Yet you’re choosing the side of one of the oppressors… why are you choosing the oppressor that does the thing you see in that video? Do you want more of that to happen? Do you think if Hamas desecrates enough corpses the conflict will end? What is your goal?
And this is the problem. You can’t even entertain a good faith discussion about this because as soon as you defend Palestine, you’re an antisemite and have nothing worth saying.
As far as the Israeli/Palestine conflict goes, Hamas are not the oppressors. The numbers of casualties speak for themselves. They can still do terrible things while being oppressed. It’s not an excuse. Fuck the people involved in this horrible crime, but we can’t act like the Israelis are the good guys in the conflict either.
The difference is the imbalance in power. Israel is a state sponsor of an apartheid. They are oppressing an entire nation of people.
It’s monstrous when a small number of terrorists do something awful, if in fact this woman was attacked in this way, but it’s not comparable to terrorism committed at a state level by a government with a modern military machine.
You should learn the difference between apartheid and an occupation. Using the wrong terms doesn’t make your argument carry more weight, it just makes you sound like an idiot.
The difference between a war and the type of fascist barbarity that Hamas is putting on display is that a war has an objective. When the objective is achieved the violence ends. With fascists like Hamas the barbarity is the objective. The kid you see in the video spitting on the corpse is a future recruit for Hamas. The kid learned this level of depraved violence is normal and right. When that kid is old enough to be a “freedom fighter” who in that Palestinian town will dare oppose Hamas knowing that their members have been indoctrinated from a young age to devalue life to this degree?
Israel’s goal is to be safe from Palestinian rocket attacks. The settlement strategy is literally from the Machiavelli’s writing. I don’t agree with it, it’s very medieval kind of thinking. But there is an ultimate goal of peace, albeit by horrible means.
The depravity you see in the video is the goal of Hamas. Maintain genocidal fervor, maintain power.
Israel is an apartheid state, and the mental gymnastics people have to do in order to not acknowledge that they’re a piece of shit would be cute if we weren’t talking about genocide.
I don’t agree with it, it’s very medieval kind of thinking. But there is an ultimate goal of peace, albeit by horrible means.
Clearly, you do.
Secondly, I don’t know how any reasonable person can look at the history of Israel’s apartheid (I’m not going to use the sanitized terms you suggest) and come to the conclusion you’ve reached. The IDF is even shooting news reporters in cold blood to try and hide their actions.
You can go ahead and use words wrong and continue using words wrong and I’ll continue to think you’re an idiot.
Do you have a special word for brutally murdering an innocent woman, stripping down her corpse, parading her dead body through the streets? What word can you come up with that will make this action acceptable?
Look at the video again. These are the guys you’re carrying water for. Do you want these things to continue? Is that why you support these barbarians? Why can’t you simply condemn Hamas as the evil fascist monsters they are?
Calling someone an idiot just because the other doesn’t share the same view is admirable. Keep up the good work mate, keep thinking you are morally and intellectually superior just because you have been brainwashed.
Oh and by the way I think the general community somehow disagrees with your views. And keep in mind that this community is mostly concentrated in the West, making your opinion even less popular.
Does beating a woman to death and parading her body through the streets qualify as oppressing another person?
If you’re on the side of Hamas regime, you’re on the side of the oppressor, not the oppressed.
You can both be oppressed and opress others.
Hurting people hurt people.
Shit rolls downhill.
All i am trying to say is that, sadly, being the opressed doesn’t mean you cant be an oppressor. The world is complex…
Yet you’re choosing the side of one of the oppressors… why are you choosing the oppressor that does the thing you see in that video? Do you want more of that to happen? Do you think if Hamas desecrates enough corpses the conflict will end? What is your goal?
He’s quite clearly not picking a side, he’s just acknowledging nuance
And this is the problem. You can’t even entertain a good faith discussion about this because as soon as you defend Palestine, you’re an antisemite and have nothing worth saying.
As far as the Israeli/Palestine conflict goes, Hamas are not the oppressors. The numbers of casualties speak for themselves. They can still do terrible things while being oppressed. It’s not an excuse. Fuck the people involved in this horrible crime, but we can’t act like the Israelis are the good guys in the conflict either.
If it’s true, yes.
The difference is the imbalance in power. Israel is a state sponsor of an apartheid. They are oppressing an entire nation of people.
It’s monstrous when a small number of terrorists do something awful, if in fact this woman was attacked in this way, but it’s not comparable to terrorism committed at a state level by a government with a modern military machine.
You should learn the difference between apartheid and an occupation. Using the wrong terms doesn’t make your argument carry more weight, it just makes you sound like an idiot.
The difference between a war and the type of fascist barbarity that Hamas is putting on display is that a war has an objective. When the objective is achieved the violence ends. With fascists like Hamas the barbarity is the objective. The kid you see in the video spitting on the corpse is a future recruit for Hamas. The kid learned this level of depraved violence is normal and right. When that kid is old enough to be a “freedom fighter” who in that Palestinian town will dare oppose Hamas knowing that their members have been indoctrinated from a young age to devalue life to this degree?
Israel’s goal is to be safe from Palestinian rocket attacks. The settlement strategy is literally from the Machiavelli’s writing. I don’t agree with it, it’s very medieval kind of thinking. But there is an ultimate goal of peace, albeit by horrible means.
The depravity you see in the video is the goal of Hamas. Maintain genocidal fervor, maintain power.
Israel is an apartheid state, and the mental gymnastics people have to do in order to not acknowledge that they’re a piece of shit would be cute if we weren’t talking about genocide.
Clearly, you do.
Secondly, I don’t know how any reasonable person can look at the history of Israel’s apartheid (I’m not going to use the sanitized terms you suggest) and come to the conclusion you’ve reached. The IDF is even shooting news reporters in cold blood to try and hide their actions.
The history simply doesn’t support it.
You can go ahead and use words wrong and continue using words wrong and I’ll continue to think you’re an idiot.
Do you have a special word for brutally murdering an innocent woman, stripping down her corpse, parading her dead body through the streets? What word can you come up with that will make this action acceptable?
Look at the video again. These are the guys you’re carrying water for. Do you want these things to continue? Is that why you support these barbarians? Why can’t you simply condemn Hamas as the evil fascist monsters they are?
Yet IDF murdering children who thrrew rocks at them, regularly, is A-OK. Fuck that.
And clearly labeled medics and press. Literal war crimes.
I appreciate your perspective.
Calling someone an idiot just because the other doesn’t share the same view is admirable. Keep up the good work mate, keep thinking you are morally and intellectually superior just because you have been brainwashed.
Oh and by the way I think the general community somehow disagrees with your views. And keep in mind that this community is mostly concentrated in the West, making your opinion even less popular.
Maybe a bit of self reflection could do you good!