• The Vegan Werewolf@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    Cool Fact: Vegans consume a total of less plants than omnivores. Animals eat plants, so if you eat them, you’re eating an animal plus everything it ate to grow up.

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        10 months ago

        I’d agree if there would ba a “could” in there or something. The reality is that a lot of soy (that humans can digest) is fed to animals…

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            10 months ago

            I am someone who would have not lived though childhood with out the ability to have both the protein and calories I got from eating meat. (I couldn’t do dairy as a child either)

            A soy allergy isn’t a death sentence. Eggs exist, and so do tons and tons of other sources of protein.

            Cannabis seeds, for one, are great source of protein and contain all the essential aminoacids.

            I was unaware of the term “grain finished”, so I looked it up.

            When beef is grain-finished, cattle are free to eat a balanced diet of grain, local feed ingredients, like potato hulls or sugar beets, and hay or forage at the feedyard.

            You’re not seriously suggesting that most cattle enjoy such conditions?

            If you just plain do the math of the area needed for grazing versus the average consumption of beef per capita you can see that most cattle is definitely not just “grain finished”.

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                10 months ago

                Yeah, eating soy with a severe soy allergy can lead to anaphylactix shock, but having a soy allergy doesn’t mean you won’t be able to get protein elsewhere, meaning you just have to not eat soy.

                You can easily die of lactose intolerance as well. Diarrhea is historically in like the top 3 causes of death.

                I assume you mean hemp seeds? Right?

                The plant is called cannabis.

                “Hemp” is for people who don’t understand that “hemp” is a political term and that “hemp seeds” are in fact cannabis seeds and that even the most psychoactive cannabis has no psychoactive alkaloids in the seeds.

                No I don’t think Grain finishing is a good thing

                Not what I asked. I asked if you seriously think most cattle is “grain finished” when literally a vast majority of the world’s cattle is fed solely on feed and never even see grass.

                “Feel free to show me, I’m unable to back up anything I said and I think it’s up to you to disprove me instead of me being able to support the things I’m saying.”

                And you talk about being annoyed by people who don’t know what they’re talking about?

                Which country’s data should we use?

                https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_meat_consumption

                https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/land-use-per-kg-poore

                https://www.statista.com/statistics/269236/grazing-land-worldwide-by-region/

                There’s the data

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                    10 months ago

                    Why the ad hominem attacks?

                    I don’t think you understand what that means.

                    Even when it was for me

                    You’re alive, dummy. Because you don’t eat soy. If you were allergic to oxygen, that argument might apply.

                    Again why the anger?

                    What’s this about anger? You might be projecting. So me noting that hemp is cannabis made you feel stupid, so you feel angry. It’s understandable, dw.

                    Also you completely failed to respond to them not being available to me as a child.

                    “My parents didn’t care about my dietary requirements so that means that it literally didn’t exist”

                    I know what it is call. There is a clear definition between hemp and marijuana. Yes they are both part of the cannabis family but we both know you are not buy marijuana seed at the food co-op as a supplement.

                    “Marijuana” :DD

                    “cannabis family”

                    They’re both the exact same plant; cannabis sativa. “Hemp” just refers to the cannabis that isn’t too strong.

                    From your comment:

                    Just so you know cattle are only grain finished, personally I don’t like the practice. More details in my reply to a different comment. https://lemmy.world/comment/8250179

                    As if no cattle was fed only on feed. And then you have the audacity to pretend to be angry at people who don’t understand agriculture. “Grain finished” means “mostly grass fed” and that just isn’t fucking true, hahahahaahah