• henfredemars@infosec.pub
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    There is a subtle difference for me. It’s hard to describe and I am not a linguist, but it’s like my mouth is a little bit tighter when I’m referring to the possessive their.

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    I hadn’t thought about it before, but on reflection, I do too. And I wouldn’t be surprised if most people do.

    Exaggerated a bit for effect, it would be more or less:

    There = thehr

    Their = thayr

    They’re = thay-r

    “There” is just simple and straightforward with a pure short ‘e’ sound and no particular stresses.

    “Their” has more of a long ‘a’ than a short ‘e’ sound, and a bit of stress on the vowel sound.

    “They’re” also has more of a long ‘a’ sound and it’s pronounced just a fraction longer than in “their”, and there’s a very slight pause between the vowel sound and the ‘r’.

    Huh… learn something new every day.

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    The most bizarre one for me is pronouncing the plural of woman as “wimmin.” Can’t explain it, can’t work around it. It is what it is.

  • AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world
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    I wonder if it’s conditioned by word stress. “There” is usually the object of a phrase (and therefore stressed), while “their” usually modifies a following noun that gets the stress instead.

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    I guess you’re a native speaker. As a foreigner, I can only nod my head. We know.

    They’re/their/there are completely different words. They mean different things and they’re pronounced ever so slightly different, and you’ll get you hand chopped off by a centimeter ruler if you do it wrong.

    “There” is clearly longer than “their”.

    “There” is one tone. “Their” is rising.

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      It differs by region and dialect. The English speaking world has wildly different pronunciations, even within relatively close proximity.

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      Honestly I thought the distinction was just American but you’re right, I think English uses slight intonation for context on nouns/verbs/prefixes but in a way we don’t always write down or care about.

  • southsamurai@sh.itjust.works
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    It’s ther (or thehr, if that makes it easier to hear in your head) theyr and theyur

    Seriously. There is a shorter word when pronounced, their has that sharp I/y sound, but cuts off right after the r. They’re is pronounced with the they-are slurred like all contractions should be.

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    This is why I never understood the confusion with which spelling to use. Just say it in your head.

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    I had a friend from australia who pronounced every vowel of a word distinctly…. so consecutive vowels like ei or ea or ou, somehow she’d enunciate them distinctly.