• Linkerbaan@lemmy.worldOP
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      10 months ago

      Using a torture camp as an attraction park for civilians is some shit I thought I would only read in fiction books like Hunger Games.

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        10 months ago

        As far as I am aware, while regular civilians in Germany aided the Nazis in rounding up Jews, they didn’t typically participate in the concentration camps.

        This is quite different indeed.

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        10 months ago

        Me too. But the reason we do is only circumstantial. Any and all humans are capable of such actions under the right circumstances.

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        10 months ago

        My point is the irony of a culture who bases their entire national identity on previous victimhood and centuries of oppression is now frolicking in the blood and screams of others.

        Very, very human, and awful.

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          10 months ago

          Yeah well when you hold fast to a religion that encourages mindless obedience, murder and violence, you reap what you sow. Or any other deadly fantasy.

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                  10 months ago

                  I’d love to get the long version, because from what I’ve gathered so far Buddhism doesn’t appear to be built around aggregation and (ab)use of power.
                  I may be completely off though and would like to have additional information!

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                    10 months ago

                    This is what I originally wrote:

                    The Buddhist monk Pol Pot would like a word. Buddhism practised in the west vs. Southeast Asia are very different.

                    I asked a Buddhist man the method he used to kill dogs for meat. ‘You have to make them angry and scared, then you get their strength.’ So, torture them first. The usual method was drowning, after torture. That is a common sentiment.

                    I was just talking about this a few days ago with an old friend, we both worked there together years ago. His description was that Buddhists in general were slightly less Buddhist than the Pope.

                    There are devout Buddhists of course, just like there are devout Christians, or whatever. Who may be decent people, being devout is certainly no guarantee.

                    The majority of religious people are hypocritical fucks who take what they want to reinforce their worldview, oppress others, and leave the rest as irrelevant. Include Buddhists in that group, they don’t get a pass because of what Buddha said (and they don’t follow) anymore than Christians or anyone else.

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                10 months ago

                Contemporary example: Buddhist Inspired Genocide

                And you can also check Wikipedia:

                Buddhist scripture condemns violence in every form. Ahimsa, a term meaning “not to injure”, is a primary virtue in Buddhism. However, Buddhists have historically used scriptures to justify violence or form exceptions to commit violence for various reasons.

                There may be individuals whose personal interpretation of Buddhism leads them to avoid violence, but organized religion as a whole is a social system where a hierarchy struggles to maintain ideological control over their followers on the basis of faith, which is a magnificent tool for anyone who wants to get others to justify heinous crimes against their out-group, and is routinely used that way in all major religions.

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                  10 months ago

                  Thank you for the additional info.
                  I think I just wanted to believe there’s at least one religion that leads to good deeds and good deeds only. You may call me naive.

          • SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works
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            10 months ago

            Perhaps not every religion, but every religion that has passed the historical test of getting and maintaining millions of followers through history.