It was a time with a lot of “you’re the 10th million visitor to this website, you’re a winner” and “this is how to get a bigger dick” popups, and no adblockers.
People always pine for the “good old days” without realising they’re just remembering (or imagining) things with a huge bias.
“It’d be a weird sort of person who doesn’t willfully ignore reality”
Really?
You can remember good things about the past, but it you willfully ignore the most of what the past was, you’ll get something unrealistic. Like his notion that the internet was better in 1994.
By 1994, the World Wide Web had only existed for five years, HTML was published in 91 and the browser source code for the first web browser for public use in 1993.
You can like things about the past without saying things like “the Internet was better 30 years ago”, because obviously it wasn’t.
Some people like the Model T Ford and be history buffs and whatnot, and that’s perfectly fine. But who of them would say that a Model T is objectively better than a modern car — even a Tesla with all it’s problems? They can like the experience more than driving a regular car, but I’m sure they would never imagine actually traveling with one. It’s just a novelty. Nostalgia.
Your argument isn’t coherent, as you’re attributing a single phenomena to being caused by a willful ignorance and the rose coloured glasses of forgetfulness or absent minded ignorance.
Which is why you’re shifting goal posts to a position you believe is implied but is actually your own contradictory construction, and of your own making.
Anyways I don’t think I’ll get anywhere with you, as you’re liable to such falsifications and implicit strawmanning.
Have fun arguing with positions you’re making up for yourself. Strange hobby, but whatever. It probably keeps you occupied, so who am I to judge.
Have fun arguing with positions you’re making up for yourself.
Oh the irony.
I haven’t laughed at that sort of philosophy larping this hard in ages. “Cringe”, I believe is how the youth refers to the feeling that accompanied my laugh.
What do you find so very incoherent about “the internet was not better in 1994”?
You implied that the person I’m talking to isn’t ignoring reality they know exists, like the average speed of an Internet connection being 14kbit/s in 1994. Of course the internet was worse in 1994, and the “wild west” applied to ads and malware as well.
It’s funny how big words you try using though, after not being able to even spell “gonorrhea” and not having the wits to check how it’s spelled when you write it and doing with “gonerea”, and, have, such weird, punctuation that makes, reading your, text very, weird. :D which makes the logical fallacy larping all the more hilarious via it’s pretentiousness.
Your argument is essentially “people don’t remember bad things”. Mine is “people would prefer to ignore bad memories”, which is why he is “wearing rose coloured glasses” as I’m sure he still understands what the internet actually was like in 1994, and willfully ignores the negatives.
So you actually built yourself personal adblockers in 1994…?
“The internet was better in 1994, and I’m definitely not affected by nostalgia.”
Oh cmon. That’s peak nostalgia with no care to the realities.
The average person wouldn’t last 3 minutes using a 14kbit modem trying to load some text based site which has a few hundred users.
What you’re trying to do is basically the “I was there 3000 years ago” meme.
But I too, was there when it waa written.
And it definitely wasn’t better.
Also you’re on the fediverse complaining about this. The very idea already disproves your “walled garden” argument.
Not to mention the tor boards and telegram groups etc, which are definitely used at least as much as the internet was in 1994. Being on forums back then was probably more niche than having some combat footage and drug selling telegram groups. Groups where people aren’t censored or limited while also having the tech and connection speed to instantly share high definition video from all around the world. Wirelessly.
If you managed to actually film something miraculous in 1994, or irrefutable evidence of some criminal activity by the police for example, where would you share it? You’d have to either make physical copies and hope the pirating network can get it out somewhere, as tv stations won’t be showing your thing. It’s not practical trying to actually share the video online in any shape or form. So you’d end up writing about it, hoping someone would believe your fantastical claims.
Which wouldn’t happen.
No, the internet was not better 30 years ago. Guess you can feel like it’s worse today if you use it like a b451c 81tch
If you want to emulate the 90’s Internet experience, just get a 15" CRT and use it to IRC about Star Trek.
But… wait… that’s essentially what were doing, right now. Fediverse really feels like the IRC of the 2020’s, in a way.
Niche communities, mostly characterised by people who are well versed in tech and love Star Trek. You can make and manage your own part of the community, or even create a server yourself. Except on Fediverse, instances can communicate with each other and we can actually share media, unlike in 1994. Also we all have a constant connection on a device in our pockets.
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For likes, subs, your personal data, or advertising eyeball time?
It was a time with a lot of “you’re the 10th million visitor to this website, you’re a winner” and “this is how to get a bigger dick” popups, and no adblockers.
People always pine for the “good old days” without realising they’re just remembering (or imagining) things with a huge bias.
Unsurprisingly people don’t desire to revisit the bad aspects of the past… It would be a bit odd if someone was like:
I mean, what kind of person are you imagening?
…that’d be a weird kind of person no?
It doesn’t mean they’ve forgotten those things.
“It’d be a weird sort of person who doesn’t willfully ignore reality”
Really?
You can remember good things about the past, but it you willfully ignore the most of what the past was, you’ll get something unrealistic. Like his notion that the internet was better in 1994.
By 1994, the World Wide Web had only existed for five years, HTML was published in 91 and the browser source code for the first web browser for public use in 1993.
You can like things about the past without saying things like “the Internet was better 30 years ago”, because obviously it wasn’t.
Some people like the Model T Ford and be history buffs and whatnot, and that’s perfectly fine. But who of them would say that a Model T is objectively better than a modern car — even a Tesla with all it’s problems? They can like the experience more than driving a regular car, but I’m sure they would never imagine actually traveling with one. It’s just a novelty. Nostalgia.
“No, you weren’t ‘Born in the Wrong Decade’” — Dropout
No, that’s not anything that was actually said, or even the sentiment expressed.
You are, very childish and immature in how you disscuss topics. It must create either great frustration for you, or fill your time.
Good luck with whatever it is you’re seeking.
No, it wasn’t said outloud, it was implied.
Your argument isn’t coherent, as you’re attributing a single phenomena to being caused by a willful ignorance and the rose coloured glasses of forgetfulness or absent minded ignorance.
Which is why you’re shifting goal posts to a position you believe is implied but is actually your own contradictory construction, and of your own making.
Anyways I don’t think I’ll get anywhere with you, as you’re liable to such falsifications and implicit strawmanning.
Have fun arguing with positions you’re making up for yourself. Strange hobby, but whatever. It probably keeps you occupied, so who am I to judge.
Oh the irony.
I haven’t laughed at that sort of philosophy larping this hard in ages. “Cringe”, I believe is how the youth refers to the feeling that accompanied my laugh.
What do you find so very incoherent about “the internet was not better in 1994”?
You implied that the person I’m talking to isn’t ignoring reality they know exists, like the average speed of an Internet connection being 14kbit/s in 1994. Of course the internet was worse in 1994, and the “wild west” applied to ads and malware as well.
It’s funny how big words you try using though, after not being able to even spell “gonorrhea” and not having the wits to check how it’s spelled when you write it and doing with “gonerea”, and, have, such weird, punctuation that makes, reading your, text very, weird. :D which makes the logical fallacy larping all the more hilarious via it’s pretentiousness.
Your argument is essentially “people don’t remember bad things”. Mine is “people would prefer to ignore bad memories”, which is why he is “wearing rose coloured glasses” as I’m sure he still understands what the internet actually was like in 1994, and willfully ignores the negatives.
Yeah if you were a n3wb bitxh and not a 1337 h4x0r like me.
The internet was better 25-30 years ago. No rose glasses needed. It was the wild west, and now we’re just hopping from walled garden to walled garden.
So you actually built yourself personal adblockers in 1994…?
“The internet was better in 1994, and I’m definitely not affected by nostalgia.”
Oh cmon. That’s peak nostalgia with no care to the realities.
The average person wouldn’t last 3 minutes using a 14kbit modem trying to load some text based site which has a few hundred users.
What you’re trying to do is basically the “I was there 3000 years ago” meme.
But I too, was there when it waa written.
And it definitely wasn’t better.
Also you’re on the fediverse complaining about this. The very idea already disproves your “walled garden” argument.
Not to mention the tor boards and telegram groups etc, which are definitely used at least as much as the internet was in 1994. Being on forums back then was probably more niche than having some combat footage and drug selling telegram groups. Groups where people aren’t censored or limited while also having the tech and connection speed to instantly share high definition video from all around the world. Wirelessly.
If you managed to actually film something miraculous in 1994, or irrefutable evidence of some criminal activity by the police for example, where would you share it? You’d have to either make physical copies and hope the pirating network can get it out somewhere, as tv stations won’t be showing your thing. It’s not practical trying to actually share the video online in any shape or form. So you’d end up writing about it, hoping someone would believe your fantastical claims.
Which wouldn’t happen.
No, the internet was not better 30 years ago. Guess you can feel like it’s worse today if you use it like a b451c 81tch
You missed out one of the most overlooked phenomena: low resolution.
That’s always what I find most confronting when using old system. There was a time when 640 x 480 was considered full screen resolution.
Very true.
But CRT also had a different quality, so it didn’t feel as bad as 640 on an LCD
Go post a Xanga about it
“No rose glasses needed” — Man with almost blindingly rose tinted glasses
No, you weren’t ‘Born in the Wrong Decade’ — College Humour
If you want to emulate the 90’s Internet experience, just get a 15" CRT and use it to IRC about Star Trek.
But… wait… that’s essentially what were doing, right now. Fediverse really feels like the IRC of the 2020’s, in a way.
Niche communities, mostly characterised by people who are well versed in tech and love Star Trek. You can make and manage your own part of the community, or even create a server yourself. Except on Fediverse, instances can communicate with each other and we can actually share media, unlike in 1994. Also we all have a constant connection on a device in our pockets.
Dasus slaps NoSpiritAnimal around a bit with a large trout.