Edit: Looks like you can opt-out of that “new look and feel” pretty easily under the appearance settings but still, whats with putting rounded corners everywhere?
Edit 2: “Explore the web with a softer, more friendly aesthetic featuring rounded corners […] Designed to complement your operating system, whether on Windows 11, MacOS, or Linux.” The fuck does that mean? Windows 11 fair enough but most Linux distros don’t look like that at all.
Designed to complement your operating system, whether on Windows 11, MacOS, or Linux.”
Who the FUCK uses Edge on Linux??
Used it for a while. One very nice feature is that when you use multiple profiles, you can specify in which of those external links open in. Every other browser opens them in the window that last had focus so I regularly have work related links open up in the private profile.
Also the performance was quite nice.
But since they continuously rub new services in my face with new versions, I ditched it again.
Mozilla’s “Multi-Account Containers” extension on Firefox does a much better job at the multiple profiles feature you’ve described.
I miss the tab grouping from Chrome based browsers in Firefox.
And I think tab containers don’t provide the separation I need to properly separate work from private.
You might be better off using a custom Firefox profile for that then. Not too well integrated UI-wise sadly though
That’s essentially how this sub-thread started 😁
You can do that in Chrome too, if you have multiple chrome profiles right clicking on links give you the option to open it in a different profiles window
Yes, but with “external” I meant opening links from other apps like Slack.
Yeah that’s what I mainly used it for. I would right click links on slack and make sure it would open on my work profile or not depending on the context of the link.
Although this could potentially have been when I used the web app rather than the installed app, so i may be misremembering
In the WebApp this would work. Across apps it’s a different story, since they just invoke a system command to open the URL in the associated application. From there it’s in the hands of that application, how to deal with it.
Just installed Edge on Arch after a disastrous Teams call with Firefox and Chromium, figured it was worth trying MS’ browser next time but I’m not holding my breath.
Edge is just Chromium. When they retired IE they switched. It might still work better because it’s the default supposedly built to work with their products so their tweaks should help. But it is Teams and they’ve been doing a lot more updates lately. Did you update to the new version of Teams they’ve been pushing? It’s bad and it’s performance is bad, so that can cause issues.
The Linux app was discontinued last year, I read that we’re supposed to use the PWA now, has it changed?
It’s bad and it’s performance is bad
🔫 Always has been
I use it for work - it allows me to keep things separate.
Use different user accounts. That provides you with very stronger isolation and separation of concerns, with the bonus that you won’t be exposed to their crap.
How about you just let them use whatever works for them?
Is there even a stable version for Linux? Last time I’ve checked it was still in beta
i don’t think i’ve ever used a microsoft product that didn’t feel like it was still in beta
That’s not fair, solitaire didn’t have too many bugs
And MSPaint has always been the perfection of beauty.
There’s a download link for .deb and .rpm on Microsoft’s website, with no disclaimer that it’s beta.
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Only thing I can think of is if you are developing a website or extension and need to make sure there isn’t some subtle browser difference. Though since it uses the same engine as Chrome, that use case should be a lot more niche than it used to be.
Heh reminds me when I was doing web development back in the day and had IE running on Linux. It actually made more sense to test compatibility with IE by running it through wine on Linux than actually doing it on Windows because I could have multiple versions of IE installed at the same time.
I don’t know, but I’m terrified I’ll one day meet them.
I know one person :'(
Me, but because I need chromium for work and refuse to use Chrome. Firefox for everyday browsing.
But… you can just use Chromium on Linux
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Much to the chagrin of a large portion of lemmy users Edge is not actually a bad browser. If you’re using a chromium based browser anyway there’s really nothing worse about edge than the other options. Obviously not talking about Firefox here.
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I chose edge over chrome nowadays. But I’m still a firefox man. The AI help chat thingemejig of edge is also pretty okay.
Exactly. It’s my Chrome browser of choice. I use Firefox virtually all the time, but if I need somethiung that works in the cases where non-chromium does not, I use Edge. It’s a fast, its already installed so no extra fuss, it has the best vertical tab implementation that really should be standard for every single browser.
The vertical tabs are why I keep it around.
im in the same boat edge is pretty fire tho imo compared to chrome at least.
i havent used it in a bit tho coz of firefox but its a fine browser firefox being good doesn’t make edge bad
Would you say you use it in
edge cases?
You get free credits for Dall-e for using edge (or maybe you just need to be signed into a msoft account 🤔)
Also the bing AI chat is pretty good.
Not my daily browser, but those are two reasons.
It got way better in the past few years. I think everybody hates it, because the internet explorer was that slow. So it just stayed in our minds that the Microsoft browser sucked.
No. It sucks because it’s Chromium.
Most people on fedi will complain about there not being enough browser diversity and then immediately start worshipping and putting Firefox on a pedistal and complaining if anyone uses anything else
Show me in this doll where the Arch user hurt you. 😞
Using firefox will create browser diversity
It still sucks, but in a different way.
Edge is really the best browser for Windows users with low end PCs.
pretty much because like IE, when using Windows part of it runs in the background whether you like it or not.
The experience in the enterprise as well as the management of it make sense for any company who are a m365 shop. Native seamless single sign on with corporate identities, along with syncing the browser make it a no brained for me to use for work. For personal stuff though I stick with Firefox.
One browser to actually use and one without anything to test shit on
Got stuff at work (Microsoft services, for the record) that’ll work in Edge or Chrome, but not entirely in Firefox (gee, wonder why)
I mainly use Firefox but have Edge to test website with, can’t really uninstall it anyway.
You can…
Well, I managed to uninstall it fully through Safe Mode and regedit but that made the fingerprint reader stop working. (It’s my sister’s laprop, okay? I use Mint on mine.)
Why not just use Ungoogled Chromium for your tests? It’s the same browser anyway, just without the spyware.
Because your tests might react differently in an environment with spyware. And rounded corners. These are called Edge cases.
LMFAO 💯
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Damnit! Now I’ve oiled my pitchforks for nothing. Ah well… gues i’ll be visiting the political subs again…
Get a load of this guy not oiling his pitchfork regularly any way.
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Oompa loompa doompadideed
We’re honna make fun of some guy down the steeet
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I upvote you to counter at least one downvote because you have an opinion.
I don’t understand what you mean by jank, and uBlock origin is objectively better on Firefox.
https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/uBlock-Origin-works-best-on-Firefox
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Odd, I rarely have any problems and I use a beta version.
No corner. Only Edge.
This made me chuckle more than I’d like to admit.
Yeah there goes my coffee …
Probably to match windows 11 borders
Remember: less viewport and more whitespace = somehow more ergonomic
Gosh I love scrolling through 7 pages just to read two paragraphs!
I mean you can like or dislike it of course but are you really complaining about a viewport 20 square pixels smaller than normal
Yes, that’s what redditor/lemmy users do. None of these people know anything about UX design or the tens of millions of dollars companies pour into user research.
Any minimally decent website already has margin along the viewport edge, at worst you’re shaving off a few pixels from an image that the user probably hasn’t finished scrolling to anyway. There’s no real loss in content with this change.
apart from that it ruins any website’s unique design by forcefully shoving it’s rounded corners into it, or making anything in the corner look odd
Rounded is the new thing? Aren’t YouTube videos also rounded now
It’s not really a new thing but it’s something that there’s seemingly no real reason for other than it looked good to whoever came up with it?
Rounded corners make sense for phones (cause they provide better protection against falls), but I’ll never understand why they would do this to a desktop browser.
better protection against falls
Do they really? I don’t know about other phones but on my Pixel 6 Pro the entire front is pretty much covered with glass so it doesn’t really matter if the OLED has a rounded bezel in front of it or not.
It might protect the actual OLED in case of a drop, though.
Structurally speaking, yes rounded corners are 2 magnitudes better against direct impacts. That’s just physics.
other than it looked good to whoever came up with it?
That’s just objectively wrong. Biologically speaking.
We have pretty much since we are Sapiens preferred rounded everything. Boba and Kiki are a thing.
The oddity (biologically speaking) is finding sharp edges more appealing whee they offer no considerable advantage…
When browsing even the least reactive webpage EVER; you won’t be needing those 32.5 missing pixels.
When browsing even the least reactive webpage EVER; you won’t be needing those 32.5 missing pixels.
You think this is acceptable, until an ad put it’s close button up there and Chrome has already prevented AdBlock.
Big companies don’t make highly visible design decisions like this on a whim… at least most of the time. They probably have research showing that rounded edges are preferred by end users. Maybe less anxiety inducing or something.
Not that new. Apple was doing it in the 1980s. Jobs made the engineers figure out a way to do it, enough though it used extra memory, when they didn’t have much to spare.
Hell, they were doing it way back in the 1930s. TVs had rounded corners all the way into the 90s due to limitations of CRT design. I didn’t start seeing TVs with hard corners until the early 2000s. They didn’t last very long, cause a couple of years later Plasmas and LCDs became a lot more affordable and killed off the CRT market.
Web 2.0.2.0
The real mildlyinfuriating part is that they probably got inspired by Arc, a relatively new browser. They already copied how their window splitting works.
Pretty crappy for MS not to have good designers themselves and then copy (often poorly) what one of the small players is doing.
Have you ever looked at MS’s business plan over their lifetime? This is nothing new.
Rounded edges have been a trend in UX design for a while now. It’s not really a concept that they need to have stolen from anyone else.
The text overlap really gives
As it’s Microsoft, you can be pretty sure the option to turn off the new look and feel will be removed in 6 months
Or half finished and left in there for decades
It could even be both, if you really think about it
Bro I don’t understand why would anyone use chromium? Its fucking shit!
Mozilla can’t listen to it’s users and Apple only makes Safari available on Apple devices
And Chrome listens to their users?
Microsoft is really known for listening to it’s users 🤣🤣🤣
Use Firefox
Guess they’re going for the CRT look? Next up, all pages default to 4:3?
When you close a tab everything shrinks to a tiny square and then blinks out of existence.
If you hold a magnet too close to edge it goes all weird.
“This website looks best on Microsoft Edge at a resolution of 800x600”
You’re joking, but that’s how I unintentionally use the web with Arc Browser. It has rounded corners and an adjustable sidebar of tabs on the right. The resulting viewport is tightly 4:3. Iirc, Edge can also have tabs on the side.
I will write an unpopular statement:
I use Microsoft edge even on Linux because it’s the only browser that has an option to save temporary downloads in /tmp instead of littering /downloads with unwanted trash. I open 100s of PDFs every day and the behavior of every browser to save in downloads without my consent is infuriating. Firefox allowed this but then they really had to copy the behavior of Google chrome. Reverting to the old behavior requires too many hacks, it’s easier to uninstall and use Edge
But you can just change the default download location to /tmp on firefox. Or you can choose ask me every time and set /tmp as your favorites, than you can reach it with a single click.
I don’t know if this fits your use case
But it’s still a workaround, I have to save it and waiting for the save dialog to appear
It’s much easier to just have two buttons, “open” (save in tmp and open) and “save”
On windows, temp doesn’t get cleaned automatically at boot, but edge takes care of that and deletes the file when you close it
The ability to pick a temp folder to store your downloads is a feature, not a workaround, and every browser has it since forever™.
There’s absolutely no way in Elon Musk’s xHell or Linus Torvalds kmodHeaven that you choose Edge just because it saves you 2.7s every time you download pepelore compilations in 4k HDR AV1.
My use case is this: opening invoices from the ERM. The web app sends it as a download. I open one every 2 minutes. On edge I have an “open” button that does what it says. On chrome/Firefox/opera/Vivaldi it just downloads and at the end of the month I have the download folder littered with thousands of useless files. Or I need to set it for opening to a dialog for a path that might be preset to a temporary directory (that on windows still must be manually cleaned). The time saving in my use case is a lot and this setting is synced to all my machines, where the temp directory workaround is not and I have to set to each single machine
You’re on Linux, create a simple bash script that would execute
cd ~/Downloads && rm *.pdfand schedule it with cron. You spent more time writing these comments about the problem than solving it. I mean, of course, it’s up to you: you can talk about issues that you’re facing and use Edge if it satisfies you. I just find it a bit unusual, given that people often move to Linux because they don’t want to use Microsoft products.Edit: lemmy can’t deal with ampersands in the inline code block and I can’t deal with lemmy :D
Yes but it’s an hassle that can be avoided. The reason I stopped using chrome in 2008 was exactly this style of download. If Firefox has the same behavior of Chrome, then I don’t like it anymore
I have ten devices, I need to set this workaround on each of them. On edge the clearly labeled setting is automatically synced everywhere
I was explaining to someone in another thread that the only browser that works with the site I have to use for work is Chrome. I can’t help it if the Indian contractors made it Chrome-only somehow. I can’t use any other browser. Sometimes you’re stuck with the shitty option.
Contractually they can’t fire you for refusing to give up your human rights. Yes, privacy is a human right.
Yeah, okay, you get me a lawyer that will do that case pro-bono. I’m sure going to need it to be pro-bono since I won’t have a job.
So if I do, then what? What’s your next argument?
How about you do that first and we’ll cross the next bridge when we come to it. Good luck. I’m counting on you.
God you poor thing! Are you okay? You’ll get through this, don’t worry.
So your take is no one can have an opinion on anything. Got it
What’s infuriating about fucking rounded corners on a webpage? Mildly or otherwise.
Y’all need to learn some coping skills. Jesus.
What’s infuriating is the decision to do it, or that it even crossed someone’s mind, or that people like you just defend whatever bullshit gets fed to you
Yeah dude let’s BURN THIS SHIT DOWN
NO MORE ROUNDED CORNERS IN EDGE GOD DAMNIT THINK OF THE CHILDREN
Later chump
