What is number 3 from?
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6 please
Obviously its 6
It’s facinating to see Lemmy go wild, kind of sad how many seem to support dictators with concentration camps and similar shit but also cool how many downvote them!
The only state with concentration camps in the real world is the USA and its colony in Palestine.
So, I follow the Texas Tribune, and we get a story or two every week about heat waves in Texas prisons killing another dozen people while the state legislature refuses to fund air condition to get temperatures under 90 degrees inside cells. We also get the periodic story about migrant detention camps on the border with agents caught doing human trafficking, physical and sexual abuse up to and including outright torture, and the horrific death of small children. Finally, there’s the annual tradition of investigating Texas CPS or Texas Juvenile detention officials for a new raft of allegations involving agents trading nude pictures of children for narcotics or cash.
Every day a new horror in the Lone Star State, and we just kinda shrug and insist this is how a liberal democracy with a well-educated electorate and professional political institutions are supposed to behave.
Meanwhile, when Keonmi Park does another interview with Joe Rogan, we just eat that shit up with a spoon.
Western Internet Culture is a real mindfuck.
And China. And North Korea. And Russia. And Syria.
USA is absolutely a huge hypocrite. But that doesn’t mean other countries are justified for doing the same
I don’t know how it’s hard to comprehend that you can just dislike both
Is it the same though? Even if you have major disagreements with the treatment of uyghurs (the actual treatment, not the unsourced adrian zenz propaganda version), it’s not the same as Palestine. I mean come on, look at the decades of apartheid rule and the world’s largest open air prison (Gaza)
Or look at the US’ own treatment of migrants, the deplorable conditions in detention and the arguably worse treatment when they are illegally deported pending their asylum hearing, etc.
Conflating china’s overreaches/missteps with the US’s decades long history of horrible treatment of the third world and even their own citizens is disgusting. You can criticise both without uncritically buying into propaganda, but everyone that is absolutely rabid about china always seems to be “well its bad but totally redeeemable” about the United States which is inarguably a worse force in the world, and far less popular at home too.
The USA is bad so everyone can be, right? Cause that’s your fucking logic
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Nah, he looks better without it.
“Swiper no swipen!”
Yo so lemmy.world isn’t run by tankies? If it is could y’all just ban me now so I don’t invest too much in the instance pls? I got kind of sick of the constant cycle of disappointment seeing how many supposedly leftist subs were taken over and ruined by them on reddit.
What the fuck are “tankies”?
They’re everywhere. EVERYWHERE I TELL YOU. Even on the largest search engine known to man.
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we live rent free in their heads, as we should.
There are dozens of us!
Dumbasses who unironically defend Stalin and Mao. Left authoritarians basically
Can’t exist on same server as people with different ideology reeeee
You sound like a conservative. Wonder why?
This is the weird thing I notice about lemmy so far. It’s even more of an echo chamber than reddit
It’s more interesting to see different viewpoints, I’ll probably be called conservative just for saying this
See, here’s one of them
They’re like an infestation. Quick get the roach spray!
More like american 80s action movies since traficked and unoficially dubed version of those where all the rage back at the ussr which claimed it hated american culture so much.
People that see Mao and Lenin and somehow think authoritarian dictatorships are democratic utopias.
And why would anyone care about Albert Einstein’s view on Lenin? An obvious fallacious appeal to authority, and not even a very smart one.
That’s if this is even true.
Einstein is a jewish that lived through the Russian revolution and lived in Germany during the rise of Hitler before his escape to the US. As far as period accounts he’s as good as you’re gonna get, and I don’t know about you but I don’t think we’re going to find a more intelligent person alive during that period but if you want to give examples that aren’t nazis or people that said nice things about nazis I’m certainly open to them.
And he was an extremely active leftist politically during the period. You should read his essay, Why Socialism? It’s a good introductory piece for people.
Also something of a smart man.
Page 14 of the 260 page FBI file on him states the following:
Not even Stalin himself is affiliated with so many anarcho-communist international groups to promote this “preliminary condition” of world revolution and ultimate anarchy, as Albert Einstein.
Those files are a fun read, do recommend them. Available on the FBI vault here.
Imagine when someone points out you’re being illogical by using an appeal to authority and you respond by… doubling down on an appeal to authority. That’s some Marx-tier dialectical thinking there, comrade
“Being illogical is when you consider one of history’s most important users of logic a person that should probably be listened to.”
TIL appeal to authority is when you cite someone with relevant experience as maybe having thoughts worth listening to on the subject. It’s not merely because he’s a smart physicist, but also because he had a wide variety of political life experience and makes good arguments.
You present no counter argument and just yell “fallacy”. Neither you nor the original reply even bothered to check the veracity of the quote or cite any reasons for or against einstein’s opinion, merely dismissing it out of hand and implying it is ridiculous.
So…yeah, a naked appeal to authority. Einstein was nigh-unmatchable in his field, but that doesn’t mean his intelligence was applicable to every other field. In fact, one of the worst things you can do is consider an expert in one field an automatic ‘authority’ in others.
The same people shitting on Einstein right now are also the same people that treat media as a political authority. I can’t take it seriously at all.
Name a better authority that was alive in the period who I won’t be able to show worshipped the nazis at some point.
An obvious fallacious appeal to authority
Applying logic and reason to a post about a President’s silly haircuts.
I heard that they arent. Those be just the .ml ones. Its confusing since lemmy.ml and lemmy.world are presented as the main ones.
It isn’t, I do not remove posts for “Orientalism” like Lemmy.ml and that certainly won’t be done by Lemmy.World Admins. Happy shitposting
That’s good to hear, thanks.
Welcome, comrade
What’s a tankie
Do you really not know or are you pretending not to know because you want to be able to claim it’s a meaningless term?
Also there’s already an explanation in this thread.
I’m sorry, I’m being extra lazy today. I didn’t know, I’ll delete the comment :3
Okay, sorry, it’s just often tankies will say “what is a tankie?” because of the reasons I mentioned. Case in point, look at the person saying “what the fuck is a tankie” then immediately mocking the person who answered them.
I’m sorry for my snark, I slept poorly and should probably not be interacting with people rn.
Edit: oh, looks like that thread was nuked so I was wrong about the question already being answered lol. I owe you even more apologies ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Basically a tankie is someone that wants to be a socialist or a communist but thinks that means supporting the USSR or Maoist China, which are self-admittedly state capitalist.
The term originally comes from people who supported the USSR rolling tanks into Hungary to crush their rebellion. Lately such people have supported Russia’s invasion of Ukraine on the basis that anything anti-US interests is somehow socialist, despite modern Russia just being a nakedly hypercapitalist/fascist dystopia, and also despite the expansionist invasion just being like super obviously evil.
Honestly I’ve never seen a tankie in the wild. Maybe just luck
That’s super informative, so most people are just ignoringly saying that communism pertains to USSR or Maoist China when they were actually capitalist states? Is this a recent development?
I don’t know anything tbh but Karl Marx seemed pretty commie so idk what happened to change it.
Yes. It seems to be a propaganda echo chamber they’ve placed themselves in where they wholesale distrust any western/European media and 100% trust all Chinese/Russian state media. They full on defend Russia and China as a core part of their political ideology.
Don’t worry. I asked what a tankie was on my first day on lemmy. I learned, sure enough, I learned.
Tankie is to the Left of me.
Russian Troll is to the Right of me.
Here I am, in the Radical Center with you.
Tankies are not lefists. Don’t let them fool you. They are statists who are nationalistic and will support fascistic ideology. The only thing they believe is America Bad and therefore anything that hates America is good. Brain dead
Tankies are not lefists.
The only folks I ever see accused of being tankies are to the left of the folks claiming they are tankies. Sometimes that means you’re talking to Michael Moore. Sometimes that means you’re talking to Pete Buttigieg. Sometimes that means you’re talking to Mitt Romney. But its always a guy to your left.
The only thing they believe is America Bad
The dirty little secret about American politics is that everyone thinks America Bad. Texas conservatives hate California. New York liberals hate Florida. Half of Michigan hates the other half. When the US gets hit by a hurricane, its either because the state at ground zero is too Christian or too Libertarian or too Gay, take your pick.
If hating America is all it takes to be a Tankie…
It’s also the fascism they support. They are all okay with “communist” China and Russia and I have met too many tankies who unironically support North Korea. Such a joke.
Tankies just use leftist populism as a facade, like how the Nazis did, but deep down their values don’t align with actual communists and anarchists.
Yeah it’s pretty dead brained. Obviously America has problems and I’ll be the first one to point out it’s flaws. I do my best to learn about them and be aware of them.
That doesn’t mean that China gets to genocide anyone they don’t like.
lemmy.world isn’t run by tankies?
This instance is not communist-run.
There are far more people foaming at the mouth about tankies – like a someone out of the 50s screaming about communists – than actual tankies.
There are a few threads I’ve seen happen – and instigated – where I was overwhelmingly downvoted by tankies yelling at me about “anglo/western fascism” and denying the uighur genocide. They defend the Chinese government with a fervor that easily marks them as tankies. It’s a real problem.
I’ve seen my fair share of tankies on this platform, it’s a very real problem.
It fell off into a toilet. Now he can’t find it.
6
4
The Xi/Winnie the Pooh shit is so played out/hack at this point
No, it’s still super funny and we’ve even got a second joke now: SOCIAL CREDIT XD XD
Damn guess I’m never gonna make it as a true meme artist. Oh well, at least you laughed your little ass off from numbers 1-5.
The fact they were offended at 6 and missed 1 is fascinating.
The entire thing sucks lol. Sorry you dipshits are so Reddit pilled you still only have one joke. Instead of saying lol he’s just like hitler lol he doesn’t like it when us dank memers refer to him as a cartoon character, you should share the numerous human rights atrocities he’s commited and call for his public execution
You’re totally right! Lemmyshitpost is the best place to have a serious and nuanced discussion about the atrocities committed by Xi and the CCP. And here I was thinking this was just a place to SHITPOST ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Streisand effect has to keep going, we don’t make the rules.
From where was 3.? I can recognize all the others
yo did you just fucking drop memebase wtf year is this
It’s 2011.
The sun is shining. Obama just made a nice little speech on the radio and is now followed Katy Perry’s Fireworks. Life is great
You feel a vibration. It’s your new smartphone in your pocket. You got a poke from a friend on facebook. You poke them back. It’s the only courteous thing to do.
Bzzt, bzzt. That friend sent you a message. It’s a link. You click it.
Holy fucking shit, it’s been years since I’ve even heard about ‘pokes’!
Looks like an avocado to me.
I believe it’s 6 but it might be the one with the nine dash line. He loves that.
Professor Xi