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        It’s hilarious when they say this. “Sending money over there” is a literal catchphrase for Trumpers.

        He’s full of catchphrases like this. It’s all he knows how to do, rile up his idiot fanbase, because that’s what it is, (no politician should have a fanbase) and shift blame/dodge questions. And he is frighteningly good at it.

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          It’s hilarious when they say this. “Sending money over there” is a literal catchphrase for Trumpers.

          Say what? How is that even a catchphrase? I don’t recall hearing anyone ever say that “catchphrase.” Who told you “sending money over there” is somehow a protrump catchphrase?

          Lemme help you. You are generalizing stereotypes, never a smart thing to do. I do agree about this:

          no politician should have a fanbase

          I’m certainly no trumpster, and personally hate how he has turned the conservative party into the “trump party.” I have some conservative leaning views as well as some more liberal views.

          Don’t be so ready to classify people and turn it into a “us vs them” issue. We should try not to stoke the flames of division, there is more than enough of that.

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            It’s a talking point… stay with me… that turned into a “catchphrase” because it’s used so much. It’s not to be taken literally.

            Still with me or?

            You cannot have a debate with a Trumper without him/her saying “democrats send money over there” in one form or another.

            If you don’t fall into this category, congrats! This comment isn’t about you!

            But no, I will as divisive as I need to with Trumpers, they are a cancer on this society that is attempting to take root in the heart of our country yet again. They should be ridiculed and weeded out, forced back into the shadows where they can nurse their wounded egos and barely.masked bigotry in solitude.

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              Uhg, gross… your attitude (and opinions) is ignorant and contemptible. I’m guessing you’re probably a teenager.

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        I think people get confused when they see millions of dollars in aid. They don’t get it’s all equipment that probably wouldn’t have been used again anyway and think the US just prints a bunch of extra cash to send over.

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      You think the cost of eggs has something to do with defense spending?

      Also, when one country just straight up invades another, it can be pretty easy to choose which side is the aggressor and thus less worthy of support. But that’s just me.

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      I dont have a dog in this fight.

      Of course you do. Allowing borders to be redrawn by force isn’t good for stability anywhere.

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      It’s literally on the other side of the planet.

      Lol and there’s just no way to get information about something happening on the other side of the planet. Why, it takes our square-riggers six months to sail from there to here!

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      Bring your hate and downvotes. There will be 2 or 3 that understand the situation better than I, and I’m sure that will come and try to educate me.

      So if you know this is the case, why would you not just do that research?

      I understand the cost of living is very high, but there are numerous factors that play into that and specifically to the example of eggs the war in Ukraine wouldn’t affect that supply chain in a significant way, and the aid also shouldn’t impact it.

      Providing aid, beyond preventing the war from being lost, potentially embolding Russia to continue advancing, is simply the right thing to do. Obviously Western nations have the privilege of being at peace, but that doesn’t mean we should blindly turn our backs to the many countries who make our current situation possible through numerous imports and trade.

      At the end of the day, you’re entitled to be frustrated by the rising costs of living, and you’re welcome to be angry about the war, but the way you worded your post feels more like willful ignorance than any real attempt to formally become educated.

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        I appreciate your opinion. I have “done that research” but there will always be someone who is more educated/better informed than I. I’m not so ignorant to believe that I alone know it all or have been better informed than some others.

        Providing aid, beyond preventing the war from being lost, potentially embolding Russia to continue advancing, is simply the right thing to do.

        I believe this indicates you are not one who is more informed than I. And potentially, it indicates you are less informed. But of course, based on what you understand, you take a stand on what you believe is right, and I fault you none for that.

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      Translated : I don’t know shit, so you can’t know shit. Corporations are gouging my shit, and I mad at Democrats for it.

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              Lol. Yeah, exclude opposing opinions obnoxious, idiotic noise, go live in your liberal echo chamber

              FTFY

              Also, why do you have such a hardon for Trump when you aren’t an American?

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                  One: that comment you deleted where you put the dollar sign ($) in the wrong spot – nobody does that.

                  Two: your “American English” (while excellent) sounds … off, when read aloud.

                  Three: you can read the following Shibboleth aloud and you’ll have no idea what it means:

                  ooh day ooh yay eek spay ig pay at in lay?

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                Lol. And this is just an ad hominem attack. Not my fault you only understand opposing opinions as “word vomit”

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                  Trying to take the high road after being a pretty awful jerk to people is a bold move. Either way, it’s not an attack, it’s the reality of whatever that was.

                  I’m all about opposing opinions they just need to have, ya know, a single coherent thought in them. Just because I don’t want to here some cry/rambling nonsense doesn’t make me close minded, it shows in value my time lol.

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                    Are you even reading the comments? Everyone that comes and is polite and respectful, I also treat politely and respectfully… or, more honestly, I’ve been trying…

                    I have been receiving lots of personal attacks, I think it has put me on the defense, and I have probably poorly.

                    You are also insulting and disrespectful. Anyway…

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        I think the proper translation is “Da, let us argue amongst ourselves comrades. American pig dogs do not understand Mother Russia.”

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      First, a dozen eggs don’t cost twelve dollars.

      Second, in America the currency indicator comes before the number.

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        Why do people think a dozen eggs costs $12?

        A quick search turned up this 18 count of eggs for $9 at our local chain. And that was just the first result I found that had the price on the page (you have to click a button to see it, unfortunately, but it is there).

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            At Ralph’s 12 cage free large eggs cost $3.99

            Free range (the most expensive if you are conscious about chicken treatment) large eggs are for $7.49

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      I’m not saying I have better insight about that war, but from my understanding, Ukraine shouldn’t join NATO

      Well it’s a good thing that from the understanding of the people who make the choices you’re in the wrong.

      I think it should be readily obvious why the USA should defend a country against an act of aggression. For one thing, violating international boundaries and seizing land through war ought to be punished. The precedent should be set that doing so brings about international rebuke and strong consequences. For another, the USA made a security guarantee to Ukraine when they gave up their nuclear weapons. We should make good on it.

      Ukraine joining NATO would have prevented this war. Russia isn’t going to war with a country in NATO - just look at the Baltic states. They joined NATO to protect against a possible Russian aggression just like what’s happening now in Ukraine. That worked. It would have worked for Ukraine and it’s part of why I believe Putin pulled the trigger on this before Ukraine was in NATO.

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        I appreciate you coming with fair enough opinions without personal attacks.

        If Ukraine joined NATO, it might not have prevented this attack, and that’s the huge issue. Putin has indicated that it would not have stopped the invasion, which you seem to be educated enough to understand that would probably start WW3.

        It would have worked for Ukraine, and it’s part of why I believe Putin pulled the trigger on this before Ukraine was in NATO.

        I can believe that because I think Putin doesn’t necessarily want to start WW3. But he has indicated that it wouldn’t have stopped him as well.

        I personally don’t believe it’s worth to risk WW3 over the conflict of Ukraine and Russia. The history and issues of Ukraine and Russia are long, complicated, and frankly, IMO, hardly any business of ours.

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          I’m educated enough to know you’re either deep in a hole of disinformation / misinformation or on Russia’s side. We learned that appeasement doesn’t work with Nazi Germany and other examples, Russia being the latest.

          If you know of the history and issues of Russia and Ukraine then you’d know they’re intrinsically linked to the USA and “Western” interests going pretty far back. Plus lots of trade flows through Ukraine and they export a ton of food - it’s important to lots of innocent people who are also impacted by the war even if it’s not by blood loss. The costs in lives is too high but also the costs in material, in trust, in future cooperation between nations has been eroded by Putin’s actions.

          I can believe that because I think Putin doesn’t necessarily want to start WW3. But he has indicated that it wouldn’t have stopped him as well

          You can’t have it both ways. It’s either he would or would not have. I think recent history has shown the exact opposite of what you claim Putin indicated. Nobody has invaded a NATO country because it works. That’s why the reaction from Finland and Sweden to this Russian invasion was to join NATO after so many years of not being a part of it even bordering the USSR. They know Putin won’t dare attack a member of that alliance. Clearly neutrality did not work when it came to Ukraine. Nor did appeasement, we’re paying for not being tougher in 2016 but the time between then and 2022 was spent strengthening Ukraine’s military precisely to stop the next occurrence of a Russian attack.

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        I agree, and you get my upvote for a true statement.

        But also, I’m not convinced there would be more “plight” in a Russia win. I believe the opposite, in fact. I believe there would be less “plight” and suffering.

        There is very much “plight” in their protracted war over there.

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          So if a group of guys came to your neighbors house and told the family that they’re going to move into it with them, you wouldn’t be for removing them, even if that meant a fight? It would be better to just let them move in because that way no one gets hurt?

          And if they successfully move into your neighbor’s house, they might have eyes on your house next.

          Russia is trying to take over Ukraine, a sovereign country, by force, and other countries are trying to help Ukraine fight Russia. Yes, people on both sides are dying. Ukrainians apparently overwhelmingly believe it’s worth the fight.

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          Absolutely not true for many reasons. One of them being that if they let Russia keep what they occupied, it will give Russia time to regroup and keep going.

          Number 2, they’re torturing and killing those who don’t support the Russian regime.

          So yea, while “stopping the bloodshed” sounds good in theory (That’s why Trump keeps repeating it), it will only embolden Putin and give him time to strengthen his forces and attack again later. This is appeasement and it doesn’t work.

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            That would be after the low hanging fruit of Moldova. Neighbors Ukraine, Constitutionally neutral, does not admit stationing foreign military troops on its territory, can only be altered by referendum, and not at all during a state of national emergency, martial law or war.

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      You… I don’t even know where to begin. You don’t understand how inflation works or how things on the other side of the world can impact us due to a global economy. You should care if Ukraine wins, because burying our head in the sand and carrying about only the US means we’re left to feel the impact of global events were not engaging in.

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        Lol… you certainly didn’t know where to begin or end. Next time, begin with reading comprehension. The egg example wasn’t correlating inflation with the billions we sent to Ukraine. Money sent to Ukraine isnt directly affecting inflation. Rather, we have our own very important financial issue here in that states, sending billions abroad shouldn’t be a priority over our financial issues here.

        You should care if Ukraine wins, because…

        Ok, maybe this guy knows something.

        burying our head in the sand and carrying about only the US means we’re left to feel the impact of global events were not engaging in.

        Haha. Nvm… Help us, Lord.

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      I’m hoping Ukraine wins because I’m against imperialism and I respect the sovereignty of other nations. Pretty simple if you ask me.