Or they just posted a lunch picture to their social media and somebody grabbed it and made a meme out of it. Your body doesn’t determine what intention you have when you post pictures
If you had lunch with a friend, took a picture, and posted it online, would it have been to “show off”? Ask yourself why you’re making that assumption about the subjects of this photo.
I hear you. I just start to think about how expensive bras are at that size. They are expensive enough as it is and I am thankful I can stick to something comfy from TomboyX.
I really wish we didn’t exploit people on the Internet quite so much. Do these girls even know or approve of their pictures being posted?
How exactly am I body shaming? You can decide whichever one you personally find more attractive, we all can, but these are just two women with breasts at lunch. Probably posted it to Facebook/IG, and now there are people using a meme to compare their bodies, neither one of them is better or worse, but the meme is inviting us to judge, so they are both being body shamed for not having the others. Objectified would’ve been a clearer word choice, but we can use whatever word you feel fits best so long as we agree this concept is gross.
Totally ignoring the majority of women are mocked for having big or little breasts at many points in their life. If you are going to play dumb about it then I can’t help you, but you should really talk to any woman you have in your life and let them explain it to ya. I’m not gonna walk you through an extremely common experience.
Assigning big = better and small = worse is indeed a judgement.
I think some people would argue that smaller growth = better since economies do better given slow change rather than rapid change, as rapid change might lead to rebounds.
By even recognizing traits that seem similar across humans, we’re isolating those parts of them while ignoring the richness of their being. It is objectification.
But objectification is only detrimental when we assign judgements to what we compare. I’m not a woman so I haven’t experienced the turmoil in those comparing breasts or other factors that men desire, but I am taller than average so I get the other end of the stick in how men are judged based on their height - often by women.
Being short or tall has nothing to do with your intrinsic value as a human being, but there is extrinsic value created by those outside of us. I agree in that we should be prioritizing the former instead of the latter in society, which is why posts like this are problematic.
How is this bodyshaming? Its just natural that some people have bigger breasts than other people. There are also meme formats where one of them is taller or something so is that also bodyshaming or what?
Her breasts are HERS. Not yours or anyone else viewing her. She is not advertising! She is wearing whatever clothes feel comfortable to her and at no point does that become something she should be attacked or over.
Pick a lane. Is everything misogyny or am I a lone tyrant?
“gender is a thought crime”, hilarious.
That was fallaciously mocking someone, but ya know. Go off. Be mad.
guys noticing pushup bras which are designed to drive attention
Nope. 100% bullshit. Clothes are for the person wearing them, nothing about this has to do with driving attention. And it’s wildly arrogant to assume otherwise. You know that tons of women wear sexy underwear without showing anyone right? That’s because its for THEM, and not for any one else.
“Clothes are for the person wearing them, nothing about this has to do with driving attention.”
I agree here, but there are plenty of women who wear specific clothes to garner attention. That, too, is their perogative. At the end of the day the attention is still for them, not the person giving the attention, so it still ties back to your initial point I guess!
Wrong. Comedic license: you can joke about ANYTHING, as long as the joke is funnier than the thing is fucked up to joke about. Things you don’t seem to understand: who decides if your joke is funny? The audience, aka literally anyone/everyone but the joke teller. How do I know if my joke is deemed funny? If a large portion of the audience, preferably over 50%, deem it so.
How are they being body shamed? I don’t see anybody saying one is better than the other. Some people like bigger boobs, some people like smaller boobs so there isn’t a correct answer. I can see them being objectified sure, but I wouldn’t call it body shaming.
How is this being objectified though? If one is a brunette and the other is blonde is an observation. It’s not saying they are only an object. It’s just a description of an attribute.
We’re not talking about hair colour though, this is obviously reducing a pic of some friends to “haha big booba small booba”. That’s kind of textbook objectification.
Way to take my point, not listen, and completely make it personal. It’s exactly what I meant. That it’s just a difference you can see. That’s the same as the color of their shirts. It’s obvious if you have eyes. Pointing out the contrast is the root of the joke and can work just because it is so obvious. That is the only point I am making.
I debated which term to use and decided on body shaming because it was a touch vague. Bottom line is that these two women were just at lunch and now people are reducing it to just their breasts. Objectified would’ve probably been a clearer word choice, but I think since the meme is making a comparison between the two its inherently body shaming. Regardless of whichever one you personally think is more attractive.
Thank you. I almost typed out a similar comment, but deleted it.
Although this meme is just supposed to be “thing, bigger thing” maybe half the time I see it it’s someone trying to say “thing, objectively better thing” and it just feels really gross. I hate most memes that are just stolen social media posts of people living their lives honestly.
Honestly really sad that some people seem to be more upset by you writing “body shamed” instead of “objectified” than they are about the objectification happening in the OP
I feel bad for these women who just took a picture at lunch, and now are being body shamed.
Like, yeah, it’s a meme. I know I’m a buzz kill and will get downvoted. But this still sucks.
Yeah it does not feel right to push sexist beliefs onto people who just took a photo
Comments like this are why I like Lemmy, y’all are good people.
It’s a good people thing to make problems where none exist?
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Or they just posted a lunch picture to their social media and somebody grabbed it and made a meme out of it. Your body doesn’t determine what intention you have when you post pictures
Don’t put a picture of yourself on social media. Also don’t make fun of how a person looks. Everyone sucks as far as I can tell.
Oh for god’s sake. We women aren’t thinking about our chests 24/7. Sometimes we just want to share a pic we took with a friend.
If you had lunch with a friend, took a picture, and posted it online, would it have been to “show off”? Ask yourself why you’re making that assumption about the subjects of this photo.
I hear you. I just start to think about how expensive bras are at that size. They are expensive enough as it is and I am thankful I can stick to something comfy from TomboyX.
I really wish we didn’t exploit people on the Internet quite so much. Do these girls even know or approve of their pictures being posted?
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What? No one here is body shaming. I mean maybe you are, but no one else is
How exactly am I body shaming? You can decide whichever one you personally find more attractive, we all can, but these are just two women with breasts at lunch. Probably posted it to Facebook/IG, and now there are people using a meme to compare their bodies, neither one of them is better or worse, but the meme is inviting us to judge, so they are both being body shamed for not having the others. Objectified would’ve been a clearer word choice, but we can use whatever word you feel fits best so long as we agree this concept is gross.
The meme is inviting us to see: BIG and LITTLE.
If that’s a basis of judgment for you, own it as your own thing instead of trying to put that on others.
Totally ignoring the majority of women are mocked for having big or little breasts at many points in their life. If you are going to play dumb about it then I can’t help you, but you should really talk to any woman you have in your life and let them explain it to ya. I’m not gonna walk you through an extremely common experience.
Assigning big = better and small = worse is indeed a judgement.
I think some people would argue that smaller growth = better since economies do better given slow change rather than rapid change, as rapid change might lead to rebounds.
By even recognizing traits that seem similar across humans, we’re isolating those parts of them while ignoring the richness of their being. It is objectification.
But objectification is only detrimental when we assign judgements to what we compare. I’m not a woman so I haven’t experienced the turmoil in those comparing breasts or other factors that men desire, but I am taller than average so I get the other end of the stick in how men are judged based on their height - often by women.
Being short or tall has nothing to do with your intrinsic value as a human being, but there is extrinsic value created by those outside of us. I agree in that we should be prioritizing the former instead of the latter in society, which is why posts like this are problematic.
How is this bodyshaming? Its just natural that some people have bigger breasts than other people. There are also meme formats where one of them is taller or something so is that also bodyshaming or what?
While I agree with the message of the meme, it does kinda suck to use real people’s bodies as the representation
Agreed, this is pretty gross.
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gtfo with that.
Her breasts are HERS. Not yours or anyone else viewing her. She is not advertising! She is wearing whatever clothes feel comfortable to her and at no point does that become something she should be attacked or over.
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No it’s casual misogyny. You need to remove the entire “bras are false advertising” concept from your mind. It’s not funny.
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Pick a lane. Is everything misogyny or am I a lone tyrant?
That was fallaciously mocking someone, but ya know. Go off. Be mad.
Nope. 100% bullshit. Clothes are for the person wearing them, nothing about this has to do with driving attention. And it’s wildly arrogant to assume otherwise. You know that tons of women wear sexy underwear without showing anyone right? That’s because its for THEM, and not for any one else.
You seem great, good talk.
“Clothes are for the person wearing them, nothing about this has to do with driving attention.”
I agree here, but there are plenty of women who wear specific clothes to garner attention. That, too, is their perogative. At the end of the day the attention is still for them, not the person giving the attention, so it still ties back to your initial point I guess!
Don’t take any guff from these swine, MeanEYE. These bullies don’t define you.
Just wanted to let you know you’re not alone here.
“It’s a joke” is not an acceptable defence for being a dickhead. It just makes it a shitty “joke” that only a dickhead would think is funny.
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Wrong. Comedic license: you can joke about ANYTHING, as long as the joke is funnier than the thing is fucked up to joke about. Things you don’t seem to understand: who decides if your joke is funny? The audience, aka literally anyone/everyone but the joke teller. How do I know if my joke is deemed funny? If a large portion of the audience, preferably over 50%, deem it so.
So a joke that less than 50% of people think is funny, isn’t funny?
You collectivists are so twisted in how you see truth.
Yes I agree one should not be a dickhead for no reason. So please stop.
Shamed?
How are they being body shamed? I don’t see anybody saying one is better than the other. Some people like bigger boobs, some people like smaller boobs so there isn’t a correct answer. I can see them being objectified sure, but I wouldn’t call it body shaming.
Ye, objectified is probs what they meant.
How is this being objectified though? If one is a brunette and the other is blonde is an observation. It’s not saying they are only an object. It’s just a description of an attribute.
Pejoratives don’t have to make sense. Don’t take it personally.
We’re not talking about hair colour though, this is obviously reducing a pic of some friends to “haha big booba small booba”. That’s kind of textbook objectification.
Way to take my point, not listen, and completely make it personal. It’s exactly what I meant. That it’s just a difference you can see. That’s the same as the color of their shirts. It’s obvious if you have eyes. Pointing out the contrast is the root of the joke and can work just because it is so obvious. That is the only point I am making.
Yup, honestly I debated on which word to use but objectified would’ve been best.
I debated which term to use and decided on body shaming because it was a touch vague. Bottom line is that these two women were just at lunch and now people are reducing it to just their breasts. Objectified would’ve probably been a clearer word choice, but I think since the meme is making a comparison between the two its inherently body shaming. Regardless of whichever one you personally think is more attractive.
I think exemplified is the most accurate term here.
But it doesn’t have a negative connotation, so it doesn’t fit with what you all are trying to do here.
Surely the meme is in the eyes of the viewer. Who decided this was about breaststroke?
The meme did. Literally the meme is a “joke” about breast size.
The meme says “actual inflation” and “reported inflation”.
Why isn’t this a joke about hair length? What are YOU projecting?
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My point is that the “offensive” part of this meme exists purely in the viewer’s head.
People are being offended by their own thoughts.
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Thank you. I almost typed out a similar comment, but deleted it.
Although this meme is just supposed to be “thing, bigger thing” maybe half the time I see it it’s someone trying to say “thing, objectively better thing” and it just feels really gross. I hate most memes that are just stolen social media posts of people living their lives honestly.
Higher inflation is definitely not objectively better so you can stop worrying about that interpretation.
I’m delighted that I am not alone in this take. :)
Honestly really sad that some people seem to be more upset by you writing “body shamed” instead of “objectified” than they are about the objectification happening in the OP
And this is one of the less problematic memes of this template, there are way worse ones :(