(yes, I also see that it says Chinease)

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    Anyone who even compares a for profit corportation to the world’s largest hostile militaristic dictatorship is an idiot. Both bad, but on completely different scales.

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      The things the CCP could do with political blackmail gathered from tiktok would make even Zuck blush.

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      I doythink those are as different as you say. Through the Patriot Act, american corporate spying is US spying.

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        Okay but one wants to efficiently sell me worthless trash and the other would happily kill me and take my property given an opportunity, so…

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          The US has actively used that kind of info to extrajudically kill people, we know that for sure. We don’t know if China actually did that (they probably did).

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            That’s fair but I feel like it’s not in Google’s best interests to collect your photos library, clipboard, message history, contacts info, SSN, banking details, etc and then sell all of it to China for cheap. The extent of Data Collection, and the very obvious malicious intent of it, embedded in TikTok sets it worlds apart.

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      While they’re at completely different scales, plus will go to much different lengths to abuse what they find out, It comes down to personal peril. I know exactly how Google will use that surveillance data to my detriment and that they’ll openly sell it to more nefarious entities, however I fail to see how the Chinese government would ever have an interest in my data or in selling it.

      I don’t use Tik Tok or Huawei, but that’s for other reasons

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      US looks very militaristic to me. It has a very broken democracy, and a history of supporting/causing brutal dictatorships.

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        The USA hasn’t taken territory since 1946.

        The major reason for the USA being so broken is due to deregulation and corporate greed. Which is a little different in nuance to Authoritarian China.

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            Compared to the dictatorship who are in the process of seizing land and committing genocides on their (according to them) own peoples, yes the USA are fucking saints. See this is my exact problem, two bad things are not equivalent but so many people fail to grasp that.

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          The US doesn’t try. It just bombs the fuck out of anyone worth exploiting production of anything any private exploitator willing to play “business” there wants.

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        The control the Chinese gov has over tiktok is on a different scale compared to Google and the US

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            How many McDonald’s are there compared to general tso’s chicken?

            Both comparisons are irrelevant. It is about how much control and access China/US have over tiktok/Google and the user data and algorithms.

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      Thank you, this is my viewpoint exactly. We are exploited by both but one is after money, the other is a threat.

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          Usually they can’t, but they can blackmail. Usually only if you’re really really deep in anti Pooh territory though. Pooh is vindictive and thin skinned like our spray tan guy. Spray tan could for example, work with Pooh to surveil and jail dissenters. It’s not that China is a threat to an individual American or other foreigner in a Western country per se, but as long as they could potentially leverage your data against you they do have a little threat. For the record Pooh and spray tan should be sent to an island together to… Oh shit nvm usually rich people and islands aren’t a good thing. 😂

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          That’s like saying that Putin couldn’t hurt anyone outside of Russia yet he’s had multiple people killed in foreign countries.