s of thousands of appointees lined-up to prevent civil-rights from ever interfering with their highjacking of the country.
It wouldn’t surprise me if Trump had the entire Dem electorate arrested, shortly after stepping-in, & had someone torture/interrogate some of them, until a “confession” was produced, & then hanged them all, outside of the gov’t buildings.
I don’t think he’s got the balls to do that, but he’s openly admired Putin’s psychopathy, & through the years, he’s becoming more & more psychopathic himself…
where will he draw the line, today? tomorrow? the following season? the next year?
The Dems gave away their chance.
I don’t expect them to ever get any chance to correct anything, now.
Some changes are permanent, in spite of “status quo’s” pretending that nothing changes…
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( sorry I replied 2x: I didn’t remember having replied, before…
brain-injury, so memory problems.
I’ll leave both up, to show that I’m daft, is all.
Apologies : )
You kind of have to Intervene before they win an election.
