Mexico’s supreme court has decriminalized abortion across the country, two years after ruling that abortion was not a crime in one northern state.
That earlier ruling had set off a grinding process of decriminalizing abortion state by state. Last week, the central state of Aguascalientes became the 12th state to decriminalize the procedure. Judges in states that still criminalize abortion will have to take account of the top court’s ruling.
The supreme court wrote on X, the platform formerly known as Twitter, that it had decided that “the legal system that criminalized abortion in the Federal Penal Code is unconstitutional, [because] it violates the human rights of women and people with the ability to gestate.”
Just call it twitter. Lonnie doesn’t respect name changes for Trans people. Don’t respect his company’s name change.
Did y’all know that Mexico also has a form of universal healthcare. Pretty soon the flow of illegal immigrants might start going the other way.
Lot of folks hop the border for a bit for the far cheaper dental care down there.
I’ve heard of a lot of people doing this. Pretty bad when driving to an entire other country for dental care is cheaper.
I’ve done this with my wife. It saved us thousands of dollars. And the place was very clean and professional.
I’ve heard horror stories, ironically all from dentists in the US, about dentists in Mexico. But I hear a lot more stories like yours about how it was great, and they managed to save a ton of money.
Pretty sure Palin admitted to her family hopping the border for cheaper healthcare in Canada.
I’m picturing her going to Russia for cheaper healthcare. She did claim she could see Russia from her house.
That was Tina Fey. Palin said that you can see Russia from part of Alaska which is true since there are a couple islands that are like 10 miles away from some Russian islands. Saying that that gives you some sort of foreign policy experience is idiotic though.
I do remember something about that.
Driving? Hell I had a coworker who would fly there from Alaska to get dental work done and even with his week long hotel stay while he recuperated still saved thousands of dollars
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That said, the entire mexican public health service system is absolute shit, so much so that the president acknowleged it as recently a last year.
Actually… No
The facilities could use some work, yeah, red tape and waiting times are terrible, for sure, medicines availability, thanks for this president have been inconsistent as of late, yes
But… thanks to the perks offered in the job, many of the best doctors and surgeons treat there, the ones that treat also in the expensive hospital are treating in the IMSS (name of the service), so yeah, great surgeons for free if you are willing to go through the long bureaucratic process.
I’ve indeed heard frequently that the best practitioners are found in the IMSS, although in my own experience, whether you have a good experience with the medical professionals and procedures is basically a coin toss, unless you have connections and are able to ask for someone in particular, or personally know one of the practitioners.
so much so that the president acknowleged it
Acknowledging it is the first step to improving it. We have Republicans who have the gall to claim that we have the best healthcare in the world.
And justifying it with “people fly from all over to get US health care!”
Translation: “wealthy foreigners who contribute nothing to the US can jump the queue on US citizens who do not have the means to fly to other countries for reasonably priced treatment”.
It’s more if the same old classs war also waged by the right wing elitists
Completely agree. The fact they’re restructuring and allocating funds at least seems to suggest that they’re taking it seriously, and even if it’s baby steps, it’s something
There is already a good amount of medical tourism to Mexico from the US.
Like how Utahans were buying insulin from Mexico because it was something like 1/100 the price.
Given how the population of Utah votes that makes them hypocritical
Hah, boomers being hypocritical? They don’t even know the meaning of the word!
Seems like big government overreach. Next thing you know they’ll be forcing everybody to have an abortion. That’s probably why so many people are fleeing that country to come here where we have the freedom to let states decide.
How very authoritarian of you, shrew…
Why would a state - any state - have anything to do with letting a woman control her body?
Because not letting the state choose means the federal government is telling the state what to do and that’s big government overreach
There is a world outside the US, as they say… Regardless, why would a federal government enforce the control of someone’s body? There are in general 2 people involved in this, and they should be the only ones responsible for this type of decisions. Not a state, not feds.
This is a parody account, I take it? Poe’s Law strikes again.
Pretty crazy. Mexico has traditionally been VERY catholic. The fact that it has become more progressive than the US on women’s rights really speaks volumes about how terrible the US has become.
I suspect a LOT of abortions happening down in the west texas town of el paso.
It seems even the pope is more progressive than American right now.
Legitimately wild for the Pope to point blank call the US regressive.
Not out of hypocrisy (though, yeah - solidarity with survivors and the colonised) - but because he was actually really justified in what he said to reach that.
Wild. Absolutely wild. The US is so comically bad faith a society even the pope can eloquate why it’s awful.
It boggles my minds that in the USA the catholics are considered the reasonable christians.
The pope doesn’t do shit agains his organisations centuries long paedophilia problem.
Not even the US is that bad.
The sbc has a vastly worse pedophilia problem, has for decades, but they can cover it up well because they drive the girls to suicide because nobody would ever believe a good man like their daddy touched them there.
You don’t have to literally be a pedophile to be truly truly terrible, there’s lots of ways to be that.
That is to say, that does not excuse anyone. “At least we didn’t fuck children” is not a defense or an excuse. The deeper right wing in the US still utter scum that needs to be shown the door and then have a fence built after them (and make them pay for it!) to make sure they don’t come back. Independent of whether the vatican state tried to cover up the church’s massive and systemic pedophilia.
Pretty crazy. Mexico has traditionally been VERY catholic. The fact that it has become more progressive than the US on women’s rights really speaks volumes about how terrible the US has become.
In some ways it might be about sending a clear signal that they arent interested in following the political or cultural leadership of the US.
Fuck. You mean trump actually made [North] America great again?
Mexico is finally gonna pay for the wall. The wall to keep fleeing Americans out of Mexico.
Now we just need a wall on Kentucky’s border with Tennessee.
How many Ds in those chess? We may never know…
How many Ds in Vs is the question
Nonono, in SPITE of! 😆
Mexico’s constitution always allowed for abortions in cases of rape or danger to the mother or fetus.
They also legalized same sex marriage a while ago. Yes they are religious but they are not “bible belt fundamentalists”… there is also universal healthcare. Did you know several American doctors go study there and just come back to pass the exams? Mexico had it’s problems but it’s not as bad as they make it seem here. Most immigrants that come here are at the bottom of the barrel of the economical scale.
It has been bred into Americans that every other country sucks but theirs. It’s honestly pretty dystopian to think about.
It’s not all Americans, it’s mostly trash Americans who have nothing else to be proud of except having fallen out of the hole of someone who also happened to be born here.
Catholics might be against abortion, but they are no where near as vocal as some other Christian sects in the US.
Also the Catholic church believed abortions were fine until ~5 months for a long time.
That’s absolutely not true, it was just viewed as a sexual sin before. The catholic church has been against abortion since the 1500s, arguably you could even say it goes back to the early 600s when they tried to find ways to distance themselves from pagans. It wasn’t until the late 1960s when public opinion changed about it being a sin against taking life, then I believe in the 70s the Pope made a public statement, which made it canonical.
As a random side note, St. Thomas of Aquinas take on fetal status was kind of interesting. He viewed a fetus as having 3 states or “souls”; a vegetative soul, an animal soul, and finally a rational soul once the body was completely developed.
" In 1591 the new Pope Gregory XIV reversed the decision, declaring abortion to only be homicide if it took place after ensoulment, which he determined took place 166 days into a pregnancy, or well over halfway through the second trimester. This decision lasted for 278 years until Pope Pius IX reversed the decision yet again in 1869 and made abortion after conception a sin that automatically excommunicated those involved in its procurement from the Catholic Church."
166 days would be over 5 months.
From at least 1500s on it was never “fine” it has always been a sexual sin, that can lead to excommunication from the church. How that works in practice is extremely regional. Even prior to the 1500s it was still an excommunicable offense in most areas, there just isn’t documented policy that I know of.
I also love how whatever quote that is from is using the word “trimester” in relation to something from 1591 when the US Supreme Court coined the term centuries later.
They use trimester to make it meaningful to modern readers, not to imply the rule used that language originally. Like if you were to say “a cubit, or about a foot and a half.”
Well, most Americans are progressive on the issues, including abortion, but due to absurd things like the Electoral College, and the way our power is distributed through states and the way in which rural areas have much more influence than they should, conservatives are given way too much power in relation to their numbers.
But without that, the majority would be tyrants!
But… But democracy. And the land of the free! Say it ain’t so…
Oh please, if we didn’t have the electoral college the south wouldn’t be able to serve as the moral compass of the country and couldn’t guide us away from such evils as slavery and racism.
did you fall in love with a Mexican girl?
You ladies ever been to Mexico?
“you boys like MexICOO?! Whooooooo!”
Does burn out donut, in cop car
Now we’re gonna pay for the wall to keep us in!
That’s quite the Uno reverse they pulled. Makes sense they’d be great at Uno.
Reverse psychology!
The technical term is ‘Anti-Fascist Protection Rampart’.
Wow, Mexican women have more rights than American women. Plus they also have universal healthcare.
The land of the free.
Freedom isn’t free, it costs folks like you and me…
Buck O five
Unfortunately that healthcare is shitty and way over capacity. But still, at least we have something we can improve, instead of just nothing at all.
Can you describe that? I feel like everyone says that about Canada, Europe, etc. But when I try to nail down what they are afraid of, they are like, “if I need a knee surgery I want it NOW! That could take months in Canada!”
Is it like that, or are there like actual life threatening problems being unaddressed?
Some of the most recent examples: recently there has been a critical shortage of psychiatric medicines. Lots of people didn’t have access to their antidepressants, antipsychotics, and lots of other medicines you can’t skip without disastrous effects. While I don’t use public health care, I still had trouble finding some of my prescriptions. The equipment and buildings are in disrepair, because of lack of funding and corruption. This year there was a scandal because a girl died crushed by a elevator in a clinic. Then they found lots of corruption with the company that installed the elevators. Some weird things have happened, for example, a woman went for abdominal pain and when she woke up, the doctors had amputated both of her legs. Also, it’s common that women deliver their babies outside the hospital because it is over capacity. Etc, etc…
Jesus
…people with the ability to gestate.
Got that 1-2 punch of abortion progress and inclusive language.
People that can’t gestate rarely need abortions.
…rarely.
Well there are some days I’d like to abort my neighbor.
If that doesn’t work, retry and eventually ignore.
So far that record is 1/0 for can’t gestate/ got abortion
Something to do with things that mostly come out at night
… mostly.
so… women?
traaaaaaaaaannnnnnns
Edit: shit, I thought this was the other comment about Texas towns arresting people trying to get abortions just as they were driving through.
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Texas should start dusting off their pride flags if they are discouraging men and women from having sex, lmao.
(Not how sexuality works, of course, but it makes me chuckle at the amazing irony of the situation, particularly in light of conspiracy theories like the great replacement and all that nonsense.)
Ah.
So white ladies are going to start fleeing across the border to get abortions that they can’t get in the States.
Conservatives really ARE trying to bring us back to the 1950s, aren’t they?
Let them bring back the 1950s tax rate first
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How is Europe back to 1920s?
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At least in Czechia we do no have (or about to have) a psychopath president. So we should be okay for the next 3 years at least.
It’s a nice change after 20 years of misery. I still haven’t gotten used to it.
I think that depends on your definition on Nationalism and far right movements. I personally wouldnt say we are back in the 1920s, but I guess we all have different opinions
Hrm, I would say you’re overstating things, at least in comparison to the very real issues mentioned here that pertain to the US.
Don’t get me wrong, the evolution of politics in countries such as France, Germany, Poland and so on is more than just worrying, it’s downright alarming.
But even in places where the right wing has managed to achieve political power, they have not managed to effect much regressive political change yet. That is to say, the US situation shows what will happen in the EU if this slide continues. And sure, it could be worse if “parties” (I dread to call people who want to abolish the current democracy a political party, tbh) like the AfD attain power, but again that hasn’t happened yet, unlike some clearly xenophobic and active nazi-sympathizers in the US, or people like Santis or MTG.
Both are shit, but compared to the deeper red states in the US and the truly crazy places, most countries in Europe are a massive improvement, even with all their own problems.
I mean, that’s kind of their whole shtick lol
When God closes a door, he opens a window.
It’d be fun to keep a tracker of how many conservatives clutch their pearls with this decision and then go vacation in Mexico on the beach. Remember, your taxes being used for abortions is evil, but willingly spending your money in Mexico and paying for abortions there is a-okay!
Lmao while you’re at it, maybe Mexico is playing 4D chess and abortions become a source of income as a tourist service
#/s
Meanwhile in America red state boarder towns (boarder to blue or another country.) are making laws to stop every women traveling towards an abortion state.
https://abc13.com/texas-abortion-law-highways-new-battleground-in-care-what-is-the/13740276/
That’s right, straight up Handmaid’s Tale shit!
“Under his eye.”
How would they even know?
The article says:
Critics of the new strategy say it’s not constitutional or enforceable and is only meant to create fear and confusion.
Makes sense. Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt is their modus operandi.
Would love if the federal govt just removes roads and highway funding to states that allow or do not stop this from occurring. The federal interstate program should be just that.
I’m aware of the recent developments in that regard, jfc the whole thing is so fucked up. That and the human trafficking of immigrants to other states. What the fuck is wrong with those states?
God, I’m so glad I moved out of a shithole state before things went completely off the rails.
At some point, I’m sure people will get tired of constant butthole inspections in these states and will go back to being chill and telling their lazy-ass politicians to focus on stuff that actually matters, instead of whatever distraction this is.
That isn’t a very good article.
This one is much better: https://www.texastribune.org/2023/09/01/texas-cities-abortion-trafficking/
… wrote on X, the platform formerly known as Twitter,
It’s amazing how many times online and on TV I hear people phrase things just like this.
No one is just calling “X”, X.
Xitter.
This is great, considering in Chinese Xi sounds like shi
Precisely correct. Not sure Elmo really thought it through.
It’s like when Prince became “the artist formerly known as Prince”…
“The artist formerly known as Twitter”
That was actually a smart move to diffuse his contracts with Warner
In that case it’s because he chose an unpronounceable symbol as his name. X is just stupid.
I’ve been interpreting it like “the artist formerly known as Prince”
And they never ever should
All the ignorant [American] ass wipes that bemoan and slander Mexico: They’re more progressive than the USA. I know that scares the republican snowflakes. I’m glad women’s rights matter more in some areas. It should have always been about all human rights, but I’ll stop being nieve now.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
The supreme court wrote on X, the platform formerly known as Twitter, that it had decided that “the legal system that criminalized abortion in the Federal Penal Code is unconstitutional, [because] it violates the human rights of women and people with the ability to gestate.”
The court’s sweeping decision on Wednesday comes amid a trend in Latin America of loosening restrictions on abortion, even as access has been limited in parts of the United States.
GIRE, a reproductive rights organization based in Mexico City, said the court decided that the portion of the federal penal code that criminalized abortion no longer has any effect.
Across Latin America, countries have made moves to lift abortion restrictions in recent years, often referred to as a “green wave”.
After decades of work by feminist activists across the region, the wave picked up speed in Argentina, which in 2020 legalized the procedure.
Many organizers worry, however, that the lifting of restrictions may not translate to expanded access in highly conservative and religious countries.
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