I had an account on lemmy.one and now the instance has been down for a day or two so I made this new account. I also heard other small instances are dead or disappeared.
So which ones do you think will actually stick around for a long time?
ALSO, does anyone know how to get my subscriptions from lemmy.one and import it here? TIA!
now I feel an obligation to keep my instance alive as long as I physically can
That’s nice!
I guess instances run by SDF. They’ve been around since 1987 when they started with BBS. And since 1991 they are running the public access UNIX system. They also have Mastodon servers, Minecraft server and other stuff. These are their Lemmy instances:
lemmy.sdf.org - somewhere in US
lemmy.sdfeu.org - Falkenstein, Vogtland, Germany
lemmy.sdfjp.org - Tokyo, Japan
lemmy.sdfcn.org - Hong Kong
lemmy.sdfin.org - Mumbai, IndiaCool! I’ll sign upf or one.
Yeah. Good list.
No one really knows but I’d imagine the bigger ones the you see now like world ml kbin and others would stick around.
It’s true that several instances (the ones hosted in Mali?) closed, but I think you’re premature in saying the smaller instances are disappearing, Lemmy.one included.
Sure, they’re bound to crash or go down for maintenance from time to time, but that doesn’t mean they’re finished. So far my experience has been that if you give it a couple days they’ll be back. Keep in mind these are shoestring operations and sometimes seeing major influxes of users.
I don’t know. My friend was in another instance and he said it’s gone now and went back to Reddit.
Don’t think this is a strange phenomenon or that it’s permanent. I’ve seen Mastodon (and Pleroma and Misskey etc) instances get born and die regularly. This is because it’s easy to set up an instance but it’s also easy to fall in an economic problem or just give up.
Not everyone is ready to set up their own instance; it requires dedication and resources.
The fediverse really needs some kind of universal login and a way to easily migrate accounts between instances.
Not so much migrate as be able to use it from anywhere and have it replicated. Same with communities.
Give things a unique ID, and access it from anywhere, even if the original server goes away.
This kind of thing may not be possible with current ActivityPub protocols, but there’s always room for improvement.
The universal login is a very old suggestion but it’srealluy hard to pull off because that would have to be build into the core of the protocol. About the migration, that’s a Lemmy issue, not a general Fediverse one
Not really; login mechanisms are a separate thing. OAuth already exists. You only need Fediverse software to accept OAuth from anywhere and to provide it to others.
The migration part is IMO harder, but not necessarily by much. I don’t know of any fediverse software that’d allow it though.
What I mean with “universal login” is one account for multiple Fediverse services, I guess that wasn’t clear from my post. Yea, proper migration is hard and questionable if we should even allow it (could cause all kinds of issues, espwcially regarding account security) but Mastodon allows you to move your followers and add a redirect which is the most important part of the account and Lemmy should probably try to do something similar with ranks and communities.
Lenny.ca, hopefully. 🤞
I don’t want to figure everything out again.
Me too. 🥹
Out of the loop, what happened to Lemmy.one?
Seems to be down, I haven’t heard any news but can no longer log in
Website seems to still exist, maybe they’re doing some involved equipment upgrade.
Some people are speculating a database error, because apparently 0.18.3 requires a database migration to work, here’s the other post I just saw about this: https://lemdit.com/post/262746
That makes sense, maybe there’s hope for it.
I think probably this is it. Db upgrades are scary as hell.
how to get my subscriptions from lemmy.one and import it here?
Unfortunately there is no way to do that yet, but I remembered that there is an unofficial tool that let you transfer your subscriptions like you said
Edit: There isand open issue that might talking about it: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/1985
I’ll throw my tool out there as well: https://github.com/CMahaff/lasim
Unfortunately, you need access to the old server to download the list of communities and blocks - but that’s true of all tools that do this.
https://github.com/wescode/lemmy_migrate
Just used this the other day, worked like a charm (albeit a bit slow if I’m honest)
How do I install this on Windows? I don’t know how to code. 😭
use https://github.com/CMahaff/lasim , easier
OMG this is the one I saw. THANK YOU!
Look into the WSL
Here’s a thread where I helped someone else with the process on windows: https://lemmy.sdf.org/comment/1420339
The steps are:
- Set up the python code
- Go to https://github.com/wescode/lemmy_migrate/releases/tag/v1.1.0
- Download the zip file
- Extract the zip file, to make a folder somewhere on your system called lemmy_migrate-1.1.0. Remember where this folder is
- Inside the folder you will find a file called
config.ini
. Use notepad to edit the file to have your server URL and login credentials.
- Set up the python interpreter
- Install python from https://www.python.org/downloads/
- Open powershell
- install the python package requests by pasting the following command into powershell:
py -m pip install --user requests
- Use the python interpreter to interpret your python
- first make sure powershell is looking at the correct folder. One way to do this is to open the lemmy_migrate-1.1.0 folder in windows explorer. right click on the box that shows you the path, and copy the text. then write
cd <pasted path>
in powershell. This path will very likely be something likeC:\\Users\Wu9fee\Downloads\lemmy_migrate-1.1.0
. If you don’t want to copy and paste the path from explorer, you can just docd Downloads
thencd lemmy_migrate-1.1.0
- Finaly, you can run the python command with
py lemmy-migrate.py -c config.ini
- first make sure powershell is looking at the correct folder. One way to do this is to open the lemmy_migrate-1.1.0 folder in windows explorer. right click on the box that shows you the path, and copy the text. then write
Let me know if you run into any problems.
If you can pull this off, you can officially say you know how to code.
Nice! I knew someone would know how to do this in PowerShell!
Thanks for the tutorial! I might try but it looks hard. 🤔
Not too hard. Just alot of unfamiliar vocabulary. 😄 If you run into any questions with either of our walk throughs, (my linux one or @lemming934@lemmy.sdf.org 's Powershell one), feel free to DM me. Don’t mind helping folks starting their exploration of computers. We all started somewhere.
It’s not too bad, it seems more difficult because I added all the steps. Changing the folder PowerShell is looking at is easy to do, but hard to explain.
- Set up the python code
If you don’t have an experience using the command line then it’s a tad more involved then I can explain in-depth on mobile. Best I can do is give a brief outline.
To start with, wescode/lemmy_migrate is a python 3 script. If you are running windows install WSL (Ubuntu), once you have a command line I am familiar with you will want to download the repository from GitHub to a directory.
You will then need to create a config file called
migrate.conf
Use the sample provided in the repo under configuration. Edit it to use your information. You can use nano as a text editor.Then it looks like the command would be something like:
python lemmy_migrate -c ./migrate.conf
Sorry if that is crap help, but I’m not near my computer right now, and don’t often use Windows anymore to boot.
PS:
WSL is a program from Microsoft that gives you a mostly functional Linux command line within Windows. None of this is as complicated as it sounds, I’m using more words then strictly necessary to explain things somewhat at beginner level. The most time consuming part of this would be first installing WSL and then installing Ubuntu onto WSL. There are plenty of tutorials on how to do so.
Hopefully someone more familiar with Windows can tell you how to do the same thing from either the DOS prompt or from Windows PowerShell. It’s doable, (almost anything is) I’m just not familiar enough with either to walk you through it.
It’s confusing for me 😅 but I will try.
Just search for tutorials based on the key words from my post and you’ll get there.
I am sorry for the RTFM post though. Been a rough day and haven’t been able to get near a computer to do a better write up for you.
I found another tool: https://github.com/CMahaff/lasim, from: https://lemmy.world/comment/857727, p.s. I haven’t tried it
Used this one, works very well.
Seems like this would be a great feature for the myriad of Lemmy mobile apps… nightly backups of your Lemmy account settings and a button to recreate it on a new instance
I’m pretty happy with kbin.social. It’s a nice place, with several devs actively looking at making the experience better, it just takes a while being an open source project and all
No proper mobile support kills it for me
There’s a mobile app in the works, Artemis. Things will be a bit better when the site gets official API support and more services can connect to it
This is one reason that I think many people should consider running their own single-user instance or tiny instances for close friends/family.
One of the problems with centralization is literally the fact that this can happen. The more small servers the fedi is comprised of, the stronger it is. There are also a huge number of benefits to this configuration on an individual level as well.
EDIT: Re: importing/exporting your old account is, unfortunately, a thing that cannot be done currently. I’m happy to be corrected on that, though.
I don’t know how to code so I don’t know how to run my own instance. 💀
If it’s ever something you want to try, it’s one of the easier servers to self host and there’s a lot of helpful resources out there. There really isn’t any coding involved outside of editing a few configuration files unless you want there to be.
https://github.com/CMahaff/lasim allows to import subscriptions/blocked
Same with aussie.zone and other country spesifc instances
Also aussie.zone, checking in
Aussie.zone here, mount up
Aussie.zoners, mount up.
I’d like to say lemmy.world, but a lot of communities you’d think would be quite active are actually not so.
That’s the thing about the fediverse, you need to be the change you want to see. Post a lot and contribute.
I will try and post something new every day to help keep new content flowing in. Can’t expect everyone else to just keep us entertained. :)
You’re right, it at the same time a small number of people trying to post regularly, regardless of whether they’ve got something that really needs posting, doesn’t tend to provide high-quality content - and I fear that’s what we’re seeing a lot on Lemmy right now.
Yeah I have thought about that, but I think it’s better to have a lot of content than no content. Of course the optimal would be if everyone posted quality content but maybe it’s more important to just have new content now they Lemmy is growing.
I think if Lemmy becomes very big, there will be enough users that people who want a bit higher quality can just skip the meme communities and all that and opt for better quality communities.
Yeah I think this one will last forever. Everyone is on it and they have lots of supporters.
Gotta give it time. Lemmy in general only took off like 6 weeks ago
Mine’s gonna stick around for as long as I use fedi
I plan to bounce around anyway. The fediverse is great.
Yeah but it’s hard because my subscriptions are gone.
I regularly backup my subscriptions using the migration tools
I feel like most of the “country” oriented instances will last (and grow) as it is a more purposeful reason to exist, and this extends to instances with very clear themes as it also gives users more of a reason for people to join them.
I joined lemmy.ca but I’m not Canadian. There is no country instance for me. 😢
The law states that if you join .ca, you’re legally Canadian. Congrats on your new citizenship!
What country do…I mean did you belong to before you became Canadian?
Somewhere in a little island in Asia 😉