And GG Allin, probably.

Unfortunately it won’t prevent another one taking his place. Especially with the 2020’s constitutional referendum that basically lets Russian war criminals get away unpunished. I think the whole country is fucked beyond repair at this point.

No shame in that. You could start accustoming your ears by searching YT for “bass and drums isolated” and listen to those versions and then the originals and see if you separate the bass better.

Scientological masturbation

They’re about 10 years too early. The random aching starts at 40 something.

Ancient?! It clearly says “2 hours ago” ffs…

Any update on this?

Good stuff. Reminds me of the best PBF but with much less sinister undertones.

Most (non-techy) people haven’t heard from it and don’t bother searching for alternatives since WA is ubiquitous.

As a Signal user and an Esperantist I agree. They both require a somewhat curious mind for you to bump into them in the first place. Unless you have that friend/relative who always recommends weird stuff for you (to ignore).

…rillaamaan

Yes, I mean it’s pretty much a sunk cost fallacy at this point. Just cut your losses and move on (in this case, to Lemmy).

Yes. There was a time when I. as a young man, wanted to at least visit the good ole US and A. Back then I didn’t have the money. Now when I probably could afford it, I don’t have the desire anymore.

Where’s the cursor? Where’s the eraser?

I certainly think factory farming is unethical (I wish to put a stop to it, even) and that killing animals is bad.

Hey, we’re exactly the same in this respect! The only difference being other talking the talk instead of walking the walk.

The fact that something had to die in order for me to get my daily sustenance …

Ah, the good ole “circle of death” a.k.a appeal to nature fallacy.

Factory farming is horrible for the environment … but the way we produce protein plants is bad for the environment as well, especially if farmed at the level needed to sustain a civilization.

We have to feed the animal mass, hence the double impact on environment. Your argument is actually in favor of veganism, not against it.

Logically, if we wanna live as ethically as possible, we should just kill ourselves so that we don’t have to eat anything

To live and be dead at the same time? That sure sounds logical. Veganism is about reducing harm done to animals as much as is practically possible.

I’m simply willing to compromise at a closer point than you are in how evil I’m willing to be. Eliminating evil from the world is impossible, so you must be able to be content with a harsh and cruel world or you will not be very mentally healthy.

Some people choose even closer point than you in how evil they’re willing to be. Without going into gory examples, I guess you’d just be content with it? I mean even if it’s not illegal doesn’t mean it’s right, right?

Humans were also built to eat meat … The reason we have sharp teeth and front-facing eyes …

Yes, exactly like lions.

“When humans eat flesh, we don’t actually tear it with our cuspids. Instead, we soften meat with cooking and then pre-tear it with utensils before grinding it down with our flattened molars, which are particularly well-suited for chewing vegetation.” Source

Human beings are still apart of nature even as far as we’ve come today, and throughout history, attempts to completely shut out our nature have usually come back to bite us in the ass.

You buying your meat at the store, nicely vacuumed has nothing to do with nature. Despite any lion fantasies.

There’s also the fact that there are so many things I’d rate higher on the totem pole of evil (I can list some of them if you want) in modern society, and things I simply need to deal with with much more urgency, that I and many others ain’t got time to worry about farm animals.

This is an example of the laziness I was talking about in the earlier comment.

From Nazis’ perspective, they’re simply making the world a better place by getting rid of their, you guessed it, oppressors.

Now this is not lazy. It’s 4D chess or something. Anyway I’ve lost the plot already.

Making fun of Jews would be punching up if you go by their logic.

You could try that at a comedy club. (A place not run by Nazis ofc.)

Meanwhile, making fun of pedophiles also implicates those who are simply unfortunate enough to be stuck with the illness and don’t actually cause any harm.

Yes, that’s unfortunate. Hope they get the treatment they deserve.

I wouldn’t put factory farming on the same level as the Holocaust. Despite using similar technologies and methods, factory farming has an actual goal, that being to ensure that people get fed and that civilization doesn’t, y’know, collapse due to famine.

Factory farming has a goal alright. It’s to destroy the global ecosystem and bring profit to multi national corporations while doing it. In fact, if most of the population went plant based, the soil would be used to grow stuff that could be utilized straight by humans, thus removing the animal from the equation. Also, there would be enough of food to easily feed the whole world population.

yes it does

Argument Clinic sketch flashbacks

Firstly, punching down doesn’t make something unfunny, it just usually is unfunny. When I do it, I find it very funny, and so do a lot of people in the audience.

I have to admit, you do have some comical traits come to think of it.

Secondly, I’m making fun of vegans, the farm animals are just collateral damage.

As a vegan, no offense taken even if I don’t find your lines especially funny. But by proxy, I’m taking offense on behalf of the “farm animals”, because if I don’t, who else would?

I’m just always baffled by how easily carnists turn a blind eye to animal cruelty. Or turn it into a “comedy show” like in this case. Ofc, part of it is the whitewashing and propaganda spouted by the meat and dairy industry. Another part is that people don’t want to think about it because it would compel them to re-think their consuming habits (and people tend to be lazy, myself included).

Thirdly, they don’t count because they aren’t human beings.

Speciesism much?

Fourthly, there is nothing wrong with siding with the strong, otherwise we wouldn’t be allowed to make jokes at the expense of people like pedophiles and Nazis, who are on the fringes of civilized society and reviled by all.

You’ve got it all backwards, man. Veganism is about reducing harm, not increasing it (compared to what pedos and Nazis do). Funnily you bring up the topic of Nazis into this, as we, as the oppressors, are the stronger opponent and there’s a Holocaust 2.0 ongoing, only it’s nicely hidden from the public view.

Just because this is a meme community it doesn’t justify joking about factory farming, especially when “hitting from above” and siding with the stronger opponent.

More metal for your enjoyment.

Eat yourself then.

IMO pus quaffer has some grind core vibes. That said, in real life, there’s nothing “metal” in animal exploitation. If your mindset is truly like “they call me bloodmouth, it’s metal, I’m a bloodmouth”, then I guess you’d be either a 12 year old or trolling. In either case, i hope you grow out of it.

Well, there are others like cheese breathers, pus quaffers, bee vomit suckers, chicken period munchers and so on.