• tryptaminev 🇵🇸 🇺🇦 🇪🇺@feddit.de
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    10 months ago

    Israel is not fighting against Hamas. Israel is fighting against all Palestinians, of which only a tiny fraction is Hamas. Well or rather they are fightinf against Hamas, but they are slaughtering the other Palestinians.

    Israel is past the need to defend itself. Now they are taking the opportunity to commit genocide and displace the Palestinians from Gaza.

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        10 months ago

        I propose Israel stop the weapons embargo on Gaza, allowing Gazans to arm themselves. The embargo obviously doesn’t work for keeping weapons from Hamas. It does, however, make the honest people of Gaza totally powerless to resist their dictators.

      • المنطقة عكف عفريت@lemmy.worldOP
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        10 months ago

        What do you propose Israel do about all of the missiles being fired by Hamas?

        Don’t they already have the Iron Dome? That btw lets missiles drop on “poor Palestinian areas” because their systems categorize them as “empty lands”?

        What do you suggest they do? Aside from killing every man, woman and child, of course?

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          10 months ago

          I suggest Israel root out Hamas. Then hold elections to create a Palestinian government that’s willing to negotiate with Israel for their own state

          The iron dome also isn’t perfect and doesn’t change the intent. If I make my house bullet proof and you shoot it every day in the hopes of killing me at some point I have the right to get rid of you by some method surely?

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            10 months ago

            To do “self defence”, all Israel had to do was guard its borders and have some diplomatic solution that didn’t completely dehumanize Palestinians, maybe policies that listen to expert opinions on these subjects and how this is causing extremism to double. They didn’t need to invade “in self defence”.

            If I make my house bullet proof and you shoot it every day in the hopes of killing me at some point I have the right to get rid of you by some method surely?

            Funny how that works both ways.

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              10 months ago

              Alright so from your perspective it seems you expect Israel to do all the heavy lifting here. Just ignore the attacks and hope Hamas is willing to negotiate one day? Even though they make it clear they want to remove Israel

              What should the Palestinians/Hamas be doing? Continuing with their current course of action until Israel decides to do something different?

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                  10 months ago

                  So what exactly does that entail? Remove all troops, accept continued missile attacks and pray that Hamas eventually gets sick of it and negotiates?

                  I don’t think you’re really considering the actions and goals of Hamas here. Is anything they do justified as long as they don’t have their own state away from Israel?